The Messiah's Spirit left His body at the moment of His death. Where did it go?

[rstrats]

Ecclesiastes 12:7 - "Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it."

Luke 23:46 - "And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, 'Father, into Your hands I commend My spirit. And having said this, He breathed His last."

However, 1 Peter 3:18-19 says - "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison."

Are the 1 Peter verses referring to the Messiah's preaching to the spirits in prison during the time from His death to His resurrection? Or are they referring to a different time? And if it is referring to the former, when do the Ecclesiastes and Luke passages occur?

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Christ didn't preach to spirits in prison after he died. That would be pointless because repentance only pertains to the living. That passage in Peter refers to the spirit of Christ speaking through Noah to the now (but not then) departed spirits of disobedient men that are currently imprisoned in sheol.

 

[notuptome]

We can speculate that Christ preached to the souls in Abrahams bosom after He left His body at the cross. I would speculate that Christ went to Abrahams bosom and proclaimed Himself the Messiah and took those faithful OT saints into the presence of God to await the resurrection of the saints at the close of the church age.

There was no second chance for the condemned as they remain where they were unto the great white throne judgment where they will be condemned to eternity in the lake of fire.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Nehemiah6]

Christ didn't preach to spirits in prison after he died.

You enjoy contradicting the Bible (not the first time either).

The OP quoted Scripture which said precisely that Christ preached to the spirits in prison. So you are obligated to determine how and why and what was preached and what was this prison. Not contradict Scripture.

I will address the OP separately.

 

[Noose]

We can speculate that Christ preached to the souls in Abrahams bosom after He left His body at the cross. I would speculate that Christ went to Abrahams bosom and proclaimed Himself the Messiah and took those faithful OT saints into the presence of God to await the resurrection of the saints at the close of the church age.

There was no second chance for the condemned as they remain where they were unto the great white throne judgment where they will be condemned to eternity in the lake of fire.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

The OT saints were seen on earth at some point in time soon after Jesus died.

 

[Noose]

IMO
When someone dies, their spirit goes to sheol- in Sheol the spirits are restless and on earth they are not allowed unless they are embodied. I do believe that spirits of believers dwell in sheol for 3.5 days and are resurrected so that they indwell living believers on earth just like Jesus did- and they judge earth dwellers from within living believers.

Evil spirits (demons) are also allowed to indwell earth dwellers and cheat them (the parables/stories - 1. an evil spirit is cast from a man, it wanders in deserts and comes back with seven other demons when the heart has been swept clean 2. The demons/legion beoing cast from a man requested Jesus to send them into the pigs so that they can continue staying on earth because sheol is not a pleasant place)

Psalms 55 can shade more light.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

You enjoy contradicting the Bible (not the first time either).

The OP quoted Scripture which said precisely that Christ preached to the spirits in prison. So you are obligated to determine how and why and what was preached and what was this prison. Not contradict Scripture.

It's pretty clear what Peter was saying here. In long suffering while Noah was building the ark, Christ in spirit proclaimed salvation through Noah to his disobedient neighbors, who's departed spirits are now imprisoned awaiting judgment.

Instead of this simple, sensible, biblical interpretation you believe the cockamamie idea that Jesus went and preached the gospel to Noah's dead wicked neighbors, because of whom GOD destroyed the world. There is absolutely nothing in scripture to support such an idea. Nothing.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Ecclesiastes 12:7 - "Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it."

Luke 23:46 - "And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, 'Father, into Your hands I commend My spirit. And having said this, He breathed His last."

However, 1 Peter 3:18-19 says - "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison."

Are the 1 Peter verses referring to the Messiah's preaching to the spirits in prison during the time from His death to His resurrection? Or are they referring to a different time? And if it is referring to the former, when do the Ecclesiastes and Luke passages occur?

Let’s take this one step at a time:

Are the 1 Peter verses referring to the Messiah's preaching to the spirits in prison during the time from His death to His resurrection?

Here is what we read in 1 Peter 3:18-20 (KJB): For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

What is the passage saying?

