This should get some interesting responses. If children are born saved, when did we loose our salvation and need to be saved again?
Are children born saved?
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I'm making popcorn.
But before I do, I'll just say, "No".
But before I do, I'll just say, "No".
First of all, where do you get the absurd notion that babies are born saved?
They aren't born saved, because if they were already saved, they wouldn't need to be born at all. Also, they can't be saved until an age of realization and acceptance of who Jesus is..
So the answer to your question is a big fat NOPE.. lol
They aren't born saved, because if they were already saved, they wouldn't need to be born at all. Also, they can't be saved until an age of realization and acceptance of who Jesus is..
So the answer to your question is a big fat NOPE.. lol
Some are indicated that they knew Christ from the womb. Therefore having the faith of Christ, as that needed to hear God .
Babies in the womb are unaware of anything. They can't hear, they can't see. They can't recognize anything...
Well some churches believe that all unbaptied babies will go to hell if they remain unbaptized. While others believe Gods Grace will save them if they should expire before the age of accountability. It's just a question, all or nothing. Which way is it. I lean towards grace but I want to hear from others of different points of view.
Sounds like a catholic practice/ belief to me. Babies are born innocent and sinless. It's not until they're exposed to this world and it's evilness, that they get corrupted and do bad things.. I would say that those who die in the womb, will return to heaven as an innocent soul who doesn't need saving..
I would say no, but that's just my own personal belief.. They're unborn, haven't done anything wrong. Why would they have the sins of A&E upon them? God punishes the wicked, not the innocent. Some may be conceived out of sin, such as rape or molestation of the mother. But that doesn't mean the BABY is evil or sinful..
Well they are the main perps. but they are not alone. I believe Lutherans, Anglicans and perhaps Episcopals believe in child baptisims also. For the forgiveness of natural inborn sins not yet commited.
Baptism doesn't save us. Getting dunked or sprinkled by water does NOTHING to ensure our salvation..
It is by our faith and belief and God's grace that we are saved..
It is by our faith and belief and God's grace that we are saved..
I didn't get saved by listening to sermons. I read the bible first. Since then I've heard a lot of what sounds like
to me. So I thought I'd just ask to see what others think about this contreversial subject on the BDF.
I think children are born SAFE under the blood and then when the realization of wrong and right is fully comprehended they die spiritually...PAUL alludes to this...
HE said...I was ALIVE once without the LAW, then sin revived and I DIED....<---he was alive when he wrote this and death only comes in two packages...he had to have died spiritually......
David also alludes to the safe position of a child that dies....His 1st born with Bathsheba died after one week of him on his face begging God to heal the child...when he perceived the child was dead by the actions of his servants he arose, cleaned himself and went and worshiped God....AFTER he said that HE WOULD GO TO THAT CHILD when he passed from this life....David was a saved man, speaks of his salvation in the present tense and he fully understood that when he died he would go and see his son....If his son was in hell and David is saved he could not have stated that and or it would not have made the scriptures......
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We know that everyone born on earth has the Adamic nature.
Proverbs 22:6
6 Train up a child in the way he should go,
[a]And when he is old he will not depart from it.
Parents have to start training in the way to go whenever they are able to start learning.
We become too familiar with words. Saved...saved from what? I hope everyone agrees from the punishment of sin. What sin could the baby have committed? If the baby hasn’t sinned, why should they be punished or saved from punishment?
I thought there might be a few more responses before someone took the bait. I'll wait for a few more before replying.