What must I do to be saved
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no root <- not rooted in Christ
God isnt decieved by some disingenuous faith that can be walked away from no matter how "glad" it makes you
no root <- no ability to grow <- no new heart <-no quickened spirit <- not born again <- not saved
many repobate who love nothing more than their sin also say they believe
and do in their knowledge accept the fact Jesus is no liar
-> but in their heart reject Him and are given over <- never saved
God knew the end from the start
these are not His children
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Amen brother! Also NO CROP/FRUIT "except" in the 4th soil. It amazes how the same people who point to James chapter 2 and shout "faith without works is dead" from the roof tops will turnaround and say that "fruitless" faith (shallow, temporary belief) in the parable of the soils represents saving faith. 
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Amen brother! Also NO CROP/FRUIT "except" in the 4th soil. It amazes how the same people who point to James chapter 2 and shout "faith without works is dead" from the roof tops will turnaround and say that "fruitless" faith in the parable of the soils represents saving faith.
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Amen brother! Also NO CROP/FRUIT "except" in the 4th soil. It amazes how the same people who point to James chapter 2 and shout "faith without works is dead" from the roof tops will turnaround and say that "fruitless" faith (shallow, temporary belief) in the parable of the soils represents saving faith.
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The first type of soil refutes this. The devil snatches the word from the 1st soil type so that it doesn't believe the word and be saved. The 2nd soil type does receive the word gladly in their hearts and are therefore saved. Receiving the word is what saves.
And the ones by the way are the ones hearing; then comes the devil and takes the word from their heart, lest having believed they should be saved. Luke 8:12
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you cant flip flop and play word games with scripture
yes those BY THE WAY SIDE (<-first soil)have the word taken from their heart LEST HAVING BELIEVED<- did not believe <- they should be saved
but we were talking about the second soil <-
6 And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture.
13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
this is a case of a lacking faith <-
dead faith <- no root <- no heart of flesh but a heart of stone
these can be likened to the reprobate <- God is not decieved by this sort of lacking belief
they arent given over from saved children
they are not of us
and He makes it manifest
yes those BY THE WAY SIDE (<-first soil)have the word taken from their heart LEST HAVING BELIEVED<- did not believe <- they should be saved
but we were talking about the second soil <-
6 And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture.
13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
this is a case of a lacking faith <-
dead faith <- no root <- no heart of flesh but a heart of stone
these can be likened to the reprobate <- God is not decieved by this sort of lacking belief
they arent given over from saved children
they are not of us
and He makes it manifest
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Yes, I know. Because I don't agree with your doctrine I'm crazy, don't listen, confused, and whatever 'tgat' is. And that you're not here to argue and that you'll pray God will open my eyes and bring me to the truth. Just make sure Ed Rappaport (my real name) gets put on your prayer list as you wrestle in prayer for me.
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I thought 'real' believers never leave. So, you are either saying that the Parable of the Prodigal Son is not a proof text for 'once saved always saved', or you believe the new Freegrace version of once saved always saved which says that even if you leave the faith you are still saved. Which are you?
No, salvation is lost due to your unbelief.
This is the MAIN reason people can not hear what I'm saying. They instantly think that I'm saying salvation is lost by sinning. I'm saying salvation is lost by a return to unbelief. That is what the Galatians were doing. Paul warned them they will lose the efficacy of Christ in justification and will not be heirs if they fall away from faith and trust in Christ for justification.
No. Once God turns you over to your unbelief and you lose salvation, that's it. You don't get a second chance to be born again. God does not allow his Son to be re-crucified and put to open shame that way.
Ultimately, unforgiveness is a sign of unbelief. Ultimately, the forgiven Christian who does not forgive is living away from God in unbelief. If he does not repent in the space God provides, he will be condemned as an unbeliever when Jesus comes back to settle accounts.
Reread Matthew 18:23-35 again. He WILL do that. Or do you not believe the scriptures?
Like I say, getting red-pilled is not easy:
Red pill and blue pill
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill
The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
No, salvation is lost due to your unbelief.
This is the MAIN reason people can not hear what I'm saying. They instantly think that I'm saying salvation is lost by sinning. I'm saying salvation is lost by a return to unbelief. That is what the Galatians were doing. Paul warned them they will lose the efficacy of Christ in justification and will not be heirs if they fall away from faith and trust in Christ for justification.
No. Once God turns you over to your unbelief and you lose salvation, that's it. You don't get a second chance to be born again. God does not allow his Son to be re-crucified and put to open shame that way.
Ultimately, unforgiveness is a sign of unbelief. Ultimately, the forgiven Christian who does not forgive is living away from God in unbelief. If he does not repent in the space God provides, he will be condemned as an unbeliever when Jesus comes back to settle accounts.
Reread Matthew 18:23-35 again. He WILL do that. Or do you not believe the scriptures?
Like I say, getting red-pilled is not easy:
Red pill and blue pill
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill
The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
- Knowledge, freedom, and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
- Security, happiness and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)
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Apparently, the interpretation provided by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is insufficient for you.