Did other people inhabit the earth before we did?

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Chester

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Since you came on here to tell me how foolish this thread is, why don't you start an interesting one.
LOL! Do you always talk to yourself? I guess this was early in the morning!
 
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pjharrison

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No I was answering someone
 
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LPT

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hmm the title is a little misleading, I've always thought people were people is there more types of people?
 
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pjharrison

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hmm the title is a little misleading, I've always thought people were people is there more types of people?
In other words were there people before Adam and eve.
 

rlm68

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rlm68

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I think you use the term "bacteria" in some strange and wrong way. Sometimes you use it for DNA, sometimes you use it for something else. But almost every time you use it, it does not fit with what bacterias really are.

Maybe you should use more appropriate terms to be better understood.


It's probably due to I know what I am talking about:

Scientists Discover That Bacteria Have a Collective Memory ...
https://wakeup-world.com/2016/04/17/scientists-discover-that...
Individual bacterial cells have short memories. But groups of bacteria can develop a collective memory that can increase their tolerance to stress. This has been demonstrated experimentally for the first time in a study by Eawag and ETH Zurich scientists published in PNAS.
 

rlm68

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Jerimiah was a prophet: this all came from Jerimiah prophesying Jerimiah 1:1-7
1 The words of Jeremiah the son of Hilkiah, of the priests that were in Anathoth in the land of Benjamin:
2 To whom the word of the Lord came in the days of Josiah the son of Amon king of Judah, in the thirteenth year of his reign.
3 It came also in the days of Jehoiakim the son of Josiah king of Judah, unto the end of the eleventh year of Zedekiah the son of Josiah king of Judah, unto the carrying away of Jerusalem captive in the fifth month.
4 Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
6 Then said I, Ah, Lord God! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child.
7 But the Lord said unto me, Say not, I am a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak.


I did refer Jeremiah as Yahweh's prophet.

But nonetheless, chapter 4 verses 23-27 are not prophesy.
It is a clarification of what God has done before to humanity, in order to further warn the Hebrews from the firsts few verses of chapter 4.
 

tanakh

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One has to admit, that "every" "Church" organization, whether it be 1 building, or, a "series" of buldings, have a "bottom line!" MONEY!!!

Selective amnesia, is just a "by product", because you can "draw more flies with sugar, then you can with vinegar!" By "Selective MAGNIFICATION!" By magnifying "feel good" messages? The "Churches" coffers, statistically run at higher levels, then when a pastor, or shepherd actually TRY'S to teach!

Which, over time? Is a HUGE DETRIMENT, to the "Children of the Kingdom!"


(I could go on, and on, but, this thread, as you can see, has gone terribly "off the rails", here!)

Does this thread do the "Gospel Message" any good? Depends on how "deep" one wants one's Spiritual Roots, to develop and grow! Depends on if you want to "love your life, even unto death", or not! Because one cannot survive this "spiritual warfare" we wage, on "stony grounded faith!"
No doubt money is a factor but I have no objection to feel good messages. After all who wants to go to Church to feel miserable!
What I object to is the distortion of the truth. Imagine surgeons who having spent several years at medical school decide to
ignore what they have learned and stick to first aid procedures in case they upset their patients. The term 'Snowflake' comes to my mind for those who remain in cocooned in their set of beliefs and are frightened by anything that challenges them. We are all at various stages in our spiritual journey but like any journey we need to leave home in order to embark on it.
 

rlm68

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No danger of humility here...

Having knowledge does not need to be a sign of humbleness. This is a discussion, not a place for examples in how to act!!
 

rlm68

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Morning star does not refer to the adversary, I agree with John Calvin and many others on this.

Job refers the morning stars (sons of God) to angels.
And the Adversary was once an angel of light.
So whether Calvin agrees or disagrees, Job's word outranks Calvin's any day!!

Obviously in Isaiah, this reference to morning star is a clarification that the Adversary was once an angel of God, who then exalted himself above God.
 

jimd

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Job refers the morning stars (sons of God) to angels.
And the Adversary was once an angel of light.
So whether Calvin agrees or disagrees, Job's word outranks Calvin's any day!!