A. Christ suffered and died for our sins “in the flesh” (His body was subject to death)

B. Christ was very much alive after His death -- “but quickened” (made alive) by the Holy Spirit -- although His body was in the tomb

C. During His entombment, Christ preached (Gk ekeruxen = proclaimed or made proclamation) something to the spirits in prison

D. These spirits were disobedient during the time of Noah, while the Ark was being prepared.

E. Only eight souls were saved within the Ark. All others perished in the Flood.

So we need to understand this in the light of all the other Scriptures pertaining to this matter.

1. Christ was in Sheol/Hades (called “hell” mistakenly in the KJB) for three days and three nights after His death. As He had prophesied that He would be in “the heart of the earth” or “in the lower parts of the earth”, He fulfilled that prophecy.

2. Hades (the “prison”) had at least three *compartments* -- (1) one for the righteous dead (called “Abraham’s bosom”), (2) one for the unrighteous dead (separated from the unrighteous by a huge chasm or gulf), and (3) one for the “the angels which sinned” or “the angels which kept not their first estate”, called Tartarus (and separated from all the other spirits), where they are in chains (even at present) until their final judgment.

3. The “spirits in prison” would therefore include the unrighteous dead as well as the angels which sinned, although even for the righteous dead, being confined to Hades until the resurrection of Christ would be a de facto prison.

4. We know from Scripture that there is no second chance for those who die unsaved (Heb 9:27). Therefore it is not possible that Christ preached the Gospel of salvation to those who were in Hades. It was too late for them.

5. So what did Christ PROCLAIM to all these spirits (souls included)? He had said “It is finished” just before He died, therefore He would have declared (or proclaimed) His victory over sin, death, Hades, Hell, and Satan: And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. (Col 2:15) ... Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.(1 Pet 3:22). He would probably also remind all the spirits who were damned that their final judgment was reserved for them and that they all would be cast into the Lake of Fire.

6. This passage does NOT say that the Spirit of Christ preached through Noah, since Noah preached to them BEFORE the Flood and before they were imprisoned in Hades. Christ preached TO THE SPIRITS IN PRISON.

So what does Ecclesiastes 12:7 have to say about this? Nothing. All it says is that the body becomes dust and the breath (“the spirit”) returns to God. Since all souls and spirits at that time went to Sheol/Hades, they obviously did not go to God.

And what does Luke 23:46 have to say? Simply that just before Christ expired, He commended His spirit to God the Father, which means He placed His spirit in the hands of the Father, and the Father caused the Holy Spirit to bring Him very much alive into Hades.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Instead of this simple, sensible, biblical interpretation you believe the cockamamie idea that Jesus went and preached the gospel to Noah's dead wicked neighbors, because of whom GOD destroyed the world. There is absolutely nothing in scripture to support such an idea. Nothing.

Read my detailed post and acknowledge your error.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Read my detailed post and acknowledge your error.

Point 5 - pure conjecture.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Ecclesiastes 12:7 - "Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it."

Luke 23:46 - "And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, 'Father, into Your hands I commend My spirit. And having said this, He breathed His last."

However, 1 Peter 3:18-19 says - "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison."

Are the 1 Peter verses referring to the Messiah's preaching to the spirits in prison during the time from His death to His resurrection? Or are they referring to a different time? And if it is referring to the former, when do the Ecclesiastes and Luke passages occur?

Hello rstrats,

First of all, regarding Luke 23:46, I believe that when Jesus said "Father, into your hands I commit my Spirit" that He was putting His trust in God to protect His spirit, entrusting it to Him and not to mean that His spirit went to heaven. The reason that I say this is because of the following scripture:

"Do not cling to Me,” Jesus said, “for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go and tell My brothers, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God.’” - John 20:17

Therefore, since the Lord said that he had not yet ascended to the Father, then the word "commit" in Luke 23:46 could not have meant that His spirit departed to heaven. I personally believe that when Jesus' body died on the cross, that His spirit departed and He went to the same place where Abraham and Lazarus were as well as all the rest of the OT saints, which was that place of comfort. In relation to this, I would offer the following scripture:

"Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!” And Jesus said to him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”

Since both Jesus and the man crucified with Him died that very day, then how could Jesus say "today you will be with me in paradise?" As I said, I believe that both the spirits of Jesus and the man departed their bodies and went to that area of comfort i.e. paradise, where Abraham, Lazarus and the rest of the OT saints were.

