Hell's Population Clock

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Webers.Home

Well-known member
May 28, 2018
5,896
1,084
113
Oregon
.
During the 16th century, an Italian man named Niccolò Machiavelli wrote a
political treatise titled: The Prince. It's main theme is how to get power, and
once you've got it; how to keep it.

The book's instructions apply to all forms of power whether in business, in
government, the military, the mafioso, school boards, investment banking,
and even religion and church management practices.

You might be surprised at the number and variety of famous, respectable
people who've been influenced by The Prince, not only in the past, but right
up to the very present. Machiavelli's book, like Sun Tzu's book The Art Of
War
, is timeless.

However; there's a hitch. Machiavelli's ideas work best when employed by
monsters, i.e. sociopaths: because it's necessary to sacrifice integrity and
conscience to make them work; i.e. it's necessary to become cruel,
inhumane, and thoroughly indifferent to the principles of trust and honesty.

The word "Machiavellian" is in Webster's defined as: marked by cunning,
duplicity, or bad faith, i.e. not guided by, or showing a concern for, what is
right in respect to social norms and acceptable behavior.

In other words: it's not what's right that counts with Machiavellian
personalities; it's what works, viz: they practice a sort of moral flexibility.

The Bible describes heaven as a place of peace. I think it goes without
saying that Machiavellian personalities are not allowed there. For one, they
would make heaven unbearable for the decent folk. For another, they would
not fit in. And for another, their way of life would just end up turning heaven
into another Earth.

Pop Clock Update: 1,315 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 77,034,015
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since December 10,
2014.
_
 

OstrichSmiling

Well-known member
Jun 17, 2018
1,027
418
83
Hell has received no one yet.


And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
-Revelation 20:12-15
 
T

theanointedsinner

Guest
if we were to guess at the approximate number of people in hell right now, it will be approximately the same as the world population we have right now, at the least.
 

Webers.Home

Well-known member
May 28, 2018
5,896
1,084
113
Oregon
.
Lev 24:10-12 . . And the son of an Israelitish woman, whose father was an
Egyptian, went out among the children of Israel: and this son of the
Israelitish woman and a man of Israel strove together in the camp; and the
Israelitish woman's son blasphemed the name of The Lord, and cursed.

. . . And they brought him unto Moses: (and his mother's name was
Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan) And they put him in
ward, that the mind of The Lord might be showed them.

That incident is a pretty good illustration of the current purpose of the fiery
sector of hades. It's a place to hold people till the day when the mind of the
Lord will be shown concerning them.

Rev 20:13. . Death and hades gave up the dead that were in them, and
each person was judged according to what he had done.

Pop Clock Update: 1,317 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 77,151,177
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since December 10,
2014.
_
 

OstrichSmiling

Well-known member
Jun 17, 2018
1,027
418
83
.
Lev 24:10-12 . . And the son of an Israelitish woman, whose father was an
Egyptian, went out among the children of Israel: and this son of the
Israelitish woman and a man of Israel strove together in the camp; and the
Israelitish woman's son blasphemed the name of The Lord, and cursed.


. . . And they brought him unto Moses: (and his mother's name was
Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan) And they put him in
ward, that the mind of The Lord might be showed them.


That incident is a pretty good illustration of the current purpose of the fiery
sector of hades. It's a place to hold people till the day when the mind of the
Lord will be shown concerning them.


Rev 20:13. . Death and hades gave up the dead that were in them, and
each person was judged according to what he had done.


Pop Clock Update: 1,317 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 77,151,177
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since December 10,
2014.
_
No, they haven't. Nothing's changed about Revelations protocols since yesterday. Or the day before. Or the day before that.
 
T

theanointedsinner

Guest
.
Lev 24:10-12 . . And the son of an Israelitish woman, whose father was an
Egyptian, went out among the children of Israel: and this son of the
Israelitish woman and a man of Israel strove together in the camp; and the
Israelitish woman's son blasphemed the name of The Lord, and cursed.


. . . And they brought him unto Moses: (and his mother's name was
Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan) And they put him in
ward, that the mind of The Lord might be showed them.


That incident is a pretty good illustration of the current purpose of the fiery
sector of hades. It's a place to hold people till the day when the mind of the
Lord will be shown concerning them.


Rev 20:13. . Death and hades gave up the dead that were in them, and
each person was judged according to what he had done.


