Does God love everyone

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Slayer

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#1
Psalm 11:5 puts it bluntly: God hates wicked people. “The LORD tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence” (Psalm 11:5). He hates wicked people from his soul, from the very depth of his being. God hates their ways (Proverbs 15:9), their thoughts

(Proverbs 15:26), their worship (Proverbs 15:8), their actions (Proverbs 6:18), and their evil deeds (Psalm 5:5). He singles out as a special object of his hatred the blasphemous deeds of the Nicolaitans, those who seduced God’s people with idolatry and sexual immorality. “Yet this you have: you hate the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate” (Revelation 2:6).

Clearly, God hates the thoughts, deeds, and desires of evil people. But further, in some way he hates the evil people themselves. His soul reacts to them with righteous revulsion as his arm extends toward them in holy fury. But who are the wicked? All of us.

We are all wicked, “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). “Just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned” (Romans 5:12).

God must judge the wicked for their rebellion. He must judge them for their evil thoughts, their evil deeds, and even their evil desires. And he will.
God is a righteous judge,
and a God who feels indignation every day.
If a man does not repent, God will whet his sword;
he has bent and readied his bow;
he has prepared for him his deadly weapons,
making his arrows fiery shafts.
Behold, the wicked man conceives evil
and is pregnant with mischief
and gives birth to lies.
He makes a pit, digging it out,
and falls into the hole that he has made.
His mischief returns upon his own head,
and on his own skull his violence descends. (Psalm 7:11-16)​
Said more tersely, “The LORD preserves all who love him, but all the wicked he will destroy” (Psalm 145:20). Psalm 1:5 promises, “the wicked will not stand in the judgment” (5). Indeed, in Luke 13 we find Jesus speaking of that final judgment.

He says that in that day some will expect to be welcomed by God into his kingdom, yet all they will hear is this terrifying judgment: “Depart from me, all you workers of evil” (Luke 13:27)! They will be consigned forever to a place where “there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (28).
God will judge the wicked and give them the fitting punishment for their wickedness.

  1. God hates the workers of iniquity (Psalm 5:5)
  2. God hates the wicked (Psalm 11:5)
  3. God hates the sacrifices of the wicked (Proverbs 15:8)
  4. God hates the ways of the wicked (Proverbs 15:9)
  5. God hates the thoughts of the wicked (Proverbs 15:26)
  6. God hates feet that make haste to run to evil (Proverbs 6:18)
  7. God hated Esau (Malachi 1:1-3; Romans 9:13)
  8. God hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans (Revelation 2:6)
I find it hard to believe that so many Christians think that God loves everyone unconditionally. The above Bible verses make it clear that He doesn't love everyone unconditionally. The prosperity preachers will never quote any of the above, they know that they would lose 90% of their congregation if they did.

Most Christians don't want to hear about all of Gods attributes, they are only interested in those which affirm them in their lives of sin. Those Churches which embrace everyone in their sin and affirm them in their immoral relationships are full, the Churches which preach the whole counsel of God are all but empty.
 

ForestGreenCook

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#2
Psalm 11:5 puts it bluntly: God hates wicked people. “The LORD tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence” (Psalm 11:5). He hates wicked people from his soul, from the very depth of his being. God hates their ways (Proverbs 15:9), their thoughts

(Proverbs 15:26), their worship (Proverbs 15:8), their actions (Proverbs 6:18), and their evil deeds (Psalm 5:5). He singles out as a special object of his hatred the blasphemous deeds of the Nicolaitans, those who seduced God’s people with idolatry and sexual immorality. “Yet this you have: you hate the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate” (Revelation 2:6).

Clearly, God hates the thoughts, deeds, and desires of evil people. But further, in some way he hates the evil people themselves. His soul reacts to them with righteous revulsion as his arm extends toward them in holy fury. But who are the wicked? All of us.

We are all wicked, “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). “Just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned” (Romans 5:12).