 

[shrume]

Let’s take this one step at a time:

Here is what we read in 1 Peter 3:18-20 (KJB): For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

What is the passage saying?

A. Christ suffered and died for our sins “in the flesh” (His body was subject to death)

B. Christ was very much alive after His death -- “but quickened” (made alive) by the Holy Spirit -- although His body was in the tomb

He was quickened by the spirit after three days and three nights, when the Father raised him from the dead.

C. During His entombment, Christ preached (Gk ekeruxen = proclaimed or made proclamation) something to the spirits in prison

He did not do anything while he was dead. He was dead.

D. These spirits were disobedient during the time of Noah, while the Ark was being prepared.

Yes.

E. Only eight souls were saved within the Ark. All others perished in the Flood.

So we need to understand this in the light of all the other Scriptures pertaining to this matter.

1. Christ was in Sheol/Hades (called “hell” mistakenly in the KJB) for three days and three nights after His death. As He had prophesied that He would be in “the heart of the earth” or “in the lower parts of the earth”, He fulfilled that prophecy.

Jesus was dead and in the grave for three days and three nights.

2. Hades (the “prison”) had at least three *compartments* -- (1) one for the righteous dead (called “Abraham’s bosom”), (2) one for the unrighteous dead (separated from the unrighteous by a huge chasm or gulf), and (3) one for the “the angels which sinned” or “the angels which kept not their first estate”, called Tartarus (and separated from all the other spirits), where they are in chains (even at present) until their final judgment.

The first part of this comes from believing the parable in Luke 16 is literally true.

Tartarus is a separate place.

3. The “spirits in prison” would therefore include the unrighteous dead as well as the angels which sinned, although even for the righteous dead, being confined to Hades until the resurrection of Christ would be a de facto prison.

The spirits in prison refers to the devil spirits in Tartarus. It's sad that you believe Abraham was in "de facto prison" for ~2000 years. Abraham was, and still is, dead. He will be raised at the resurrection of the just, which is still future.

4. We know from Scripture that there is no second chance for those who die unsaved (Heb 9:27). Therefore it is not possible that Christ preached the Gospel of salvation to those who were in Hades. It was too late for them.

You can't talk to dead people. They are dead, and can't hear you.

5. So what did Christ PROCLAIM to all these spirits (souls included)? He had said “It is finished” just before He died, therefore He would have declared (or proclaimed) His victory over sin, death, Hades, Hell, and Satan: And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. (Col 2:15) ... Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.(1 Pet 3:22). He would probably also remind all the spirits who were damned that their final judgment was reserved for them and that they all would be cast into the Lake of Fire.

He proclaimed his victory over death to the imprisoned devil spirits. They had given up their freedom in trying to prevent the Christ from coming. Jesus wanted them to know that their efforts had been a waste of time.

6. This passage does NOT say that the Spirit of Christ preached through Noah, since Noah preached to them BEFORE the Flood and before they were imprisoned in Hades. Christ preached TO THE SPIRITS IN PRISON.

Yes. In his resurrected body.

So what does Ecclesiastes 12:7 have to say about this? Nothing. All it says is that the body becomes dust and the breath (“the spirit”) returns to God. Since all souls and spirits at that time went to Sheol/Hades, they obviously did not go to God.

When people die, they are dead, as it has always been. But resurrections are coming...

And what does Luke 23:46 have to say? Simply that just before Christ expired, He commended His spirit to God the Father, which means He placed His spirit in the hands of the Father, and the Father caused the Holy Spirit to bring Him very much alive into Hades.

True, except for the last clause in red. Jesus trusted that the Father would raise him from the dead.