Pop Clock Update: 1,317 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 77,151,177
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since December 10,
2014.
_
why make such complicated calculations, you will never find the exact number

especially since, "world population" is approximately the number of people in hell right now is a good enough estimation
 

GodisONE

Active member
Jul 11, 2018
212
44
28
I find it interesting that some people believe every reference to hell only means the grave we are buried in.

they believe Gehenna [which exists to this day] was only a trash dump where they burned garbage.

and they conclude this because scripture states: DEATH and HELL will be cast into the Lake of Fire and this is the SECOND DEATH [meaning hell the grave represents the first death.



my own thoughts have even plagued me on this issue, because up to about 800 years ago, the demons and Satan was painted BLUE like they were freezing, not burning. Today, they are depicted as RED. almost makes you wonder if scripture was tampered with and this hell concept was created.

but one thing is definitely for certain, the Lake of Fire is described as sulfur, burning flesh, gnashing of teeth, the worm dieth not, and it burns forever!!

so, even if hell is just the grave, the Lake of Fire will make up for it!!
 

OstrichSmiling

Well-known member
Jun 17, 2018
1,027
418
83
why make such complicated calculations, you will never find the exact number

especially since, "world population" is approximately the number of people in hell right now is a good enough estimation
Not when it doesn't comport with the scriptures.
 

Webers.Home

Well-known member
May 28, 2018
5,896
1,084
113
Oregon
.
Former US President George H.W. Bush passed away November 30, 2018 at
age 94. The media couldn't say enough good about Mr. Bush; day after day
the papers, the television, the magazines, the op eds, and the talk shows
were filled with accolades about how wonderful he was as a man, a father, a
humanitarian, and a political leader.

Well; in my estimation, all that flap and rhetoric was little more than a red
herring as I couldn't help but wonder what Almighty God thought of the
man; and of the people who spoke and wrote so much about him.

John 5:44 . . How can you believe if you accept praise from one another,
yet make no effort to obtain the praise that comes from the only God?

Pop Clock Update: 1,491 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 87,344,271
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since December 10,
2014.
 

Laish

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2016
1,666
449
83
58
Ok so what’s the point ?
Blessings
Bill
 

Deade

Called of God
Dec 17, 2017
16,724
10,531
113
78
Vinita, Oklahoma, USA
yeshuaofisrael.org
.
Former US President George H.W. Bush passed away November 30, 2018 at
age 94. The media couldn't say enough good about Mr. Bush; day after day
the papers, the television, the magazines, the op eds, and the talk shows
were filled with accolades about how wonderful he was as a man, a father, a
humanitarian, and a political leader.


Well; in my estimation, all that flap and rhetoric was little more than a red
herring as I couldn't help but wonder what Almighty God thought of the
man; and of the people who spoke and wrote so much about him.


John 5:44 . . How can you believe if you accept praise from one another,
yet make no effort to obtain the praise that comes from the only God?


Pop Clock Update: 1,491 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 87,344,271
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since December 10,
2014.
Are you speculating about his salvation? That is not a healthy propensity.

in-deep-thought-smiley-emoticon.gif
 

louis

Senior Member
Nov 1, 2017
1,102
86
48
Even if no one is in hell yet, it is still a safe bet to say that the many who do not find life through the narrow gate means that billions upon billions are destined to be thrown into the lake of fire.
In regards to the lake of fire, I think this may be represented by the gross darkness that the faithless in the world will realize, when the Lord comes like a thief in the night and removes Himself from them, thereby causing their final spiritual destruction.
What will be left on the outside where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, will be worse than Machiavellian.



Isaiah 60:2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.
Revelation 16:10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

1 Thessalonians 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Matthew 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
 

Locutus

Senior Member
Feb 10, 2017
5,928
685
113
Pop Clock Update: 1,491 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post #1 are within reason, then something like 87,344,271
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since December 10,
2014.
rolleye.gif

Maybe stand closer to the fire so you can warm yer heart.
 

Deade

Called of God
Dec 17, 2017
16,724
10,531
113
78
Vinita, Oklahoma, USA
yeshuaofisrael.org
Even if no one is in hell yet, it is still a safe bet to say that the many who do not find life through the narrow gate means that billions upon billions are destined to be thrown into the lake of fire.
In regards to the lake of fire, I think this may be represented by the gross darkness that the faithless in the world will realize, when the Lord comes like a thief in the night and removes Himself from them, thereby causing their final spiritual destruction.
What will be left on the outside where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, will be worse than Machiavellian.



Isaiah 60:2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.
Revelation 16:10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,


1 Thessalonians 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Matthew 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Fairly sadistic god you are serving there. Why did He create so many people just to burn?

in-deep-thought-smiley-emoticon.gif