Christian holidays vs Biblical holidays

[gb9]

I have never said scripture/language has been corrupted. The premise of your question is based on an untrue assumption. I have repeated the warnings of the Bible of religious men who preach falsehoods, and corrupt the Word. But the Word itself still contains "Instruction in Righteousness", in my opinion.

you are correct. you did not say that the language was corrupt. my mistake.

but, you have said the interpretation of the text was corrupted by early preachers.

so, I ask you again, please give me a place to find the proper interpretation.

 

[Studyman]

you are correct. you did not say that the language was corrupt. my mistake.

but, you have said the interpretation of the text was corrupted by early preachers.

so, I ask you again, please give me a place to find the proper interpretation.

I believe there is only one way to receive the proper interpretation.

John 14:
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

 

[Dan_473]

="Dan_473, post: 3635898, member: 190874"]

The Word says he followed God's Laws.


I find no reason to assume God was different with Abraham as He is with anyone else given the scriptures say He is no respecter of persons. I have no religious tradition to defend that would cause me to question the integrity of God's Word. I believe the Bible is clear as to what God's Laws are. No reason to assume Abraham served a different God, or that His God is different than mine.



I know what they are Dan, The scriptures say "God's Law, God Commandments. I have no reason to doubt or question this. He didn't identify and describe them to me until Moses. I'm OK with that as, like I said, it doesn't matter what the instruction is, rather, that we follow them as did Abraham and all examples of "faith" in the Bible.

Matt. 19:
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

Are these not God's Laws?

Rom. 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. "Lev. 19:18"

Are these not God's Laws?

"I know what they are Dan, The scriptures say "God's Law, God Commandments."

if you know what they are, please list them. please be specific.

yes, Matthew 19 and Romans 13 list some laws. is that all of them, in your view?

I thought your reasoning was that Abraham had a set of laws. Then 430 years later the levitical priesthood laws were added to those laws that Abraham had kept in the past. then when Jesus came, the levitical priesthood laws were done away with. but the laws that Abraham had kept remained. and those laws, the ones that Abraham had kept were the ones that Christians were to keep today. is that your view or something different?

 

[Dan_473]

Commandment 6:

13 "You shall not murder. (Exodus 20:13)

The Book of Job states:

14 The murderer rises with the light; He kills the poor and needy;
And in the night he's like a thief (Job 24:14).

39 If I have eaten its fruit without money, or caused its owners to lose their lives;
40 Then let thistles grow instead of wheat, and weeds instead of barley (Job 31:39-40).

These scriptures clearly support the concept that Job and his companions considered murder
to be wrong. Job 24:14 is similar to a teaching by Jesus tieing in murder and thievery together:

10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. (John 10:10).

Job knew of this connection thousands of years before Jesus stated it as recorded by John.


Commandment 7:

14 "You shall not commit adultery. (Exodus 20:14)

The Book of Job states:

15 The eye of the adulterer waits for the twilight, saying, 'No eye will see me';
and he disguises his face (Job 24:15).

1 I have made a covenant with my eyes; Why then should I look upon a young woman?
(Job 31:1).

9 "If my heart has been enticed by a woman, Or if I have lurked at my neighbor's door,
10 Then let my wife grind for another, And let others bow down over her. 11 For that would
be wickedness; Yes, it would be iniquity deserving of judgment. 12 For that would be a fire
that consumes to destruction, And would root out all my increase. (Job 31:9-12).

These scriptures clearly support the concept that Job and his companions knew adultery
was prohibited and an 'iniquity deserving of judgement.'


Commandment 8:

15 "You shall not steal. (Exodus 20:15)

The Book of Job states:

5 Is not your wickedness great, and your iniquity without end? 6 For you have taken pledges
from your brother for no reason, and stripped the naked of their clothing (Job 22:5-6).

14 And in the night he's like a thief (Job 24:14).

39 If I have eaten its fruit without money, or caused its owners to lose their lives;
40 Then let thistles grow instead of wheat, and weeds instead of barley (Job 31:39-40).

These scriptures clearly support the concept that Job and his companions
considered stealing to be wrong.


Commandment 9:

16 "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. (Exodus 20:16)

The Book of Job states:

28 I would never lie to your face (Job 6:28).

15:35 They conceive trouble and bring forth futility; Their womb prepares deceit.

24:25 Now if it is not so, who will prove me a liar and make my speech worth nothing?

27:4 My lips will not speak wickedness, nor my tongue utter deceit (Job 27:4).

34:6 Should I lie concerning my right? (Job 34:6).

36:4 For truly my words are not false (Job 36:4).

