If satan was locked away how could he be prince of the air. The world is his kingdom as well as the second heaven.
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If satan was locked away how could he be prince of the air. The world is his kingdom as well as the second heaven.
Eph 6: 10 -12Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.There WAS before lucifer and his angels were cast out.
John 18:36 36Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place." Eph:2:2, 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:Support just that with scripture
You said the one above us is the 3td heaven where God dwells ..so again..wheres the 1st heaven?
Still doesnt imply theyre in a "heaven"..satan can be all around...EXCEPT in heaven in the presence of GodJohn 18:36 36Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place." Eph:2:2, 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Do you believe there are 3 heavens, what's in the 2cd heaven?Is THIS what youre refering to?
"This mighty angelic being was rightfully judged by God: “I threw you to the earth” (Ezekiel 28:18). This doesn’t to mean that Satan had no further access to heaven, for other Scripture verses clearly indicate that Satan maintained this access even after his fall (Job 1:6-12; Zechariah 3:1,2). However, Ezekiel 28:18 indicates that Satan was absolutely and completely cast out of God’s heavenly government and his place of authority (Luke 10:18)."
Talking about Satan..
No, they where kicked out of the third, into the second. They are the evil in the heavenly realms.
.Do you believe there are 3 heavens, what's in the 2cd heaven?
You don't seem to believe the scriptures.Still doesnt imply theyre in a "heaven"..satan can be all around...EXCEPT in heaven in the presence of God
Ok but again the word heaven itself contradicts your theory, heaven is a place of safety and comfort which is why ut's derived from the word haven, now what part of a demonic realm in the second heaven sounds like a safe and peaceful place?No, they where kicked out of the third, into the second. They are the evil in the heavenly realms.
You don't seem to believe the scriptures.
Eph 6: 10 -12Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.Ok but again the word heaven itself contradicts your theory, heaven is a place of safety and comfort which is why ut's derived from the word haven, now what part of a demonic realm in the second heaven sounds like a safe and peaceful place?
2 Cor:12:2, 2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knowethDid you read my post? I posted several scriptures as well..its YOUR understanding of the scriptures that DIFFER from mine..not that i dont BELIEVE the scriptures. I dont believe YOUR INTERPRETATION of the scriptures..difference.
Ok but where does it say it's the second heaven then?Eph 6: 10 -12Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Eph 6: 10 -12Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
You don't seem to believe the scriptures.
If we know there is a third, there must be a second and a first. The first is the sky. So the second is in between.Ok but where does it say it's the second heaven then?
If Paul went to the third, then we know there is a second and a first.Heavenly..NOT HEAVEN where God resides..heavenly..birds..clouds..stars..but NOT with God..
Well how do you explain evil in the heavenly realms. And what's in the second?That's quite unnecessary.
She, and I, just don't accept your interpretation of the Scriptures. There is a massive difference.