Where Did Cain find his two wives

[Zmouth]

Have you considered seeing someone about talking to yourself.

Yes I have, but when the Doctor said I would have to pay double to be seen for talking to myself I asked him if he thought I was crazy.

 

[posthuman]

if I may bring to your attention Cain is not Adam's seed

if we may bring Genesis 4:1 to your attention...

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord. ​

 

[posthuman]

Cain was not Adams offspring

*ahem*

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.
(Genesis 4:1)​

 

[Enocish]

Qualification for apostle's
Act 1:22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.
Act 1:22 Starting with the baptism of John, (This was John the Baptist,) when did John baptize Christ? Before he died on the cross.

Next part

Until that very day that Christ ascended into heaven. while the disciple's watched. This was the completed resurrection and This was after the crucifixion. There was a process that had to be completed, Now I stand corrected I did say the crucifixion. But scripture says resurrection. now see what I mean to study to show thy self-approved, Cause I messed that one up.

Next part

One must have done to be ordained as a witness apostle.

The disciples may not have stood around and watched the whole thing. But they have seen enough of it to be part of the process. And Mathias had to have been there also cause he replaced Judas as one of the apostles.

 

[posthuman]

Have you considered seeing someone about talking to yourself.

how about a mirror?

 

[posthuman]

Yes I have, but when the Doctor said I would have to pay double to be seen for talking to myself I asked him if he thought I was crazy.

perhaps if you could get your own PHD it would sort out the financing

 

[posthuman]

After all, if someone wasn't able to teach themself how to read then how educated could their guesses really be?

that's a good point

oughtn't it depend on how educated their educator was, who taught them to read - how much they educated the educatee?
if one even was taught to read and to guess by the same teacher. some people learn to read from one, and then to guess from another, and their guessing sometimes over-rules their reading, so they forget their first teacher.

first the eye has to be created, and then opened, and then made to see. still, also there is such things as braille - which also needs to be taught. not sure if to touch and feel comes naturally, but i know it doesn't appear in dead things, but only living ones, and that life also has to be given; it doesn't arise of itself out of dead matter.

 

[posthuman]

Qualification for apostle's
Act 1:22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.
Act 1:22 Starting with the baptism of John, (This was John the Baptist,) when did John baptize Christ? Before he died on the cross.

Next part

Until that very day that Christ ascended into heaven. while the disciple's watched. This was the completed resurrection and This was after the crucifixion. There was a process that had to be completed, Now I stand corrected I did say the crucifixion. But scripture says resurrection. now see what I mean to study to show thy self-approved, Cause I messed that one up.

Next part

One must have done to be ordained as a witness apostle.

The disciples may not have stood around and watched the whole thing. But they have seen enough of it to be part of the process. And Mathias had to have been there also cause he replaced Judas as one of the apostles.

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For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that He appeared to Cephas, and then to the twelve. After that, He appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles, and last of all He appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.​

(1 Corinthians 15:3-8)​

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having witnessed His resurrection doesn't mean having been at the tomb as He rose up.
interesting that Paul says "last of all" ain't it?


"abnormally born"

 

[posthuman]

1. The word of the LORD is forever settled in heaven. So if you are going to say that two siblings of the same biological parent would be acceptable to the LORD then, then it would be acceptable in the eyes of the LORD today.

one reason that i think this isn't the right way to comprehend the saying is that Adam was given only the seed-bearing plant to eat, then Noah was given all flesh that moves on the earth for food, then Israel was given a covenant allowing only clean foods, then with the advent of Messiah all foods received with thankfulness to God were declared clean.
if every command He gives is eternally for all people, then Levi ought still to be priest, and sacrifices of sheep and bulls ought still to be made. His words don't pass away, but heaven and earth do. in heaven there is no marrying and giving in marriage among men, but one Bridegroom and one Bride

 

[posthuman]

However, if one is going to attempt to unseal the book themselves then they have to remember what is written in Isaiah 28:10, For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: which some might not understand the meaning of the sealed book which can be found in Isaiah 29.

it came to my attention that in Isaiah 28 the 'precept upon precept, line upon line' saying, which is so often quoted, is said to have a specific purpose:

Whom shall He teach knowledge? And whom shall He make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.​

For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:​

For with stammering lips and another tongue will He speak to this people, to whom He said, this is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.​

But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.​

(Isaiah 28:9-13) ​

precept upon precept, because He will speak to that people with another tongue.
line upon line, in order that they fall backwards, be broken, snared and taken captive.

it doesn't seem to me in the context that 'precept upon precept, line upon line, here a little, and there a little' is a favorable thing.
it's a judgement.
it's because He told them of His Rest, but they would not hear it, nor give it to the weary.

i rather think we as humans tend to abuse that passage and treat it like it's something it really isn't -- and you may notice that verse 13 is very rarely quoted in full: people like to say 'precept on precept' to justify adding things one to another, but they don't like what the Bible says that situation is meant to result in, or to recognize the reason that situation came about.

 

[Zmouth]

Qualification for apostle's
Act 1:22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.
Act 1:22 Starting with the baptism of John, (This was John the Baptist,) when did John baptize Christ? Before he died on the cross.

Next part

Until that very day that Christ ascended into heaven. while the disciple's watched. This was the completed resurrection and This was after the crucifixion. There was a process that had to be completed, Now I stand corrected I did say the crucifixion. But scripture says resurrection. now see what I mean to study to show thy self-approved, Cause I messed that one up.

Next part

One must have done to be ordained as a witness apostle.