God must judge the wicked for their rebellion. He must judge them for their evil thoughts, their evil deeds, and even their evil desires. And he will.
God is a righteous judge,​
and a God who feels indignation every day.​
If a man does not repent, God will whet his sword;​
he has bent and readied his bow;​
he has prepared for him his deadly weapons,​
making his arrows fiery shafts.​
Behold, the wicked man conceives evil​
and is pregnant with mischief​
and gives birth to lies.​
He makes a pit, digging it out,​
and falls into the hole that he has made.​
His mischief returns upon his own head,​
and on his own skull his violence descends. (Psalm 7:11-16)​
Said more tersely, “The LORD preserves all who love him, but all the wicked he will destroy” (Psalm 145:20). Psalm 1:5 promises, “the wicked will not stand in the judgment” (5). Indeed, in Luke 13 we find Jesus speaking of that final judgment.

He says that in that day some will expect to be welcomed by God into his kingdom, yet all they will hear is this terrifying judgment: “Depart from me, all you workers of evil” (Luke 13:27)! They will be consigned forever to a place where “there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (28).
God will judge the wicked and give them the fitting punishment for their wickedness.

  1. God hates the workers of iniquity (Psalm 5:5)
  2. God hates the wicked (Psalm 11:5)
  3. God hates the sacrifices of the wicked (Proverbs 15:8)
  4. God hates the ways of the wicked (Proverbs 15:9)
  5. God hates the thoughts of the wicked (Proverbs 15:26)
  6. God hates feet that make haste to run to evil (Proverbs 6:18)
  7. God hated Esau (Malachi 1:1-3; Romans 9:13)
  8. God hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans (Revelation 2:6)
I find it hard to believe that so many Christians think that God loves everyone unconditionally. The above Bible verses make it clear that He doesn't love everyone unconditionally. The prosperity preachers will never quote any of the above, they know that they would lose 90% of their congregation if they did.

Most Christians don't want to hear about all of Gods attributes, they are only interested in those which affirm them in their lives of sin. Those Churches which embrace everyone in their sin and affirm them in their immoral relationships are full, the Churches which preach the whole counsel of God are all but empty.
I believe, a lot of times when the scriptures talk about the wicked, they have reference to the elect. When we have been born of the Spirit, we do still carry the baggage of our fleshly nature with us. Paul explains his struggle with that warfare within himself in Galatians. Those whom God loves, he chastens, I think Psalms 73 is a good example of God not loving some, especially in verse 5, when David says, "they are not plagued (divinely punished) as other men.". There are many other scriptures that say God does not love all mankind. God loves the elect sinner, but hates his sin, but the beauty of the finished work of Christ on the cross is, in God's eyes, we are made wholly and without blame.
 

Embankment

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#3
Psalm 11:5 puts it bluntly: God hates wicked people. “The LORD tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence” (Psalm 11:5). He hates wicked people from his soul, from the very depth of his being. God hates their ways (Proverbs 15:9), their thoughts

(Proverbs 15:26), their worship (Proverbs 15:8), their actions (Proverbs 6:18), and their evil deeds (Psalm 5:5). He singles out as a special object of his hatred the blasphemous deeds of the Nicolaitans, those who seduced God’s people with idolatry and sexual immorality. “Yet this you have: you hate the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate” (Revelation 2:6).

Clearly, God hates the thoughts, deeds, and desires of evil people. But further, in some way he hates the evil people themselves. His soul reacts to them with righteous revulsion as his arm extends toward them in holy fury. But who are the wicked? All of us.

We are all wicked, “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). “Just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned” (Romans 5:12).

God must judge the wicked for their rebellion. He must judge them for their evil thoughts, their evil deeds, and even their evil desires. And he will.
God is a righteous judge,​
and a God who feels indignation every day.​
If a man does not repent, God will whet his sword;​
he has bent and readied his bow;​
he has prepared for him his deadly weapons,​
making his arrows fiery shafts.​
Behold, the wicked man conceives evil​
and is pregnant with mischief​
and gives birth to lies.​
He makes a pit, digging it out,​
and falls into the hole that he has made.​
His mischief returns upon his own head,​
and on his own skull his violence descends. (Psalm 7:11-16)​
Said more tersely, “The LORD preserves all who love him, but all the wicked he will destroy” (Psalm 145:20). Psalm 1:5 promises, “the wicked will not stand in the judgment” (5). Indeed, in Luke 13 we find Jesus speaking of that final judgment.

He says that in that day some will expect to be welcomed by God into his kingdom, yet all they will hear is this terrifying judgment: “Depart from me, all you workers of evil” (Luke 13:27)! They will be consigned forever to a place where “there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (28).
God will judge the wicked and give them the fitting punishment for their wickedness.

