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Not so, the context is the great necessity to gather with other Christians for spiritual (and social) fellowship especially in the dark evil days immediately before the Lord’s second coming, for spiritual survival.
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I didn't understand this (Not so, the context is the great necessity to gather with other Christians for spiritual (and social) fellowship especially in the dark evil days immediately before the Lord’s second coming, for spiritual survival.)
Leviticus 23 v. 32. " from evening to evening you shall separate your Sabbath "
evening is when the sun becomes even with the horizon.
so, when the Sabbath was kept was ordained by the Father.
will you accept this now?? I mean, you do say you keep it.
there are quite a few references to the 'first day of the week, but they never refer to an OFFICIAL WORSHIP DAY. established by GOD.....always to a 'work-day... on which people 'perchance meet and socialize. That is how 'sunday-worship' started....it's not from GOd.
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That is why there are pastors. Pastors are not meant to set up a church building an station themselves there.
Yes, from even to even, when it is close to sunset . I had to press that point gb, because some people say evening starts in the afternoon which is literally hours away from sunset.. And yes, I have observed Sabbath for nearly 40 years from sunset to sunset or as near as possible, seeing we get little sun in winter in the northern Hemisphere.(England).
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People always say every first day of the week, but it doesn't say that. The scriptures can be twisted and made to say what you want.
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So what’s the deal here? We are not to fellowship with a local assembly?
Do some of the local assemblies keep the believers as infants? I’m sure there are.
But there are also local fellowships that a healthy - worshipping God, edifying the believers, and sharing the Gospel.
Do some of the local assemblies keep the believers as infants? I’m sure there are.
But there are also local fellowships that a healthy - worshipping God, edifying the believers, and sharing the Gospel.
o.k., so this proves what I have been trying to explain to you- Jesus died on thur, afternoon ( 1 ), was in the tomb through the Sabbath, ( 2 ), and then, sometime overnight, after the sundown ended Sabbath and started the first day of the week, He rose, then ' early in the morning " the women discovered the empty tomb.
that is the basis for sunday worship,
First of all the word *church* needs to be defined.
For example :
For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
That can be defined as church. Many so called churches are far
from what scripture teaches and is going to those the right thing
to do. Any church, no matter what can only bring you so far. They
teach the intellectual Christ. A couple of hours on a Sunday is
sufficient for many if not most. There comes a time when we no
longer need to know about God but rather to know God intimately
by surrendering to Him. Once the Spirit is in us, we become a new
creation in Christ. At that point our only desire is the love of God.
And that would not be on Sunday only or any other day only but
every single day of our Christian life. Once God is in us and we are
in God, there is no one that can teach us anything other than the
direct power of God. If we do not bring ourselves to that place, no
preacher is going to help us. Our mission in Christianity is to walk
like Jesus did on earth.
For example :
For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
That can be defined as church. Many so called churches are far
from what scripture teaches and is going to those the right thing
to do. Any church, no matter what can only bring you so far. They
teach the intellectual Christ. A couple of hours on a Sunday is
sufficient for many if not most. There comes a time when we no
longer need to know about God but rather to know God intimately
by surrendering to Him. Once the Spirit is in us, we become a new
creation in Christ. At that point our only desire is the love of God.
And that would not be on Sunday only or any other day only but
every single day of our Christian life. Once God is in us and we are
in God, there is no one that can teach us anything other than the
direct power of God. If we do not bring ourselves to that place, no
preacher is going to help us. Our mission in Christianity is to walk
like Jesus did on earth.
Frankly, I think the Sabbatarian argument is baseless. Nowhere in the NT are Christians commanded to worship on a specific day. Nowhere in the NT are Christians forbidden from worshiping on a certain day either.
It is incorrect to call Sunday 'the Sabbath' but it is also incorrect to claim that Christians are wrong to worship on Sunday. Further, I don't accept the argument that the first day of the week is the day on which Christians are to gather. That's just what they happened to do in the first century, but saying that we "must" is making doctrine from narrative, which is always suspect.
If it works for your fellowship to meet on a Thursday afternoon, and you spend that time in the Word, in song, in prayer and fellowship and the breaking of bread, but don't meet on Saturday or Sunday, is that somehow wrong or inadequate? Um, no. Not a bit.
It is incorrect to call Sunday 'the Sabbath' but it is also incorrect to claim that Christians are wrong to worship on Sunday. Further, I don't accept the argument that the first day of the week is the day on which Christians are to gather. That's just what they happened to do in the first century, but saying that we "must" is making doctrine from narrative, which is always suspect.
If it works for your fellowship to meet on a Thursday afternoon, and you spend that time in the Word, in song, in prayer and fellowship and the breaking of bread, but don't meet on Saturday or Sunday, is that somehow wrong or inadequate? Um, no. Not a bit.
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In Christ, everyday is a holy day. No need for Sunday church. Believers can fellowship when ever they want.