These scriptures clearly support the concept that Job and his companions
considered 'bearing false witness' to be wrong.


Commandment 10:

17 "You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife,
nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything
that is your neighbor's." (Exodus 20:17)

The Book of Job states:

2 And envy slays a simple one (Job 5:2).

12 Why does your heart carry you away, and what do your eyes wink at, that you turn
your spirit against God, and let such words go out of your mouth? (Job 15:12-13).

15:1 They conceive trouble and bring forth futility (Job 15:35).

31:1 I have made a covenant with my eyes; Why then should I look upon a young woman?

9 "If my heart has been enticed by a woman, Or if I have lurked at my neighbor's door,
10 Then let my wife grind for another, And let others bow down over her. 11 For that
would be wickedness; Yes, it would be iniquity deserving of judgment. 12 For that would
be a fire that consumes to destruction, And would root out all my increase. (Job 31:9-12).

These scriptures clearly support the concept that Job and his companions considered
covetousness (or evil desire) to be wrong. Since Paul wrote, "I would not have known
sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law
had said, 'You shall not covet.' " (Rom 7:7), it is clear that the law against covetousness
must have been in effect prior to Mount Sinai.

In your view, is that a complete list of all the laws of God that were available to humans before Moses?
If not, please list the rest.

 

[gb9]

I believe there is only one way to receive the proper interpretation.

John 14:
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

here is what I am getting at- you say that the Law is in different parts. greek language interoperates it as 1 word, used 190 times or so in the N.T. I go with that. you say no, that is wrong

so, that is why I am asking you for a source that interoperates that( or anything ) as you do.

Jesus said Himself that if He testifies of Himself, that testimony is not true. John 5 v.31

the Law states that one witness is not enough, it takes 2 or 3 to establish a matter. Deuteronomy 19 v.15

so, with this in mind, I ask you again- please provide a source that translates Scripture as you do.

 

[Studyman]

"I know what they are Dan, The scriptures say "God's Law, God Commandments."

if you know what they are, please list them. please be specific.

yes, Matthew 19 and Romans 13 list some laws. is that all of them, in your view?

I thought your reasoning was that Abraham had a set of laws. Then 430 years later the levitical priesthood laws were added to those laws that Abraham had kept in the past. then when Jesus came, the levitical priesthood laws were done away with. but the laws that Abraham had kept remained. and those laws, the ones that Abraham had kept were the ones that Christians were to keep today. is that your view or something different?

We are discussing what the Bible says, not my view.

Did Abraham keep God's Laws? The Bible says Yes. Did Zechariahs keep God's Laws, the Bible says Yes.

Was the Levitical Priesthood "ADDED" to God's Laws? The Bible says Yes.

Did Jesus change the Levitical Priesthood, the Bible says Yes. Is Jesus now the High Priest? The Bible says Yes.

It is not my reasoning that Abraham had God's Laws Dan. It is the Word of God. Your unbelief doesn't make the Word of God Void.

It is not my reasoning that Jesus said I should obey "The Commandments" if I want to enter life.

Did Jesus come to destroy His Commandments? The Bible says NO.

If you don't know what God's Commandments are, why are you preaching on this forum?

 

[prove-all]

In your view, is that a complete list of all the laws of God
that were available to humans before Moses?
If not, please list the rest.

Besides the first 5 commandments also
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...biblical-holidays.177529/page-20#post-3635956

I believe Adam was in the garden with God, and was taught on the first Sabbath.
I believe the first Passover was when God shed blood, to cloth Adam and Eve.
I believe Cain and Able could have offered to God, like on a day of atonement.

 

[Studyman]

here is what I am getting at- you say that the Law is in different parts. greek language interoperates it as 1 word, used 190 times or so in the N.T. I go with that. you say no, that is wrong

so, that is why I am asking you for a source that interoperates that( or anything ) as you do.

Jesus said Himself that if He testifies of Himself, that testimony is not true. John 5 v.31

the Law states that one witness is not enough, it takes 2 or 3 to establish a matter. Deuteronomy 19 v.15

so, with this in mind, I ask you again- please provide a source that translates Scripture as you do.

I am simply repeating what the scriptures say. I don't need to have them validated by you or the Pope or anyone else. You can choose to believe them, or not. The preaching that I need two or more witness to prove the Word of God is foolish at best and down right evil at worse.

Jesus didn't take a consensus among the self proclaimed "Children of God" in His time to see if they agreed with God's Word.

Jesus, as the Word before becoming Flesh, promised to change the way God's Law was administered. It's in Jer. 31. He also promised to change the way sins were forgiven in this same chapter.

Hebrews 7-10 confirm this teaching.