  1. God hates the workers of iniquity (Psalm 5:5)
  2. God hates the wicked (Psalm 11:5)
  3. God hates the sacrifices of the wicked (Proverbs 15:8)
  4. God hates the ways of the wicked (Proverbs 15:9)
  5. God hates the thoughts of the wicked (Proverbs 15:26)
  6. God hates feet that make haste to run to evil (Proverbs 6:18)
  7. God hated Esau (Malachi 1:1-3; Romans 9:13)
  8. God hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans (Revelation 2:6)
I find it hard to believe that so many Christians think that God loves everyone unconditionally. The above Bible verses make it clear that He doesn't love everyone unconditionally. The prosperity preachers will never quote any of the above, they know that they would lose 90% of their congregation if they did.

Most Christians don't want to hear about all of Gods attributes, they are only interested in those which affirm them in their lives of sin. Those Churches which embrace everyone in their sin and affirm them in their immoral relationships are full, the Churches which preach the whole counsel of God are all but empty.
What a twisted knowledge of scripture.
I mean really......
 
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7seasrekeyed

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#4
oh here we go again

such a lopsided interpretation of scripture

if anyone knows the attributes of God they understand that hate is not one of them

murder is not one of them

vengeance is not one of them. vengeance belongs to God, but it is not His NATURE

THE NATURE OF GOD IS LOVE....'God is love'

7Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. 8Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. 9This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. 10This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. 11Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

13This is how we know that we live in him and he in us: He has given us of his Spirit. 14And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. 15If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God. 16And so we know and rely on the love God has for us.

God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them. 17This is how love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment: In this world we are like Jesus. 18There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.
I John 4

8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day isas a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. I Peter 3

the 'all' there is NOT only those He has decided should be saved but the all as in 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

God is not hate

God is not retribution

God is not punishment

God is not happy about anyone refusing His 'get out of hell' plan. that is why He is longsuffering and not willing that ANY should perish.

God is holy and cannot have sin in His presence...He says that about it...but does not kill us all...he flooded the earth once but redeemed the family of a man He found to be righteous in His sight (notice no sacrifice or anything else...righteous as per Abraham as in obedience, faith etc...all pointing to the final sacrifice Jesus who was obedient to the end and kept faith that God would redeem Him and resurrect Him)

what God does, He does from His perfect love and His perfect sinless being. which is why we cannot assume we understand that God will destroy the wicked because he hates them

He hates them in the sense He desires they be saved but the devil has them

God hates wickedness but He does not enjoy killing

there should be a balanced and comprehensive understanding of the nature of God before people imagine they are chosen to stand beside the angels and push people into eternal condemnation

can we say that if we desire to do such a thing we do so from love as does God?

I know that we cannot because I know a little of human nature...both with and without God
 

NayborBear

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
#5
oh here we go again

such a lopsided interpretation of scripture

if anyone knows the attributes of God they understand that hate is not one of them

murder is not one of them

vengeance is not one of them. vengeance belongs to God, but it is not His NATURE

THE NATURE OF GOD IS LOVE....'God is love'

7Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. 8Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. 9This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. 10This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. 11Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

13This is how we know that we live in him and he in us: He has given us of his Spirit. 14And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. 15If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God. 16And so we know and rely on the love God has for us.

God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them. 17This is how love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment: In this world we are like Jesus. 18There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.
I John 4

8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day isas a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. I Peter 3

the 'all' there is NOT only those He has decided should be saved but the all as in 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

God is not hate

God is not retribution

God is not punishment

God is not happy about anyone refusing His 'get out of hell' plan. that is why He is longsuffering and not willing that ANY should perish.

God is holy and cannot have sin in His presence...He says that about it...but does not kill us all...he flooded the earth once but redeemed the family of a man He found to be righteous in His sight (notice no sacrifice or anything else...righteous as per Abraham as in obedience, faith etc...all pointing to the final sacrifice Jesus who was obedient to the end and kept faith that God would redeem Him and resurrect Him)

what God does, He does from His perfect love and His perfect sinless being. which is why we cannot assume we understand that God will destroy the wicked because he hates them

He hates them in the sense He desires they be saved but the devil has them

God hates wickedness but He does not enjoy killing

there should be a balanced and comprehensive understanding of the nature of God before people imagine they are chosen to stand beside the angels and push people into eternal condemnation

can we say that if we desire to do such a thing we do so from love as does God?

