Religion Generates Evil

[Papou]

Is it possible that religion through an unknown process produce more evil than good. I am just saying that because of all the scandals that have recently come out especially sexual scandals. These are not a few people but large scale organized rapes! For example, it looks like every catholic priest is an abuser and all bishops approved that (may be even the pope). When I see that I am ashamed to be a christian. Why does something that is supposed to make us good, produce so much evil?

 

[Noose]

Dan 7: 8 While I was contemplating the horns,suddenly another horn, a little one, came up among them, and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like those of a man and a mouth that spoke words of arrogance.

Daniel 8:9
From one of these horns a little horn emerged and grew extensively toward the south and the east and toward the Beautiful Land.

 

[Dino246]

Is it possible that religion through an unknown process produce more evil than good. I am just saying that because of all the scandals that have recently come out especially sexual scandals. These are not a few people but large scale organized rapes! For example, it looks like every catholic priest is an abuser and all bishops approved that (may be even the pope). When I see that I am ashamed to be a christian. Why does something that is supposed to make us good, produce so much evil?

Religion, as in man's attempts to reach God, does a lot of evil. However, what you mention is not religion, but corruption. Religion had almost nothing to do with it, other than to provide a forum in which men could prey on children. Had the men actually followed the tenets of their alleged faith, there would have been no corruption.

 

[pjharrison]

Is it possible that religion through an unknown process produce more evil than good. I am just saying that because of all the scandals that have recently come out especially sexual scandals. These are not a few people but large scale organized rapes! For example, it looks like every catholic priest is an abuser and all bishops approved that (may be even the pope). When I see that I am ashamed to be a christian. Why does something that is supposed to make us good, produce so much evil?

We are in the last days, so what is in the darkness will come to the light.

 

[Noblemen]

Is it possible that religion through an unknown process produce more evil than good. I am just saying that because of all the scandals that have recently come out especially sexual scandals. These are not a few people but large scale organized rapes! For example, it looks like every catholic priest is an abuser and all bishops approved that (may be even the pope). When I see that I am ashamed to be a christian. Why does something that is supposed to make us good, produce so much evil?

Good thoughts, religion is derived from satan himself. What goes on in religion is a travesty and evil personified.
Those are outter things of the world, the inner deception of evil that leads people to never know anything for themselves is a travesty as well. There are no absulutes in religion only pageantry and deciet brought on by the evil one himself.
Sad fact is religion is alive and well and growing by leaps and bounds by the hungry looking for something to satisfy the longing in their heart. It could possibly be the greatest evil heaped upon mankind because of the lie it portrays as the answer and will leave its hearers with much less than what it can promise.
Vicious cycle that in many instances takes the Father Himself to bring the believer out of the situation.

 

[Noblemen]

Religion, as in man's attempts to reach God, does a lot of evil

A good way to put it!!!

 

[Adstar]

Is it possible that religion through an unknown process produce more evil than good. I am just saying that because of all the scandals that have recently come out especially sexual scandals. These are not a few people but large scale organized rapes! For example, it looks like every catholic priest is an abuser and all bishops approved that (may be even the pope). When I see that I am ashamed to be a christian. Why does something that is supposed to make us good, produce so much evil?

I as an ex-catholic do not feel ashamed when revelations of catholic priest pedo activity is exposed.. Because i do not recognize the catholic religion as being Christian...

There is,, what i believe to be,, a clear concept in the Bible that people who disbelieve God are given over by God to un-natural / deviant desires.. One can see it ( widespread gross sexual deviancy within a religion ) as a sign that that particular religion or interpretation it holds of the will of the God of Abraham is in rebellion against the actual Will of God..

The following NT passage i believe speaks of this phenomenon..

