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You do have to earn your salvation, because the one that endures to the end will have earned the right to eat from the tree of life.,and that requires working out your salvation.
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ahh, No I can not see anything he says, I guess when people are in the prayer bin in this new format they are really hidden. it looked like you were talking to yourself..lol
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Then God lied when he said we are saved by grace, not works.
The bible is a lie
Jesus died for nothing (we can save ourselves. why was he so foolish to come die for us when he did not have to?
I can go on and on and on with the issues if what you say is true.
How many times do you people have to be shown that when jesus said he who endures to the end, he was speaking ONLY of this in the great tribulation period. enduring until his return (the end) and if they can, They will not suffer the fate of billions of people who will die in that 7 year period. thus that has nothing to do with the salvation of anyone?
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They will tell you that because they never actually followed the true God, therefore the true God will deny having known them.
I don't subscribe to this idea, but that is what I've heard.
A better question is this: How do we know the true Creator?
I ask this question because even having the "infallible" word, we can be lost if we don't read it correctly, hence the evil denominations and false Christian sects that have emerged from such "ignorant" interpretations.
You are saved as long as you act right in his kingdom. mess up and you will be kicked out. The very same way he did Satan.
So Christians never mess up at all? There is a big difference between temporarily messing up (Peter denied Christ three times for example) and completely rebelling against God and saying, "'I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, And I will sit on the mount of assembly In the recesses of the north." (Isaiah 14:13)
You have the wrong idea. and concept. Satan was doomed to eternal damnation in the lake of fire, after having all the blessings of God. This is the same pattern Satan is trying to destroy mankind.
I know that. I was comparing a Christian (Peter) who temporarily messed up by denying Christ three times with (Satan) who completely rebelled against God and said that he will ascend to heaven and raise his throne above the stars of God..
How can you talk to someone that is not in the world. He was talking to the present and future that read the scriptures.
That was because they had not obtained all the knowledge and received the holy ghost which was to teach them. Peter was of the elect, on his way to be saved.
Blessings and eternal salvation are two different things. Not one person was saved eternally until Jesus paid the price.
Peter was already a believer who was saved (Matthew 16:16; John 20:31). Peter also messed up in Galatians 2:11-16.
I tell you what! just give up doing what you're doing in Christ,and see where it will get you
Peter was just being hypocritical ,and ashamed of what his own people would think of him.