I know that we cannot because I know a little of human nature...both with and without God

You said it! It's not "God's WILL" that any should perish!

But, hatred? Is CERTAINLY "in" God's nature!
 

NayborBear

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
#6
Psalm 11:5 puts it bluntly: God hates wicked people. “The LORD tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence” (Psalm 11:5). He hates wicked people from his soul, from the very depth of his being. God hates their ways (Proverbs 15:9), their thoughts

(Proverbs 15:26), their worship (Proverbs 15:8), their actions (Proverbs 6:18), and their evil deeds (Psalm 5:5). He singles out as a special object of his hatred the blasphemous deeds of the Nicolaitans, those who seduced God’s people with idolatry and sexual immorality. “Yet this you have: you hate the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate” (Revelation 2:6).

Clearly, God hates the thoughts, deeds, and desires of evil people. But further, in some way he hates the evil people themselves. His soul reacts to them with righteous revulsion as his arm extends toward them in holy fury. But who are the wicked? All of us.

We are all wicked, “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). “Just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned” (Romans 5:12).

God must judge the wicked for their rebellion. He must judge them for their evil thoughts, their evil deeds, and even their evil desires. And he will.
God is a righteous judge,​
and a God who feels indignation every day.​
If a man does not repent, God will whet his sword;​
he has bent and readied his bow;​
he has prepared for him his deadly weapons,​
making his arrows fiery shafts.​
Behold, the wicked man conceives evil​
and is pregnant with mischief​
and gives birth to lies.​
He makes a pit, digging it out,​
and falls into the hole that he has made.​
His mischief returns upon his own head,​
and on his own skull his violence descends. (Psalm 7:11-16)​
Said more tersely, “The LORD preserves all who love him, but all the wicked he will destroy” (Psalm 145:20). Psalm 1:5 promises, “the wicked will not stand in the judgment” (5). Indeed, in Luke 13 we find Jesus speaking of that final judgment.

He says that in that day some will expect to be welcomed by God into his kingdom, yet all they will hear is this terrifying judgment: “Depart from me, all you workers of evil” (Luke 13:27)! They will be consigned forever to a place where “there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (28).
God will judge the wicked and give them the fitting punishment for their wickedness.

  1. God hates the workers of iniquity (Psalm 5:5)
  2. God hates the wicked (Psalm 11:5)
  3. God hates the sacrifices of the wicked (Proverbs 15:8)
  4. God hates the ways of the wicked (Proverbs 15:9)
  5. God hates the thoughts of the wicked (Proverbs 15:26)
  6. God hates feet that make haste to run to evil (Proverbs 6:18)
  7. God hated Esau (Malachi 1:1-3; Romans 9:13)
  8. God hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans (Revelation 2:6)
I find it hard to believe that so many Christians think that God loves everyone unconditionally. The above Bible verses make it clear that He doesn't love everyone unconditionally. The prosperity preachers will never quote any of the above, they know that they would lose 90% of their congregation if they did.

Most Christians don't want to hear about all of Gods attributes, they are only interested in those which affirm them in their lives of sin. Those Churches which embrace everyone in their sin and affirm them in their immoral relationships are full, the Churches which preach the whole counsel of God are all but empty.

Yeah? There's a lotta misguided sheeps, being fleeced, out of the wool on their backs! Whilst they are "ordered" to not remove the "wool over their eyes."

2 Thessalonians 2:11

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:


Isaiah 66:4

I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.


I dunno? If that AIN'T "Hate?" Must be a pretty close relative, then! ;)
 
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7seasrekeyed

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You said it! It's not "God's WILL" that any should perish!

But, hatred? Is CERTAINLY "in" God's nature!

no

you may not be aware, but the attributes of God, found in scripture, most certainly DO NOT include hatred

love is included and as I already said, from scripture, with reference...GOD IS LOVE

His attributes are WHO He is and each one is holy as He is holy

this is not a subject that many seem to either study and some not even aware of this topic

I did not make it up...you can find plenty of material in books ... songs have been written...and the Bible is revealing

God is not hate but He is holy in what He hates...in other words, His hatred his holy...not like us..you know? the neighbor keeps cutting half our lawn out front and we argue and we end up 'hating' him (not true but just an example...we'd be happy if the neighbor cut the lawn LOL!...it grows so fast)

God is also Omniscient, Omnipresent, Eternal, Infinite, Immutable, Self-Sufficient and so on (there's more)

God, is not hate filled nor does He desire any should perish...that would be His desire if He was hate filled
 
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7seasrekeyed

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#9
Is it possible that God hates me?