 

[Nehemiah6]

He was quickened by the spirit after three days and three nights, when the Father raised him from the dead.

Since Christ left Hades (the prison) at the end of three day and three night, this cannot be applicable.

He did not do anything while he was dead. He was dead.

You just contradicted the Bible with your own humanistic reasoning.

Jesus was dead and in the grave for three days and three nights.

The second time you contradicted Scripture.

The first part of this comes from believing the parable in Luke 16 is literally true.

The third time you contradicted Scripture. This is NOT a parable but a revelation of the afterlife.

Tartarus is a separate place.

That's what I said, but it could still be within the larger Hades, and separated from the others.

It's sad that you believe Abraham was in "de facto prison" for ~2000 years.

Had you studied Sheol, you would know that it was a de facto prison for the righteous dead. The Bible calls it "captivity" since the OT saints had to wait until the resurrection of Christ to go to the New Jerusalem.

Abraham was, and still is, dead. He will be raised at the resurrection of the just, which is still future.

SOUL SLEEP IS TOTALLY, TOTALLY FALSE. Abraham is in Heaven, with all the other OT saints -- the spirits of just men made perfect. And he will certainly be resurrected, but he is very much awake and alive with Christ.

You can't talk to dead people. They are dead, and can't hear you.

While bodies die, souls and spirits are very much awake and alive, And in order to support your false doctrine, you deny the reality of Luke 16.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Christ didn't preach to spirits in prison after he died. That would be pointless because repentance only pertains to the living. That passage in Peter refers to the spirit of Christ speaking through Noah to the now (but not then) departed spirits of disobedient men that are currently imprisoned in sheol.

Have you ever considered that the imprisoned spirits that Jesus went to make proclamation to is referring to those angels who took wives for themselves. I have heard the teaching that the angels motive by taking human wives and having offspring was an attempt to corrupt the blood line in order to interfere with Jesus' immaculate birth. Therefore, after He had accomplished being born without sin and living in the flesh without every sinning and paying the sins of mankind, maybe it was to those angels/spirits that He went and proclaimed His victory to in Tartartus, in which they were imprisoned.

Just a thought!

 

[OstrichSmiling]

Ecclesiastes 12:7 - "Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it."

Luke 23:46 - "And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, 'Father, into Your hands I commend My spirit. And having said this, He breathed His last."

However, 1 Peter 3:18-19 says - "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison."

Are the 1 Peter verses referring to the Messiah's preaching to the spirits in prison during the time from His death to His resurrection? Or are they referring to a different time? And if it is referring to the former, when do the Ecclesiastes and Luke passages occur?

Don't forget to add, "Jesus said to him, “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise [C heaven or the presence of God].” " From the Book of Luke 23:43

Jesus also went to the blessed side of the grave, Sheol also known as Hades in the verses, is the place of departed souls , spirits. It is also called the place of the dead. There is a chasm that separates Sheol. It is divided into two parts . One part is known as Hell or Hades and that is where unbelievers reside awaiting the last judgment. They cannot cross over to the blessed side where the believers reside.
After Jesus spirit left his body that was crucified to the cross he descended to Sheol. And collected the faithful dead and with him to Paradise. Ephesians 4

Even from the cross the truth of Christ was known by a thief who repented of his sins from his own cross and right beside Jesus. Praise God.

 

[Johnny_B]

You enjoy contradicting the Bible (not the first time either).

Interesting how you would say that while you did not post the full context.

I Peter 3:18-20 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: by which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

When you take out the added numbering yu can see the context of what is being said. Notice Spirit is capitilized because it is speaking of the Holy Spirit that quickened Him from the dead and by the Holy Spirit Chirst preached to those imprisoned spirits in the days of Noah. The key word is "also" so not only did the Holy Spirit quicken Him by which also He went and preached in the days of Noah., during the time of God's longsuffering with the people of the time of Noah while the ark was being built.