Romans 1: KJV
18"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; {19} Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. {20} For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: {21} Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. {22} Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, {23} And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. {24} Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: {25} Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. {26} For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: {27} And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

So i believe the above passage establishes the concept of people who through their vain traditions change the truth of God into a lie, being given over by God to abominable sexual desires that are vile in the eyes of God.. So the explosion of revelations of sexual deviancy in the catholic religion to me screams a clear warning that the doctrines of the catholic church have turned the truth of God into a lie for those who believe the catholic church is true to the Gospel of Jesus.. I believe current catholics should see this as a sign that their religion is on the wrong path and they should get out of that religion and seek God anew..

 

[garee]

Since there is no such thing as no religion. I would offer the religion that God accepts is hid in the parable below as having two meanings .The literal and the spiritual .

The spiritual, as we were all fatherless before we were born again and were all widows as those not married to Christ, His bride the church . Double honor as a privilege for a literally widowed Christian person.

James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

 

[epostle]

Is it possible that religion through an unknown process produce more evil than good. I am just saying that because of all the scandals that have recently come out especially sexual scandals. These are not a few people but large scale organized rapes! For example, it looks like every catholic priest is an abuser and all bishops approved that (may be even the pope). When I see that I am ashamed to be a christian. Why does something that is supposed to make us good, produce so much evil?

What is evil is a denial that the sex abuse crisis in the Catholic Church has ended.
What is evil is a denial that the sex abuse crisis in Protestantism has not ended, and blaming the Catholic Church over an accumulation of 40-70 year old scandals as a cover up for a Protestant problem they cannot resolve.
What is evil is a denial that the world and the media is at war with the Catholic Church, and to continue gathering wood for stake fires when there is almost no one to burn. This endless drum pounding over issues that have been resolved is just another form of persecution of a cultural nature.

"...large scale of organized rapes..."it looks like every catholic priest is an abuser and all bishops approved that (may be even the pope). "

In the light of the facts, this is hate speech.
What is evil is redefining "religion" into something sinister. It became a bad word by sheep stealing TV preachers in the '60's.
What is evil is when the legal system targets Catholicism, and ignores the overwhelming problem in public schools, where kids are raped daily and teachers are protected by their unions.
What is evil is when priests are sentenced to unrealistic prison terms based on no evidence.
This article was posted 2 days ago, it is not data going back to WWII:
PA GRAND JURY REPORT BASED ON ACCUSATIONS
If "Christian" hate cults spent as much of their resources on preaching the Gospel instead of unjustly bashing Catholicism, retaining members for them wouldn't be the problem that it is.

 

[DudleyDorite]

Since there is no such thing as no religion.

I don't know what you mean by that. Lots of people would disagree.

I would offer the religion that God accepts is hid in the parable below as having two meanings .The literal and the spiritual .

It's not a parable, it's a literal passage with a literal meaning.

The spiritual, as we were all fatherless before we were born again and were all widows as those not married to Christ, His bride the church.

It has nothing to do with that. Read the chapter. I've noticed that you make a lot of things up.

 

[Deade]

Any organization that gets big will have corruption in it. That is because of man's sinful nature. Any of these big organizations that put people in charge of our children are going to draw those that prey on them.

Churches and schools are places where we usually trust those that guide our children. Evil people will weasel their way into these trusted positions for access to the children.

 

[Dino246]

What is evil is a denial that the sex abuse crisis in Protestantism has not ended, and blaming the Catholic Church over an accumulation of 40-70 year old scandals as a cover up for a Protestant problem they cannot resolve.

What is evil is when the legal system targets Catholicism, and ignores the overwhelming problem in public schools, where kids are raped daily and teachers are protected by their unions.

"Let's not look at the horribly sinful things done by this group, because that group did something bad as well."

This is a tu quoque fallacy, making your points invalid.

Where the Catholic church (or its employees in the course of their work) is guilty of committing, condoning, or covering up heinous crimes, it is justly exposed, punished, and shamed. That has absolutely nothing to do with any acts allegedly committed by any other group, no matter how similar.

In the light of the facts, this is hate speech.

SJW whining. "Hate speech" is completely subjective and therefore meaningless.