Obviously in Isaiah, this reference to morning star is a clarification that the Adversary was once an angel of God, who then exalted himself above God.
John Gill, Job 38:7: When the morning stars sang together, &c.] Either all the stars in a literal sense; for though, strictly speaking, there is but one morning star, yet all may be called so, because early created in the morning of the world; and are all stars of light, shine till the morning; and it is observed by some, that the nearer the morning the brighter they shine: and these in their way sing the praises of God, and set forth the glory of his perfections, and occasion songs of praise in men; see #Ps 148:3 19:1. Or figuratively, either angels, as most interpret them, comparable to stars for their glory, purity, and light, for their constancy, permanency, and numbers: or good men, particularly ministers of the word, and angels of the churches; who are stars in Christ’s right hand, #Re 1:20 2:1; but the principal morning star is Christ himself, #Re 22:16;
 

trofimus

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It's probably due to I know what I am talking about:

Scientists Discover That Bacteria Have a Collective Memory ...
https://wakeup-world.com/2016/04/17/scientists-discover-that...
Individual bacterial cells have short memories. But groups of bacteria can develop a collective memory that can increase their tolerance to stress. This has been demonstrated experimentally for the first time in a study by Eawag and ETH Zurich scientists published in PNAS.
Well, even if I will ignore the website it is on, still, you use it in a very broad way that does not correspond with what bacteria is.
 

jimd

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Job refers the morning stars (sons of God) to angels.
And the Adversary was once an angel of light.
So whether Calvin agrees or disagrees, Job's word outranks Calvin's any day!!

Obviously in Isaiah, this reference to morning star is a clarification that the Adversary was once an angel of God, who then exalted himself above God.
Men of the flesh are the only ones who have tried to exhault themselves above God, beginning with Adam and Eve. Any heavenly being would know better.
 

jimd

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Job refers the morning stars (sons of God) to angels.
And the Adversary was once an angel of light.
So whether Calvin agrees or disagrees, Job's word outranks Calvin's any day!!

Obviously in Isaiah, this reference to morning star is a clarification that the Adversary was once an angel of God, who then exalted himself above God.
Yes sons of God and light are messengers (angels).
A morning star that fell from heaven may also be a reference to Adam who was meant to be a messenger (angel) of God and after the fall we can see he was as he taught his children to worship God.
 
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Of course we are more. We have more cells than we have bacteria.
It does not matter what we have more of, the building blocks of the human body are hydrogen, oxygen, carbon and nitrogen along with either minerals, point being dust refers to the elements.:)
 
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Job refers the morning stars (sons of God) to angels.
And the Adversary was once an angel of light.
So whether Calvin agrees or disagrees, Job's word outranks Calvin's any day!!

Obviously in Isaiah, this reference to morning star is a clarification that the Adversary was once an angel of God, who then exalted himself above God.
It is obviously not and if you knew History and read in context it is a reference to the king of Bablyon.

It was Jerome (383 - 405 AD) in the Catholic Church, who thought the word "heleL" described the planet Venus, "the light bearer" or "morning star". The KJV translators borrowed the term from the Latin Vulgate "light-bearing" only later was the suggestion made it was synonomous with Satan and the concept of Lucifer as light bearer was created.

The Bablynonian King was to die and be buried, this does not apply to Satan.

Therefore, the overthrow of the self-exalting Babylonian King was likened to the falling of a morning star.
 
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Job refers the morning stars (sons of God) to angels.
And the Adversary was once an angel of light.
So whether Calvin agrees or disagrees, Job's word outranks Calvin's any day!!

Obviously in Isaiah, this reference to morning star is a clarification that the Adversary was once an angel of God, who then exalted himself above God.
The statement in Job is not connected to Isaiah, Job is figurative language and a reference to angels and their qualities.

Venus (morning star) in Greek mythology is known as the "bringer of light" which then puts Lucifer/Venus on the same level as Christ (where Christ is referred to as the morning star) which the Luciferians believe is true.

Do we follow Greek mythology or the scripture?
 

NayborBear

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No doubt money is a factor but I have no objection to feel good messages. After all who wants to go to Church to feel miserable!
What I object to is the distortion of the truth. Imagine surgeons who having spent several years at medical school decide to
ignore what they have learned and stick to first aid procedures in case they upset their patients. The term 'Snowflake' comes to my mind for those who remain in cocooned in their set of beliefs and are frightened by anything that challenges them. We are all at various stages in our spiritual journey but like any journey we need to leave home in order to embark on it.

What "truth" would you say is being "distorted?"

Not that I disagree, cuz, I don't! Just asking what truth is being distorted?