Genesis 6:11-13 Now the earth was corrupt in God's sight, and the earth was filled with violence. And God saw the earth, and behold, it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth. And God said to Noah, “I have determined to make an end of all flesh,[c] for the earth is filled with violence through them. Behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

Let’s take this one step at a time:



Here is what we read in 1 Peter 3:18-20 (KJB): For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

What is the passage saying?

A. Christ suffered and died for our sins “in the flesh” (His body was subject to death)

B. Christ was very much alive after His death -- “but quickened” (made alive) by the Holy Spirit -- although His body was in the tomb

C. During His entombment, Christ preached (Gk ekeruxen = proclaimed or made proclamation) something to the spirits in prison

D. These spirits were disobedient during the time of Noah, while the Ark was being prepared.

E. Only eight souls were saved within the Ark. All others perished in the Flood.

So we need to understand this in the light of all the other Scriptures pertaining to this matter.

1. Christ was in Sheol/Hades (called “hell” mistakenly in the KJB) for three days and three nights after His death. As He had prophesied that He would be in “the heart of the earth” or “in the lower parts of the earth”, He fulfilled that prophecy.

2. Hades (the “prison”) had at least three *compartments* -- (1) one for the righteous dead (called “Abraham’s bosom”), (2) one for the unrighteous dead (separated from the unrighteous by a huge chasm or gulf), and (3) one for the “the angels which sinned” or “the angels which kept not their first estate”, called Tartarus (and separated from all the other spirits), where they are in chains (even at present) until their final judgment.

3. The “spirits in prison” would therefore include the unrighteous dead as well as the angels which sinned, although even for the righteous dead, being confined to Hades until the resurrection of Christ would be a de facto prison.

4. We know from Scripture that there is no second chance for those who die unsaved (Heb 9:27). Therefore it is not possible that Christ preached the Gospel of salvation to those who were in Hades. It was too late for them.

5. So what did Christ PROCLAIM to all these spirits (souls included)? He had said “It is finished” just before He died, therefore He would have declared (or proclaimed) His victory over sin, death, Hades, Hell, and Satan: And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. (Col 2:15) ... Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.(1 Pet 3:22). He would probably also remind all the spirits who were damned that their final judgment was reserved for them and that they all would be cast into the Lake of Fire.

6. This passage does NOT say that the Spirit of Christ preached through Noah, since Noah preached to them BEFORE the Flood and before they were imprisoned in Hades. Christ preached TO THE SPIRITS IN PRISON.

So what does Ecclesiastes 12:7 have to say about this? Nothing. All it says is that the body becomes dust and the breath (“the spirit”) returns to God. Since all souls and spirits at that time went to Sheol/Hades, they obviously did not go to God.

And what does Luke 23:46 have to say? Simply that just before Christ expired, He commended His spirit to God the Father, which means He placed His spirit in the hands of the Father, and the Father caused the Holy Spirit to bring Him very much alive into Hades.

For get your brake down look at the Scriptures, not the Scofield notes.

I Peter 3:18-20 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: by which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

When you take out the added numbering yu can see the context of what is being said. Notice Spirit is capitilized because it is speaking of the Holy Spirit that quickened Him from the dead and by the Holy Spirit Chirst preached to those imprisoned spirits in the days of Noah. The key word is "also" so not only did the Holy Spirit quicken Him by which also He went and preached in the days of Noah., during the time of God's longsuffering with the people of the time of Noah while the ark was being built.

Genesis 6:11-13 Now the earth was corrupt in God's sight, and the earth was filled with violence. And God saw the earth, and behold, it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth. And God said to Noah, “I have determined to make an end of all flesh, for the earth is filled with violence through them. Behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

Romans 8:11 If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus[d] from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.

 

[shrume]

Since Christ left Hades (the prison) at the end of three day and three night, this cannot be applicable.

Hades is the grave. Jesus left the grave when the Father raised him from the dead.

You just contradicted the Bible with your own humanistic reasoning.

I contradicted your understanding of what the Bible says because of your belief that the parable of Luke 16 is literal.

Jesus was dead and in the grave for three days and three nights.