 

[epostle]

OPEN CHALLENGE
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Papou, give me the name of your church, group, or bless-me-club and we can do a comparative correlative analysis of the approximate number of sex abuse scandals committed in the last 5 years. Doctrinal affiliated churches would be included. If you are unwilling to post the name of your church, then I am pleading with you to stop your sinful Catholic bashing.

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[epostle]

"Let's not look at the horribly sinful things done by this group, because that group did something bad as well."

This is a tu quoque fallacy, making your points invalid.

Where the Catholic church (or its employees in the course of their work) is guilty of committing, condoning, or covering up heinous crimes, it is justly exposed, punished, and shamed. That has absolutely nothing to do with any acts allegedly committed by any other group, no matter how similar.

I have nothing to hide, do you?

SJW whining. "Hate speech" is completely subjective and therefore meaningless.

That's an excuse that sanctions blind prejudice. Hate speech and blind prejudice are related.

 

[notuptome]

Is it possible that religion through an unknown process produce more evil than good. I am just saying that because of all the scandals that have recently come out especially sexual scandals. These are not a few people but large scale organized rapes! For example, it looks like every catholic priest is an abuser and all bishops approved that (may be even the pope). When I see that I am ashamed to be a christian. Why does something that is supposed to make us good, produce so much evil?

Roman Catholicism is not Christian. If you are a Roman catholic you should be ashamed but even more you should be concerned for your personal eternal security. The Roman catholic church cannot save. There is no rite or sacrament that can produce righteousness. Only by grace through faith can one be saved wholly apart from works.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[notuptome]

OPEN CHALLENGE
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Papou, give me the name of your church, group, or bless-me-club and we can do a comparative correlative analysis of the approximate number of sex abuse scandals committed in the last 5 years. Doctrinal affiliated churches would be included. If you are unwilling to post the name of your church, then I am pleading with you to stop your sinful Catholic bashing.

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The sex abuse scandals are just a symptom of a church organization that denies the gospel and teaches false works in place of grace. Rome's problem is that she has a form of religion but denies the power of the gospel of Christ. She serves with her mouth but denies all truth in her heart. She covers the sin of men with worthless works of atonement that only increase the burden on poor lost souls.

Anti-Catholicism is a duty of all who love the Lord Jesus. Truth over tradition. Thank you reformers for the courage to stand against the apostacy of Rome.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Ugly]

If "Christian" hate cults spent as much of their resources on preaching the Gospel instead of unjustly bashing Catholicism, retaining members for them wouldn't be the problem that it is.

If Catholics spent less time arguing on Protestant sites...

 

[Dino246]

OPEN CHALLENGE
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Papou, give me the name of your church, group, or bless-me-club and we can do a comparative correlative analysis of the approximate number of sex abuse scandals committed in the last 5 years. Doctrinal affiliated churches would be included. If you are unwilling to post the name of your church, then I am pleading with you to stop your sinful Catholic bashing.

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Irrelevant. Own the Catholic garbage first, and if you want to accuse others, do it in a separate context.

 

[Dino246]

I have nothing to hide, do you?


That's an excuse that sanctions blind prejudice. Hate speech and blind prejudice are related.

None is more blind than he who refuses to see his own sin.

Take the massive logjam out of your own eye.

 

[epostle]

For the second time, I have nothing to hide. Do you?
Instead of "hate speech", I will broaden the goal post. "hate crime" instead. It seems to me you are defending Papou's ridiculous exaggerations. Exposed poop attracts flies.

What we should be doing is petitioning all the prosecutors and the judges. Christians of all flavors are being hauled to court on charges of "hate crimes". We can tell them the charges are "completely subjective and therefore meaningless". The difference between being charged in court for being a Christian and attacks on Catholicism is profound, and so are the similarities.

Yes, I moved the goal post, but just one of them.

Those who attack with lies and falsehoods are scourging their own Body, and invincible ignorance keeps them from realizing it.