Today I think more on the lines that the government of the church which could be called Israel was restored and not the nation Israel. What would the Israel as those pertaining to a outward Jew be restored to, natural man ? All Israel is are not born again Christian .So it would be more like all of God's people will be saved. God is not a respecter of person he does not owe any nation anything. They are in the same place as gentiles under the same law of God. Not a Jewish law pertaining to the flesh. Salvation is of the inward Jew born again of the spirit of Christ. The use of their flesh in parables was in order to preach the gospel in respect to the suffering of Christ and the glory that followed (the renting of the veil) It ended when the reformation came .A great tribulation for a outward Jew It restored the government to a previous time period. Most likely the period of Judges before there were Kings in Israel
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Today I think more on the lines that the government of the church which could be called Israel was restored and not the nation Israel. What would the Israel as those pertaining to a outward Jew be restored to, natural man ? All Israel is are not born again Christian .So it would be more like all of God's people will be saved. God is not a respecter of person he does not owe any nation anything. They are in the same place as gentiles under the same law of God. Not a Jewish law pertaining to the flesh. Salvation is of the inward Jew born again of the spirit of Christ. The use of their flesh in parables was in order to preach the gospel in respect to the suffering of Christ and the glory that followed (the renting of the veil) It ended when the reformation came .A great tribulation for a outward Jew It restored the government to a previous time period. Most likely the period of Judges before there were Kings in Israel
The one world government of this world under the wisdom of this world is a antichrist Christ government (another mediator)other than Christ . The god of this world owns all the kingdom of this world as the mi kingdom that will become the kingdom of God in the new heavens and earth.
Revelation 11:15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Our government preaches the separation of Church and state but know it is a impossibility .They avoid being persecuted for the word of God more and more. They decide what and when and if moral laws are to be used . When the law of the land violates the written laws of God it has to do with high places and principalities (not flesh and blood).
We are informed that the heart of the King, or President, Emperor, or atheistic ruler, are in the hand of the Lord .
He is the overseer keeping nations from totally destroying each other . we are like the Allstate commercial .In good hands with Christ
Proverbs 21:1The king's heart is in the hand of the Lord, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/vatican-calls-for-one-world-government-really/
This article say vatican call for one world government, what is your opinion.
Rev 13
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
What is this verse mean? Whosoever not worship will be kill, and you believe the people will freely give their right, not by force?
What is the verse that antichrist government not by force?
This article say vatican call for one world government, what is your opinion.
Rev 13
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
What is this verse mean? Whosoever not worship will be kill, and you believe the people will freely give their right, not by force?
What is the verse that antichrist government not by force?
You shouldn't allow that issue to interfere with your relationship with Christ.
The Gospel is very simple to understand, Jesus said all you need to do is believe in Him and you shall be saved. People try to add all kind of other requirement for salvation, but Jesus never complicated it. Most people find it to simple to accept, so they went and made thousands of religions with complicated formulas for salvation.
If you believe in Jesus, you are saved without any doubt. Remember to believe in Jesus doesn't only mean, we believe He existed. It means we believe in everything He said and commanded us to do. So we can't claim to believe in Him if we don't obey Him. everything He taught and commanded us to do is all for our own benefit.
Humble yourself and come before Him as a baby, put aside all of your wisdom and allow Him to do His work of salvation in you.
The Gospel is very simple to understand, Jesus said all you need to do is believe in Him and you shall be saved. People try to add all kind of other requirement for salvation, but Jesus never complicated it. Most people find it to simple to accept, so they went and made thousands of religions with complicated formulas for salvation.
If you believe in Jesus, you are saved without any doubt. Remember to believe in Jesus doesn't only mean, we believe He existed. It means we believe in everything He said and commanded us to do. So we can't claim to believe in Him if we don't obey Him. everything He taught and commanded us to do is all for our own benefit.
Humble yourself and come before Him as a baby, put aside all of your wisdom and allow Him to do His work of salvation in you.
S
Reasonable would be if your statements were accurate, which they were not. You had issues understanding the times, and also the way the preparation days/periods work, so, it is not a reasonable explanation. The best explanation I found was in "gotquestions.org", they straight up chalked it up to John meaning to have written "preparation day for the sabbath" not the Passover, but that is a huge stretch and is laughable because they have to change the words to make it work..... I Didn't call you a liar, I'm calling a liar those who will look at you in the eye and tell you that the bible is perfect and without error.
It simply isn't true. That example I presented is one among many, things like these can be found also in the OT.
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They are not in your view.
I had no issue understanding anything.
The Passover day was friday, this is also the day that pharoah said he would offer to free one prisoner.
it was also the same day as the preperation for the passover week. Which started with the feast of unleavened bread.