The second time you contradicted Scripture.

Mat 12:40) For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three daysand three nights in the heart of the earth.

The third time you contradicted Scripture. This is NOT a parable but a revelation of the afterlife.

One day you'll know it is a parable.

That's what I said, but it could still be within the larger Hades, and separated from the others.

Hades is the grave. Tartarus is a prison for the gods.

Had you studied Sheol, you would know that it was a de facto prison for the righteous dead.

Sheol is the grave, or the state of being dead. It's where all the dead go, righteous or not.

Isa 38:
18) For Sheol cannot praise you. Death cannot celebrate you. Those who go down into the pit cannot have hope for your faithfulness.

The Bible calls it "captivity"

The captivity that Jesus led captive is not the souls of the righteous dead, it is that which captivates. Jesus sealed the devil's fate with his resurrection.

since the OT saints had to wait until the resurrection of Christ to go to the New Jerusalem.

The OT saints are dead, awaiting resurrection.

SOUL SLEEP IS TOTALLY, TOTALLY FALSE.

Soul sleep is a pejorative term coined by John Calvin because he believed as you do, that dead people are alive.

Abraham is in Heaven, with all the other OT saints

Abraham and all the other OT saints, and all the NT saints, in fact every person who has died is dead, awaiting one of the upcoming resurrections. The only exception is Jesus Christ (John 3:13).

-- the spirits of just men made perfect. And he will certainly be resurrected, but he is very much awake and alive with Christ.

If he is "very much awake and alive with Christ", there is no need for his resurrection.

While bodies die, souls and spirits are very much awake and alive

That is not true. See Job 7:21; 10:20-22; 14:12; Ps 6:5; 30:9; 49:12, 15; 88:11-12; 115:17; Ecc 9:4-6, 10; Isa 26:19; 38:18; Eze 37:12; Dan 12:2, 13; John 5:28-29.

And in order to support your false doctrine, you deny the reality of Luke 16.

In order to support your false doctrine, you believe Luke 16 is literal, and in doing so, you deny all the other scripture in the Bible that explain what death is.

You will remember our exchange of posts one day, Nehemiah.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

When you take out the added numbering yu can see the context of what is being said. Notice Spirit is capitilized because it is speaking of the Holy Spirit that quickened Him from the dead and by the Holy Spirit Chirst preached to those imprisoned spirits in the days of Noah. The key word is "also" so not only did the Holy Spirit quicken Him by which also He went and preached in the days of Noah., during the time of God's longsuffering with the people of the time of Noah while the ark was being built.

This is what I think it's saying (this is a pretty literal translation):

.... made alive in the spirit, in which [spirit] also he proclaimed to the imprisoned spirits being passed away, to the ones disbelieving when the patience of God once awaited the ark being constructed in the days of Noah, in which few—that is, eight souls—were saved through water. 1 Peter 3:18-20​

The word that I translated being passed away is πορεύομαι. In the ancient world this word was used to refer to the journeys of the dead to their final place in the hereafter. In Acts 1:25 it's used to say Judas went to his own place (after his death). Whether imprisoned spirits means now or then (like you said), I don't know.

 

[jb]

You can find a blog that I did Here on this subject...

 

[trofimus]

• View 1: When Noah was building the ark, Christ 'in spirit' was in Noah preaching repentance and righteousness through him to unbelievers who were on the earth then but are now 'spirits in prison' (people in hell)."
  
  
• "View 2: After Christ died, he went and preached to people in hell, offering them a second chance of salvation."
  
  
• "View 3: After Christ died, he went and preached to people in hell, proclaiming to them that he had triumphed over them and their condemnation was final."
  
  
• "View 4: After Christ died, he proclaimed release to people who had repented just before they died in the flood, and led them out of their imprisonment (in Purgatory) into heaven."
  
  
• "View 5: After Christ died (or: after he rose but before he ascended into heaven), he travelled to hell and proclaimed triumph over the fallen angels who had sinned by marrying human women before the flood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirits_in_prison