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Here you go again "twisting my words"; I never said confessing and believing in my heart that God raised Jesus from the dead was horrible, I said "Your fake gospel", was horrible and it is. You also twist and misinterpret the bible in this way, and yes that is horrible as well.
Putting false words on a public forum that I "never ever said", is at least akin to lying, if not actually lying.
Putting false words on a public forum that I "never ever said", is at least akin to lying, if not actually lying.
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no requirement, no matter how awkward, or "that's it?" (no requirements attached) your heart may feel, that your heart may feel "so eerie", yet being blessed by such a generous God, ... ooh, what is this our hearts feel, desire to love him back? Jesus suffered for us to the point of deprivation, we feel bad for Jesus, and want to hold Jesus in our arms like a vulnerable creature that's faint but breathing ... um, I'm just a layperson, I really need to work in my theology or something
no requirement, no matter how awkward, or "that's it?" (no requirements attached) your heart may feel, that your heart may feel "so eerie", yet being blessed by such a generous God, ... ooh, what is this our hearts feel, desire to love him back? Jesus suffered for us to the point of deprivation, we feel bad for Jesus, and want to hold Jesus in our arms like a vulnerable creature that's faint but breathing ... um, I'm just a layperson, I really need to work in my theology or something
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1 Corinthians 15
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
this is paul
speaking to a church
in this church there are many who have heard the truth
those who STAND in it are saved (brothers)
those who turn from it
are not
their "belief" was not genuine
paul cannot see their hearts
but he is addressing brothers
as well as the goats mixed in with the sheep <- belief lacking in faith (no trust... doesnt endure... no confidence.... no trust ... not born again... no new heart ... no quickened spirit)
those who believe in vain are of this sort
1 John 2:19
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
or this sort
Romans 1:28
“And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;”
but we (brothers) are not of them
Hebrews 10:39
39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
this is paul
speaking to a church
in this church there are many who have heard the truth
those who STAND in it are saved (brothers)
those who turn from it
are not
their "belief" was not genuine
paul cannot see their hearts
but he is addressing brothers
as well as the goats mixed in with the sheep <- belief lacking in faith (no trust... doesnt endure... no confidence.... no trust ... not born again... no new heart ... no quickened spirit)
those who believe in vain are of this sort
1 John 2:19
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
or this sort
Romans 1:28
“And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;”
but we (brothers) are not of them
Hebrews 10:39
39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
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Too bad the scripture doesn’t teach that.
Repent means turn to God is submission to His kingdom and rule as Lord.
By default if you are called to turn to God, then you are called to turn away from Satan as your lord.
The is the obedience of faith by which we are saved.
that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
32 “Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven. 33 But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven. Matthew 10:32-33
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Repent means turn to God is submission to His kingdom and rule as Lord.
By default if you are called to turn to God, then you are called to turn away from Satan as your lord.
The is the obedience of faith by which we are saved.
that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
32 “Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven. 33 But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven. Matthew 10:32-33
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Just once.
Our salvation will be determined at the end of our faith, once it has been tested are tried and found to be true.
6 In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various trials, 7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ, 8 whom having not seen you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, 9 receiving the end of your faith—the salvation of your souls.
1 Peter 1:6-9
Some will depart from the faith.
Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 1 Timothy 4:1
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Our salvation will be determined at the end of our faith, once it has been tested are tried and found to be true.
- receiving the end of your faith—the salvation of your souls.
6 In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various trials, 7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ, 8 whom having not seen you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, 9 receiving the end of your faith—the salvation of your souls.
1 Peter 1:6-9
Some will depart from the faith.
- some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons
Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 1 Timothy 4:1
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This is TruthTalk's original post, in response to Benhur.
Ben, why is it that you can't understand that works DO NOT and WILL NOT save you? They have no power to save. They have no ability to keep you saved. Lastly, they will NOT get you into heaven.
That $5 you gave the neighbor kid for mowing your lawn won't save you. Shoveling an old ladies' driveway won't save you. Donating to charities won't save you.
We are ONLY to do good works, for the purpose of obeying God and showing His love to others through us.. anything done for any other purpose, in done totally in vain.
Ben, why is it that you can't understand that works DO NOT and WILL NOT save you? They have no power to save. They have no ability to keep you saved. Lastly, they will NOT get you into heaven.
That $5 you gave the neighbor kid for mowing your lawn won't save you. Shoveling an old ladies' driveway won't save you. Donating to charities won't save you.
We are ONLY to do good works, for the purpose of obeying God and showing His love to others through us.. anything done for any other purpose, in done totally in vain.
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