I also showed how 2 different time periods could easily show why their APPEARED to be a discrepancy, when non was there. You outright said no. Well, believe what you want.. You can not prove I was not right, any more than I can prove you are in that area. we can just go by Gods word that it will not contradict. thats why we can use Gods word to interpret itself. most times when I find an appearant discrepency, I find it was my interpretation in error not the word.
I had no issue understanding anything.
The Passover day was friday, this is also the day that pharoah said he would offer to free one prisoner.
it was also the same day as the preperation for the passover week. Which started with the feast of unleavened bread.
I also showed how 2 different time periods could easily show why their APPEARED to be a discrepancy, when non was there. You outright said no. Well, believe what you want.. You can not prove I was not right, any more than I can prove you are in that area. we can just go by Gods word that it will not contradict. thats why we can use Gods word to interpret itself. most times when I find an appearant discrepency, I find it was my interpretation in error not the word.
S
Do you realize that no one else talked about "hell" and "Condemnation" more than "Jesus" in the new testament?
I know all of the passages that make it[salvation] seem like a simple act of faith, but there are many, many other passages that would suggest it is a bit more difficult than just "believing".
Not to mention the discrepancies present and the heavy Jewish symbolism that ties into Old testament stories and such.
Let's look at something very quickly.
1. Jesus Died during Passover or the preparation day for Passover, as explained in my previous posts. (depending which account you read)
2. Moses was partially responsible for establishing the Passover commemoration, which involved a struggle between the evil Pharaoh and the chosen people.
3. The Pharaoh "liberated" the Jews upon the happening of the last plague that ironically had 2 major key aspects:
-It required all of the First Begotten sons be killed
-The blood of the lamb would mark and protect the Jewish houses sparing their sons.
4. Jesus is the first Begotten son, and Jesus is the lamb, he also shed his blood, and not so surprisingly his crucifixition happened on passover, just like the Jews were saved by the pass over of the angel of death.
- Sin is death, or the wages of sin is death, so there's another connection there.
There are even more parallels and similarities between Jesus and Moses..... When you start seeing things like this, and then you realize that the accounts are not nearly as accurate as they would have you believe. Couple that with further studies of religion and Jewish culture you realize that it sounds a lot like some type of epic literary story.
Sure, many would say I am wise in my own sight, etc... But what if..... just what if..... there is more to it and we don't look into it any further based only on what we have been taught and conditioned to believe?
I know all of the passages that make it[salvation] seem like a simple act of faith, but there are many, many other passages that would suggest it is a bit more difficult than just "believing".
Not to mention the discrepancies present and the heavy Jewish symbolism that ties into Old testament stories and such.
Let's look at something very quickly.
1. Jesus Died during Passover or the preparation day for Passover, as explained in my previous posts. (depending which account you read)
2. Moses was partially responsible for establishing the Passover commemoration, which involved a struggle between the evil Pharaoh and the chosen people.
3. The Pharaoh "liberated" the Jews upon the happening of the last plague that ironically had 2 major key aspects:
-It required all of the First Begotten sons be killed
-The blood of the lamb would mark and protect the Jewish houses sparing their sons.
4. Jesus is the first Begotten son, and Jesus is the lamb, he also shed his blood, and not so surprisingly his crucifixition happened on passover, just like the Jews were saved by the pass over of the angel of death.
- Sin is death, or the wages of sin is death, so there's another connection there.
There are even more parallels and similarities between Jesus and Moses..... When you start seeing things like this, and then you realize that the accounts are not nearly as accurate as they would have you believe. Couple that with further studies of religion and Jewish culture you realize that it sounds a lot like some type of epic literary story.
Sure, many would say I am wise in my own sight, etc... But what if..... just what if..... there is more to it and we don't look into it any further based only on what we have been taught and conditioned to believe?
S
It is not my view.... It is objective truth. It is text, it can be taken at face value. What is the problem with that?
The other examples you presented were tied to either the mentioning of the prep day for the sabbath... You tried to use that to explain it, but the sabbath came after Passover, literary, after the Passover, it was the prep time/day for the sabbath.
I don't waste all my time reading and studying for no reason. I do it because I see there is something there.
The bible can be taken in 2 ways:
1. The historically and critical way
2. The devotional approach
The word is great for devotion, you can learn a lot of truths and it can make you a better person, (sort of) but you have to realize that there indeed are errors, of which some are almost impossible to reconcile.
My "beef" with it is that I felt lied to and fooled by anyone that ever taught me scripture or preached to me because they claimed it all to be objective and irrefutable truth. That is impossible when the ONLY source for your faith is riddled with issues like these...
It takes some serious studying and reading to see these issues since they are not apparent on the surface, but they are there.
The other examples you presented were tied to either the mentioning of the prep day for the sabbath... You tried to use that to explain it, but the sabbath came after Passover, literary, after the Passover, it was the prep time/day for the sabbath.