Your unbelief or religious traditions do not make this promise void.

 

[Dan_473]

We are discussing what the Bible says, not my view.

Did Abraham keep God's Laws? The Bible says Yes. Did Zechariahs keep God's Laws, the Bible says Yes.

Was the Levitical Priesthood "ADDED" to God's Laws? The Bible says Yes.

Did Jesus change the Levitical Priesthood, the Bible says Yes. Is Jesus now the High Priest? The Bible says Yes.

It is not my reasoning that Abraham had God's Laws Dan. It is the Word of God. Your unbelief doesn't make the Word of God Void.

It is not my reasoning that Jesus said I should obey "The Commandments" if I want to enter life.

Did Jesus come to destroy His Commandments? The Bible says NO.

If you don't know what God's Commandments are, why are you preaching on this forum?

I post on the Forum because I feel led to. I'm not asking you what you believe about what laws Abraham kept because I do not know what I believe about God's Commandments. I am asking you because it sounds like you believe we are to keep those same laws today.

if you believe that we are to keep the laws that Abraham kept, then please say what those laws are. please be specific.

 

[Dan_473]

Besides the first 5 commandments also
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...biblical-holidays.177529/page-20#post-3635956

I believe Adam was in the garden with God, and was taught on the first Sabbath.
I believe the first Passover was when God shed blood, to cloth Adam and Eve.
I believe Cain and Able could have offered to God, like on a day of atonement.

is that the complete list then? The Ten Commandments, the Passover, and the day of atonement?

 

[gb9]

I am simply repeating what the scriptures say. I don't need to have them validated by you or the Pope or anyone else. You can choose to believe them, or not. The preaching that I need two or more witness to prove the Word of God is foolish at best and down right evil at worse.

Jesus didn't take a consensus among the self proclaimed "Children of God" in His time to see if they agreed with God's Word.

Jesus, as the Word before becoming Flesh, promised to change the way God's Law was administered. It's in Jer. 31. He also promised to change the way sins were forgiven in this same chapter.

Hebrews 7-10 confirm this teaching.

Your unbelief or religious traditions do not make this promise void.

your refusal to name a source is in direct violation of Jesus, who you claim to follow, and the Law , which you claim to have inside

I am simply repeating what the scriptures say. I don't need to have them validated by you or the Pope or anyone else. You can choose to believe them, or not. The preaching that I need two or more witness to prove the Word of God is foolish at best and down right evil at worse.

Jesus didn't take a consensus among the self proclaimed "Children of God" in His time to see if they agreed with God's Word.

Jesus, as the Word before becoming Flesh, promised to change the way God's Law was administered. It's in Jer. 31. He also promised to change the way sins were forgiven in this same chapter.

Hebrews 7-10 confirm this teaching.

Your unbelief or religious traditions do not make this promise void.

your words are void. you refuse to acknowledge the authority of Scripture. I asked you for a source , backed up with Scripture, and you refuse.

you are now in direct contempt of God's Word.

 

[Studyman]

I post on the Forum because I feel led to. I'm not asking you what you believe about what laws Abraham kept because I do not know what I believe about God's Commandments. I am asking you because it sounds like you believe we are to keep those same laws today.

if you believe that we are to keep the laws that Abraham kept, then please say what those laws are. please be specific.

I believe we should turn from our own ways and religions and turn to God's way and instructions.

I believe we should follow God's Laws and I believe Abraham also followed God's Laws. I also know Abraham didn't have the Levitical Priesthood for the atonement of sins, therefore Abraham was not Justified by "works of the Law" He didn't even have, as Paul says.

If you want to know what Laws to follow, you should listen to the Author and finisher of my Faith. He honored God's Sabbath, He honored God Holy days, and He followed God's Commandments. They are in your Bible. The Sabbath was the Test Commandment of the Bible. I believe it still is. It is written that were to "Walk even as He walked". There it is.

It is the only Commandment that Honors God's creation and directs us to His Mindset. "Remember" He says.

Most can not accept this. That is why God's Path is a narrow one with few on it, IMO.

I don't believe you have to have a preacher or a religious franchise to turn to God. I believe God is Spirit and real. You turn to Him, and He will turn to you.

It's hard to really believe this, but in my experience it is true.

 

[Studyman]

your refusal to name a source is in direct violation of Jesus, who you claim to follow, and the Law , which you claim to have inside



your words are void. you refuse to acknowledge the authority of Scripture. I asked you for a source , backed up with Scripture, and you refuse.

you are now in direct contempt of God's Word.