In Malachi 1:2-3 the Bible says that God "loved Jacob but hated Esau." This really upsets me. For one thing, if God hated Esau, how do I know He doesn't hate me? For another thing, if God is Love, as the New Testament says in I John 4:8, how can He "hate" anybody or anything? Can you help me understand?

When the Scripture says, "'Was not Esau Jacob's brother?' says the Lord. 'Yet Jacob I have loved; but Esau I have hated'" (Malachi 1:2, 3), it is not necessarily teaching us that God "hates" anybody. This is an instance of what we sometimes refer to as hyperbole. Hyperbole is exaggerated language which is used to make a very strong and specific rhetorical point. Another example is found in Luke 14:26: "If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple." Christ is not telling us here that we must literally "hate" our parents. That should be obvious. Instead, He is saying that our love for Him must be so overpowering and all-consuming that, in comparison with it, our love for our families almost looks like "hate."

But let's get back to Jacob and Esau. The point of Malachi 1:2, 3 seems to be that the Lord "preferred" Jacob and his descendants and "rejected" his brother Esau and his offspring. Why did He do this? He alone knows. The apostle Paul refers to this passage as an example of divine electing love (Romans 9:13). Election, of course, is a profound and highly controversial theological subject. Different Christian denominations understand it in a variety of ways
 

trofimus

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#10
Psalm 11:5 puts it bluntly: God hates wicked people. “The LORD tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence” (Psalm 11:5). He hates wicked people from his soul, from the very depth of his being. God hates their ways (Proverbs 15:9), their thoughts
I do not know if you know it, but most English Bible translations use medieval masoretic Jewish text for th OT, not the one used by apostles.

Psalm 10:5:
"The Lord tries the righteous and the ungodly: and he that loves unrighteousness hates his own soul."
- nothing about God hating wicked people
 

1ofthem

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#11
God is love, but he is also a consuming fire.....He gives everyone a chance to choose him and his ways, but it's up to us whether we will choose good or evil...He don't make the choice for us....So choose you this day whom you will serve. :)
 
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Papou

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#12
The Scripture is clear that God does not take any pleasure in the death of the wicked. In fact, the Scripture says that He is pleased when they turn from their ways and live. If he didn't love them he wouldn't rejoice when they turn away from their wicked ways. Jesus said the same things in his parables. Hence God love everybody even if they are bad people.
 
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pjharrison

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#13
Psalm 11:5 puts it bluntly: God hates wicked people. “The LORD tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence” (Psalm 11:5). He hates wicked people from his soul, from the very depth of his being. God hates their ways (Proverbs 15:9), their thoughts

(Proverbs 15:26), their worship (Proverbs 15:8), their actions (Proverbs 6:18), and their evil deeds (Psalm 5:5). He singles out as a special object of his hatred the blasphemous deeds of the Nicolaitans, those who seduced God’s people with idolatry and sexual immorality. “Yet this you have: you hate the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate” (Revelation 2:6).

Clearly, God hates the thoughts, deeds, and desires of evil people. But further, in some way he hates the evil people themselves. His soul reacts to them with righteous revulsion as his arm extends toward them in holy fury. But who are the wicked? All of us.

We are all wicked, “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). “Just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned” (Romans 5:12).

God must judge the wicked for their rebellion. He must judge them for their evil thoughts, their evil deeds, and even their evil desires. And he will.
God is a righteous judge,​
and a God who feels indignation every day.​
If a man does not repent, God will whet his sword;​
he has bent and readied his bow;​
he has prepared for him his deadly weapons,​
making his arrows fiery shafts.​
Behold, the wicked man conceives evil​
and is pregnant with mischief​
and gives birth to lies.​
He makes a pit, digging it out,​
and falls into the hole that he has made.​
His mischief returns upon his own head,​
and on his own skull his violence descends. (Psalm 7:11-16)​
Said more tersely, “The LORD preserves all who love him, but all the wicked he will destroy” (Psalm 145:20). Psalm 1:5 promises, “the wicked will not stand in the judgment” (5). Indeed, in Luke 13 we find Jesus speaking of that final judgment.

