Well God forgive me, but you are just posting
I am so glad you kept yourself so civil in this discussion.
Are Roman Catholics Christians
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I am so glad you kept yourself so civil in this discussion.
None of that actually proves your premise. That Protestantism is Nihilistic. Nor that it was born out of Nihilism.
First I begin with the origin of the word itself;Nihilism, its root in the Latin, Nihil, "nothing" "nothing at all". The origin source of the word itself precludes a faith composite that espouses a higher power for faith, trust, and belief.
Etymological relationship of Nihilism:
nihilism (n.) https://www.etymonline.com/word/nihilism
1817, "the doctrine of negation" (in reference to religion or morals), from German Nihilismus, from Latin nihil "nothing at all" (see nil), coined by German philosopher Friedrich Heinrich Jacobi (1743-1819). In philosophy, an extreme form of skepticism (1836). The political sense was first used by German journalist Joseph von Görres (1776-1848). Turgenev used the Russian form of the word (nigilizm) in "Fathers and Children" (1862) and claimed to have invented it. With a capital N-, it refers to the Russian revolutionary anarchism of the period 1860-1917, supposedly so called because "nothing" that then existed found favor in their eyes.
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Catholics pray to the virgin Mary. They believe that the eucharist (wafer) becomes the body of Jesus and they are really eating the body of Jesus. And they pray to the eucharist.
Not really, I post definition and applying the definition to show you that Martin not devalued God, catholic is
I tried to watch youtube videos on the subject a few times and found them (the videos) to be as boring as existentialism. String theory is clearer so if you can explain it without sounding like Nitzche or Ayn Rand i'd love to hear it.
I get what you are saying. But that is not WHAT I am referring to.
The Nihilism I am using stems from Nietzsche, it is an expansion of his argument. Nihilism as the Devaluation of Values, and that the Devaluation of Values stems from the Death of God (which Nietzsche defined as the Highest Value). Heidegger picks up on this argument, as well as Gianni Vattimo and his argument of Nihilism and the Death of God.
I am making the argument about what caused the Death of God and how it took place within Europe. I use the word Nihilism as the Process of this Event. As I argued the Renaissance is the event that brought this about, which led to the Reformation. Martin Luther destroyed the Philosophical foundation of Europe, which led to the rise of The Enlightenment which was antitheological.
Nihilistic in this sense is the process of being created out of the process of the Devaluation of God within Europe. The Devaluation of God simply means the collective cultural Temporal Value of Society. God simply means, in this case, The Highest Value. When that value crashes that process is called Nihilism or devaluation.
You said in your last sentence :
When that value (value of God) crashes that process is called nihilism.
And it is happen when Catholic sale forgiveness certificate.
And when Martin protest, it was to brought back the value of God
My argument stems from trying to understand the Death of God. I argue that it is an event that is 3500 years in the making. But, concerning Europe and this thread, it starts with the Renaissance and what followed was the Reformation and then the Enlightenment. I argue that the Renaissance was created out of the Aristotelian Theology settled by Thomas Aquinas, and the reintroduction of Platonic philosophy from the scholars and philosophers from Constantinople. The devaluation comes into play when Martin Luther goes on a rampage against Aristotle and destroys the foundation that Europe spent a thousand years trying to resolve.
This has nothing at all to do with what I am arguing.
God in my argument, simply means The Highest Value. That Value being the Highest Value of European Culture. That stems from Nietzsche and his argument for the Death of God. Which may make this more sense if you were to read the Parable of the Madman by Nietzsche from the Gay Science.
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pjharrison
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John6:53 Jesus said to them, "very truly I tell , unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. This is where they get that from. The communion.
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pjharrison
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Read the book Not By Bread Alone by Robert Sugenis. He goes into detail as to the biblical origin of Catholic Communion.
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pjharrison
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I apologize if I have offended anyone, it was never my intention. I will try to be more humble and patient with people who disagree with me.
I do get frustrated at times, when some simple Bible teachings are unnecessarily complicated by other members. It seems deliberate sometimes, like they're trying to provoke me.
Thank you for the chastisement, it is appreciated.
So for you God mean highest value of European culture?
To me the highest value of any culture is Bible. Martin not destroyed Bible value, catholic is
And the verse go on He took a bread, not cut His hand,
It mean symbols, not actual flesh, or blood
I would have to greatly disagree on this! The religious system of Roman Catholicism with its pope and all its practices is anything but Biblical.
Marianism = The worship of Mary, which is actually queen of heaven worship that was transposed over from the false practices of Babylon.
Mother and son worship = which was also had its origins in false Babylonian practices and was transposed onto Mary and Jesus.
Transubstantiation = The ritual where the priest calls Christ out of heaven and supposedly enters into the eucharist, which retains its outer appearance, but its elements change into that of the literal flesh and blood of Christ.
Pantheon worship = When Constantine deemed Christianity as the official religion of Rome, all of the pagan practices which stemmed from Babylon came with it. The worship of many god's was transposed over to praying to the saints, which is still in operation with the RCC.
I could go into sacraments which are works based, as well as the teaching of purgatory and many other false teachings.
Roman Catholicism is the biggest false religious system on the planet, hiding right out in the open. That 82 ft. obelisk from Hierapolis Egypt that is standing out in the center of St. Peter's square should be giant red flag of what the RCC stands for.
She is, Mystery, Babylon the great. And she will gain the power and authority that she graves once that antichrist is revealed, with one of her future popes playing the part of the false prophet.
Roman Catholic teachings have no Biblical basis.