So let me get this straight. If you don't believe in the scriptures I post, then I am in contempt? Is this like all your insults and attacks and ridicule you threw at me for posting the scriptures where Jesus called the Pharisees "children of satan"?

Sorry G9, been there, done that. Your unbelief doesn't make the Words of God you ignore Void. It didn't in the last time you scorned me, and it won't this time either.

 

[pjharrison]

Jesus did not rise on a Sabbath, if that what ya'll are aiming at.

In Christ we don't observe any of the holidays anymore. They are all furfilled in Christ. The Christian holidays are pagan.

 

[gb9]

So let me get this straight. If you don't believe in the scriptures I post, then I am in contempt? Is this like all your insults and attacks and ridicule you threw at me for posting the scriptures where Jesus called the Pharisees "children of satan"?

Sorry G9, been there, done that. Your unbelief doesn't make the Words of God you ignore Void. It didn't in the last time you scorned me, and it won't this time either.

you do not believe the Scripture you post. Jesus Himself said that self testimony is not valid. the Law says out of the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses a matter shall be established.

you say the Bible translation is corrupt. I ask you for a source of correct translation. you refuse to provide it, then keep talking about obeying the Scripture.

until you provide a source to back up what say, you are in contempt of Scripture.

 

[Dan_473]

I believe we should turn from our own ways and religions and turn to God's way and instructions.

I believe we should follow God's Laws and I believe Abraham also followed God's Laws. I also know Abraham didn't have the Levitical Priesthood for the atonement of sins, therefore Abraham was not Justified by "works of the Law" He didn't even have, as Paul says.

If you want to know what Laws to follow, you should listen to the Author and finisher of my Faith. He honored God's Sabbath, He honored God Holy days, and He followed God's Commandments. They are in your Bible. The Sabbath was the Test Commandment of the Bible. I believe it still is. It is written that were to "Walk even as He walked". There it is.

It is the only Commandment that Honors God's creation and directs us to His Mindset. "Remember" He says.

Most can not accept this. That is why God's Path is a narrow one with few on it, IMO.

I don't believe you have to have a preacher or a religious franchise to turn to God. I believe God is Spirit and real. You turn to Him, and He will turn to you.

It's hard to really believe this, but in my experience it is true.

Studyman,
I believe you said this subject was of great interest to you

This is a subject of great interest for me. I tried to keep it as short as I can but it is somewhat long. Please read it so you can at the very least understand why I think the way I do.



The scriptures teach that Abraham had God's Laws. But we know Levi wasn't even born yet, so Abraham didn't have the Levitical Priesthood. Paul said these "Works of the law" for justification and atonement of sins was "ADDED" 430 years later. The Jews, many even to this day, continue to follow their version of this Levitical Priesthood having rejected the teaching that Jesus is the Messiah. Given they didn't believe Jesus was the Messiah, they continued to perform Sacrificial, Ceremonial Levitical Priesthood "Works of the Law" gave by God through Moses "till the Seed should come".



21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?



22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.



23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.



24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.



Two Covenants, one given to Abraham and his children, the children of Israel as He promised. One given to Moses for the atonement of sins. "till the Seed should Come".



Gen. 12:



1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:



2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:



3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.



4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him;



This is God's Covent with Abraham which Jesus continued.



24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, (his country, his kindred, his fathers house) and take up his cross, and follow me. (into a land which I will show thee)



But the Covenant that God "ADDED" 430 years after Abraham was the Priesthood Abraham didn't have for the atonement of sins.



Because carnal man is an enemy of God, and is not subject to His Commandment, they refuse to accept that Abraham had God's Laws which the scripture says he obeyed, but didn't have the Levitical Priesthood. The Jews first, and now modern religious man.



As a result they combine God's Laws Abraham obeyed, with the Priesthood which was added to God's Laws Abraham obeyed, until the seed should come.



29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.



30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.



31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.



Your preaching, or certainly the implication of your preaching, is that the Laws of God Abraham had and obeyed forced him into bondage, when the opposite happened.



And God hinted of the abolition of the Priesthood throughout the Bible for those interested in seeking the truth. But never His universal Law given to Abraham and all mankind.



1 Sam. 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices,(Levitical Priesthood "works of the Law for remission of sins) as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.



23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.



Ps. 40:



6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.



7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,



8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.



Psalms 51:



16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.



17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, (Self denial) O God, thou wilt not despise.



"Cast out the Bondwomen"



Jer. 31:



33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.



34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.



No more Levite Priests to administer God's Laws, not more Levitical Priesthood "works of the Law" for the atonement of sins.