The disciples may not have stood around and watched the whole thing. But they have seen enough of it to be part of the process. And Mathias had to have been there also cause he replaced Judas as one of the apostles.

Humm. so starting at the baptism?

Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Rom 6:3

Didn't you mean How many Apostles witnessed Jesus baptism?

15 ....Then he suffered him.
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Matt 3:15-16

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: Rev 20:6

You forgot about seeing Christ walking on water, cause if one didn't see Christ at the resurrection neither did they see Christ moving on the waters since faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God unseen, who is the image of the invisible God.

 

[Zmouth]

one reason that i think this isn't the right way to comprehend the saying is that Adam was given only the seed-bearing plant to eat, then Noah was given all flesh that moves on the earth for food, then Israel was given a covenant allowing only clean foods, then with the advent of Messiah all foods received with thankfulness to God were declared clean.

Are you sure it is written seed-bearing plant to eat? Since almost all plants produce seed then are you saying that they could they eat the plant and the seed or just the plant? Wouldn't eating most plants kill them since man can not digest the cellulose grass and plant material?

"Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,..." Likewise, man was given every tree, it doesn't say every fruit tree, but every tree in the which is the seed of tree bearing tree, i.e. nuts; they shall be meat for you.
Gen 1:29

if every command He gives is eternally for all people, then Levi ought still to be priest, and sacrifices of sheep and bulls ought still to be made. His words don't pass away, but heaven and earth do. in heaven there is no marrying and giving in marriage among men, but one Bridegroom and one Bride

A principle lasts from everlasting to everlasting, being the evidence of faith that comes by hearing the unseen word of God. And as written, For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven. [Psalms 119:89]

Thus as it is written in Genesis 9, " And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations;" then obviously if heaven and earth shall pass away then so will his words, or at least those who don't have his spirit abiding in them.

Remember, wisdom is the principal thing, therefore get wisdom and in all thy gettings get understanding since faith comes by hearing and hearing by the unseen word of God, thus man does not live by bread alone but by every word that proceedeth from the mouth of the LORD doth man live.

 

[Zmouth]

it came to my attention that in Isaiah 28 the 'precept upon precept, line upon line' saying, which is so often quoted, is said to have a specific purpose:

Whom shall He teach knowledge? And whom shall He make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.​

For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:​

For with stammering lips and another tongue will He speak to this people, to whom He said, this is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.​

But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.​

(Isaiah 28:9-13) ​

precept upon precept, because He will speak to that people with another tongue.
line upon line, in order that they fall backwards, be broken, snared and taken captive.

it doesn't seem to me in the context that 'precept upon precept, line upon line, here a little, and there a little' is a favorable thing.
it's a judgement.
it's because He told them of His Rest, but they would not hear it, nor give it to the weary.

i rather think we as humans tend to abuse that passage and treat it like it's something it really isn't -- and you may notice that verse 13 is very rarely quoted in full: people like to say 'precept on precept' to justify adding things one to another, but they don't like what the Bible says that situation is meant to result in, or to recognize the reason that situation came about.

Didn't mean to click the post button so my time is limited, will conclude in following post....
Eccl 12:9
And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs.
KJV

 

[posthuman]

Remember, wisdom is the principal thing, therefore get wisdom and in all thy gettings get understanding since faith comes by hearing and hearing by the unseen word of God, thus man does not live by bread alone but by every word that proceedeth from the mouth of the LORD doth man live.

"However, the days are coming," ​

declares the LORD, ​

"when it will no longer be said, ​

'As surely as the LORD lives, who brought the Israelites up out of Egypt'"
(Jeremiah 16:14)​

 

[Zmouth]

While I won't go into detail on what a principle is, other than to say it is not something that man can make up nor is a precept which is simply a know or observed fact.. Rather a principle is based upon a precept upon a precept, you can't have a principle unless there are two immutable things (precepts) which work together to give light upon the unseen word of God.

7 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. .James 1:17

But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken. Isaiah 28:13

Well if you read down a few verses in Isaiah you will read about the principle being the precious stone, a sure foundation:

17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it

 

[Zmouth]

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"However, the days are coming," ​

declares the LORD, ​

"when it will no longer be said, ​

'As surely as the LORD lives, who brought the Israelites up out of Egypt'"​

(Jeremiah 16:14)​

Not really sure what you are trying to express???

Do you know that what is written was what the LORD actually said? or what context it was said?

 

[UnderGrace]

What if I told you each race was created equally but separately. and just as the angels took wives for themselves, and had offspring, lucifer beguiled eve and had offspring, also what if I said that Cain was that offspring belonging to the serpent and able belonged to Adam, No other children had been born to the eight-day Adam and eve. until Seth, and Cain chose his 2 wives from one of the other races in the land of nod,
Would saying these things put to rest a lot of questions or would it create more. Or would anyone even really care?

What are your thoughts

I'd say that's messed up and not what God says.

 

[Enocish]

I'd say that's messed up and not what God says.

If you'd say that, then it seems that the falling away is further along than what I had originally thought, I would suggest a church that teaches you how to study for your self, They are out there.

 

[UnderGrace]

If you'd say that, then it seems that the falling away is further along than what I had originally thought, I would suggest a church that teaches you how to study for your self, They are out there.

You believe Satan (there is no Lucifer) beguiled Eve and they had children?

 

[Enocish]

if you don't understand at least the first six chapters of Genisis, You will never understand the rest of the Bible,

You believe Satan (there is no Lucifer) beguiled Eve and they had children?

I'm curious Just exactly who do you think the serpent was?