I don't waste all my time reading and studying for no reason. I do it because I see there is something there.
The bible can be taken in 2 ways:
1. The historically and critical way
2. The devotional approach
The word is great for devotion, you can learn a lot of truths and it can make you a better person, (sort of) but you have to realize that there indeed are errors, of which some are almost impossible to reconcile.
My "beef" with it is that I felt lied to and fooled by anyone that ever taught me scripture or preached to me because they claimed it all to be objective and irrefutable truth. That is impossible when the ONLY source for your faith is riddled with issues like these...
It takes some serious studying and reading to see these issues since they are not apparent on the surface, but they are there.
S
1. Do you believe one world government is antichrist government
They already have a script written that most of the western world will buy into. The "Antichrist" is nothing more than a fear tactic and a plot to instill paranoia into the people. So to answer your question, I do believe that the common government is part of this "NWO" scheme, all main countries are involved, it greatly revolves around the submission of these smaller countries and their banks. If you control the money, you control the people. in the year 2000 there were 7 nations left that were not tied to a Roths-------child central bank:
In order for a one world government to work, all nations must cooperate, and they all must be be financially tied. They have to grab these nations by the proverbial, financial balls.
2. What do you mean by all mainstream leader, mainstream religious leader from Christian side or all religions.
In my opinion Christianity is part of the control scheme, you have to realize it is the biggest religion in the world, and its other Judaic Cousin Islam is the second biggest. So all big conglomerates and governments are in on it. Your local protestant or catholic church down the road have no idea, they are just taking a devotional approach to the bible and teaching it as such. But the vatican, and all of the big governments and banks, etc know what is going on. It is a multi-generational scheme, possibly spanning millennia.
3. You say NWO is not what I think, what do you think NWO look like
You might get an idea from the above...
They already have a script written that most of the western world will buy into. The "Antichrist" is nothing more than a fear tactic and a plot to instill paranoia into the people. So to answer your question, I do believe that the common government is part of this "NWO" scheme, all main countries are involved, it greatly revolves around the submission of these smaller countries and their banks. If you control the money, you control the people. in the year 2000 there were 7 nations left that were not tied to a Roths-------child central bank:
- Afghanistan
- Iraq
- Sudan
- Libya
- Cuba
- North Korea
- Cuba
- North Korea
- Iran
In order for a one world government to work, all nations must cooperate, and they all must be be financially tied. They have to grab these nations by the proverbial, financial balls.
2. What do you mean by all mainstream leader, mainstream religious leader from Christian side or all religions.
In my opinion Christianity is part of the control scheme, you have to realize it is the biggest religion in the world, and its other Judaic Cousin Islam is the second biggest. So all big conglomerates and governments are in on it. Your local protestant or catholic church down the road have no idea, they are just taking a devotional approach to the bible and teaching it as such. But the vatican, and all of the big governments and banks, etc know what is going on. It is a multi-generational scheme, possibly spanning millennia.
3. You say NWO is not what I think, what do you think NWO look like
You might get an idea from the above...
Do I say may people want one world government? I never.
What I read again and again is vatican want one world government
I give you 3 link among thousands
https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/10/25/the-vatican-calls-for-world-government/
https://prophecyinthenews.com/world...ls-for-one-world-government-to-save-humanity/
https://forums.catholic.com/t/pope-francis-world-government-must-rule-u-s-for-their-own-good/445846
What I read again and again is vatican want one world government
I give you 3 link among thousands
https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/10/25/the-vatican-calls-for-world-government/
https://prophecyinthenews.com/world...ls-for-one-world-government-to-save-humanity/
https://forums.catholic.com/t/pope-francis-world-government-must-rule-u-s-for-their-own-good/445846
Yep, that what I heard, the preparation was start for long time, I hear vatican own federal reserve, not us government, vatican print money from thin air, loan it to us government and tax payer must pay the paper interest. I listen to Karen hudes, she say some federal tax money goes to vatican, that why vatican is so rich. Money buy influence, more than standing army. Vatican weapon is money. In my country, a poor country, the rich are powerful, they weapon is money, with their money they pay army to protect them. I believe this is what happen with vatican. Yes most country involve, but I heard vatican is the boss, vatican secretly behind this even.
I believe you have over complicated the scriptures, and you have become suspicious abut those similarities because they sound miraculous. We need faith to believe the Bible, the word of God is foolishness to those who are perishing.
Unless the Holy Spirit opens your spiritual eyes, you won't be able to accept the truth of scripture because you are using carnal reasoning to understand spiritual things.
Unless the Holy Spirit opens your spiritual eyes, you won't be able to accept the truth of scripture because you are using carnal reasoning to understand spiritual things.
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