You who desire to be under these "Works of the Law", do you not read the Law?

in the above post you say


"The scriptures teach that Abraham had God's Laws."


then you talk about the levitical priesthood laws being added to the laws that Abraham kept


'..."Works of the law" for justification and atonement of sins was "ADDED" 430 years later.'


and you continue on with


"As a result they combine God's Laws Abraham obeyed, with the Priesthood which was added to God's Laws Abraham obeyed, until the seed should come.


then
you talk about God abolishing the levitical priesthood laws


"And God hinted of the abolition of the Priesthood throughout the Bible for those interested in seeking the truth."


which then leaves the laws that Abraham kept


"But never His universal Law given to Abraham and all mankind."


it sounds like you believe that the Bible teaches that we are to keep the same laws that Abraham kept.


So, these universal laws given to all mankind, are there references to them in the scriptures? If so what is the first reference?


For example, you could say, "The first reference to the universal law that is given to all mankind is here:
Genesis 9: 4. But flesh with its life, its blood, you shall not eat."
(if indeed that is the first reference that you come to as you read the scriptures.)

 

[Studyman]

Studyman,
I believe you said this subject was of great interest to you


in the above post you say


"The scriptures teach that Abraham had God's Laws."


then you talk about the levitical priesthood laws being added to the laws that Abraham kept


'..."Works of the law" for justification and atonement of sins was "ADDED" 430 years later.'


and you continue on with


"As a result they combine God's Laws Abraham obeyed, with the Priesthood which was added to God's Laws Abraham obeyed, until the seed should come.


then
you talk about God abolishing the levitical priesthood laws


"And God hinted of the abolition of the Priesthood throughout the Bible for those interested in seeking the truth."


which then leaves the laws that Abraham kept


"But never His universal Law given to Abraham and all mankind."


it sounds like you believe that the Bible teaches that we are to keep the same laws that Abraham kept.


So, these universal laws given to all mankind, are there references to them in the scriptures? If so what is the first reference?


For example, you could say, "The first reference to the universal law that is given to all mankind is here:
Genesis 9: 4. But flesh with its life, its blood, you shall not eat."
(if indeed that is the first reference that you come to as you read the scriptures.)

I have said, over and over, that I believe we should follow God's Instructions, God's Commandments, God's Laws. I have also said I believe in the Bible when it Says Abraham also followed God's instructions, God's Commandments, God's Laws.

I also stated that I believe God didn't enumerate and explain His Instructions to me until He had Moses deliver them to me.

I love this Parable Jesus told with it's reference to Abraham.

29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

31 And he (Abraham) said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

And again:

45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

and again:

26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?

and again;

39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

 

[Dan_473]

I have said, over and over, that I believe we should follow God's Instructions, God's Commandments, God's Laws. I have also said I believe in the Bible when it Says Abraham also followed God's instructions, God's Commandments, God's Laws.



I also stated that I believe God didn't enumerate and explain His Instructions to me until He had Moses deliver them to me.



I love this Parable Jesus told with it's reference to Abraham.



29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.



30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.



31 And he (Abraham) said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.



And again:



45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.



46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.



47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?



and again:



26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?



and again;



39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.



40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

this part of your post

I also stated that I believe God didn't enumerate and explain His Instructions to me until He had Moses deliver them to me.

great! So God enumerated and explained his instructions to you when Moses delivered them to you. I assume those are the same instructions that Abraham followed, God's universal law given to all mankind.
these things that were delivered to you through Moses, were they written down? As in, in the Bible?
if so please give the first reference in the Bible, that is starting with the first one a person comes to when starting at the beginning of Genesis.
For example, you could say, "The first reference to the instructions delivered to me through Moses is here:
Genesis 9: 4. But flesh with its life, its blood, you shall not eat."
(if indeed that is the first reference that you come to as you read the scriptures.)

 

[Studyman]

this part of your post



great! So God enumerated and explained his instructions to you when Moses delivered them to you. I assume those are the same instructions that Abraham followed, God's universal law given to all mankind.
these things that were delivered to you through Moses, were they written down? As in, in the Bible?
if so please give the first reference in the Bible, that is starting with the first one a person comes to when starting at the beginning of Genesis.
For example, you could say, "The first reference to the instructions delivered to me through Moses is here:
Genesis 9: 4. But flesh with its life, its blood, you shall not eat."
(if indeed that is the first reference that you come to as you read the scriptures.)

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

 

[posthuman]

It is the only Commandment that Honors God's creation

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They will prohibit marriage and require abstinence from certain foods that God has created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For every creation of God is good, and nothing that is received with thanksgiving should be rejected, because it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer ​

(1 Timothy 4:3-5) ​

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this says the acceptance of all foods with thanksgiving honors God's creation