He says that in that day some will expect to be welcomed by God into his kingdom, yet all they will hear is this terrifying judgment: “Depart from me, all you workers of evil” (Luke 13:27)! They will be consigned forever to a place where “there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (28).
God will judge the wicked and give them the fitting punishment for their wickedness.

  1. God hates the workers of iniquity (Psalm 5:5)
  2. God hates the wicked (Psalm 11:5)
  3. God hates the sacrifices of the wicked (Proverbs 15:8)
  4. God hates the ways of the wicked (Proverbs 15:9)
  5. God hates the thoughts of the wicked (Proverbs 15:26)
  6. God hates feet that make haste to run to evil (Proverbs 6:18)
  7. God hated Esau (Malachi 1:1-3; Romans 9:13)
  8. God hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans (Revelation 2:6)
I find it hard to believe that so many Christians think that God loves everyone unconditionally. The above Bible verses make it clear that He doesn't love everyone unconditionally. The prosperity preachers will never quote any of the above, they know that they would lose 90% of their congregation if they did.

Most Christians don't want to hear about all of Gods attributes, they are only interested in those which affirm them in their lives of sin. Those Churches which embrace everyone in their sin and affirm them in their immoral relationships are full, the Churches which preach the whole counsel of God are all but empty.
If you fear God that is the beginning of wisdom.
proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction
Speaking of the verses above, that is why he have to die to our old self. Our ways and our worship, it's filthiness to him. Then live by the spirit not the flesh. When you fear God it will keep you from intentionally sin. Grace covers the bad thoughts, because sometimes that is out of our control.
 

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If you fear God that is the beginning of wisdom.
proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction
Speaking of the verses above, that is why he have to die to our old self. Our ways and our worship, it's filthiness to him. Then live by the spirit not the flesh. When you fear God it will keep you from intentionally sin. Grace covers the bad thoughts, because sometimes that is out of our control.
Yes, I agree and in another place it even says that the fear of the Lord is wisdom, and if we have wisdom then we show our understanding by departing from evil.
Job 28:28
And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.
 
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Yes, I agree and in another place it even says that the fear of the Lord is wisdom, and if we have wisdom then we show our understanding by departing from evil.
Job 28:28
And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.
Sorry I made some mistakes in my spelling before. I meant we have to die and be born again, no longer living by the flesh but by the spirit. If we fear God it will keep us from sinning. Exodus 20:20 Moses said to the people, "Do not be afraid. God has come to test you, so that the fear of God will be with you to keep you from sinning.
Psalm 111:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding. To him belongs eternal praise.
 

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Yeah? There's a lotta misguided sheeps, being fleeced, out of the wool on their backs! Whilst they are "ordered" to not remove the "wool over their eyes."

2 Thessalonians 2:11

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:


Isaiah 66:4

I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.


I dunno? If that AIN'T "Hate?" Must be a pretty close relative, then! ;)
Us sheep will never be deceived, self appointed wise goats who think they know the truth will always be deceived. Satan uses their pride and self importance to lure them straight into the pits of hell, while us dumb sheep follow Christ straight into paradise.

I detect a lot of goats here who profess to be wise but they are utter fools, they know everything about nothing.
 

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Sorry I made some mistakes in my spelling before. I meant we have to die and be born again, no longer living by the flesh but by the spirit. If we fear God it will keep us from sinning. Exodus 20:20 Moses said to the people, "Do not be afraid. God has come to test you, so that the fear of God will be with you to keep you from sinning.
Psalm 111:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding. To him belongs eternal praise.
Good post and thanks for those scriptures, I hadn't really noticed the one in Exodus before.
 

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Us sheep will never be deceived, self appointed wise goats who think they know the truth will always be deceived. Satan uses their pride and self importance to lure them straight into the pits of hell, while us dumb sheep follow Christ straight into paradise.

I detect a lot of goats here who profess to be wise but they are utter fools, they know everything about nothing.
It's a two edge sword, sir and it can cut both ways...Just saying

Let's just hope that were all following the Lord with our whole hearts. God looks at the heart and he is the judge.