I answer questions. (Seeker of truth.)
- Thread starter JaminG
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
I know what you mean, I thought the same. But the reality is that there are several ways to do this. The first and most important is the progressive selective impaction neuroconnectors. In plain words, introduce nanorobots in your brain that will gradually replace your neurons. The other is through what the Second Gate carries. It's about creating a link between you and a complete immersive virtual reality, then reintroducing yourself into another body. All this I say is already being done and is funded by the United Nations.
http://2045.com/ y http://gf2045.com/
Those who obtain death will live. Those who seek life, will die.
Those who obtain death will live. Those who seek life, will die.
I see that atheists are not different from false Christians. Two criticisms and none of them without foundation, or arguments. I have done my job. Get to read a little and investigate. I prefer to use my life learning, rather than be a happy ignorant. I hope that one day I can refute what I say with some argument.
"And this is that testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life." - 1 John 5:11-13
The above does not support that the gathering of the church will take place in 2045. Your not going to figure the timing of that event using any method of Numerology.
The above is true and that because we can read it. We know according to Dan.9:27 that there is one seven year period left. And we know that there will be a group that will become believers after the church has been gathered known as the great tribulation saints who the beast will persecute. However, though the first 3 1/2 years may be peace regarding the antichrist and Israel, God's wrath will be in operation during the entire seven years via the seals, trumpets and ending with the bowl judgments, as well as the plagues that the two witnesses bring upon the earth. In fact, the revealing of the antichrist is represented by the rider of the white horse at the opening of the first seal. The middle of the seven years is marked by the antichrist setting up the abomination which causes the desolation when Israel flees out into the desert to that place prepared for her by God during the last 3.5 years.
The above does not support that the gathering of the church will take place in 2045. Your not going to figure the timing of that event using any method of Numerology.
The above is true and that because we can read it. We know according to Dan.9:27 that there is one seven year period left. And we know that there will be a group that will become believers after the church has been gathered known as the great tribulation saints who the beast will persecute. However, though the first 3 1/2 years may be peace regarding the antichrist and Israel, God's wrath will be in operation during the entire seven years via the seals, trumpets and ending with the bowl judgments, as well as the plagues that the two witnesses bring upon the earth. In fact, the revealing of the antichrist is represented by the rider of the white horse at the opening of the first seal. The middle of the seven years is marked by the antichrist setting up the abomination which causes the desolation when Israel flees out into the desert to that place prepared for her by God during the last 3.5 years.
-
2
- Show all
First of all, I thank you for arguing in detail to be able to defend me.
1º So that you may obtain eternal life, before you must be born again, Jesus said that. AND NOBODY is born again yet. There is a Christian belief that in order to be born again one must have faith again and that is enough. It is not like this. To be born again is to repent as it says in the messages to the churches in the apocalypse and then, after the Great Schism that will happen in the Church, to be born again of water and meat, in a rebaptism.
2nd I never said to take 2045 using numerology. I'm just saying, that the rapture should be before 2045 because that year is the singularity, and, this is a really traumatic event. Inform yourself
3º Here I agree with you. Nothing to object.
1º So that you may obtain eternal life, before you must be born again, Jesus said that. AND NOBODY is born again yet. There is a Christian belief that in order to be born again one must have faith again and that is enough. It is not like this. To be born again is to repent as it says in the messages to the churches in the apocalypse and then, after the Great Schism that will happen in the Church, to be born again of water and meat, in a rebaptism.
2nd I never said to take 2045 using numerology. I'm just saying, that the rapture should be before 2045 because that year is the singularity, and, this is a really traumatic event. Inform yourself
3º Here I agree with you. Nothing to object.
[QUOTE = "Ahwatukee, publicación: 3626011, miembro: 216503"] "Y este es el testimonio: Dios nos ha dado la vida eterna, y esta vida está en su Hijo. El que tiene al Hijo tiene vida, el que no tiene el Hijo de Dios no tiene vida. Les escribo estas cosas a ustedes que creen en el nombre del Hijo de Dios para que sepan que tienen vida eterna ". - 1 Juan 5: 11-13
Lo anterior no respalda que la reunión de la iglesia tenga lugar en 2045. Tu no vas a calcular el tiempo de ese evento usando ningún método de Numerología.
Lo anterior es cierto y eso porque podemos leerlo. Sabemos de acuerdo con Dan.9: 27 que queda un período de siete años. Y sabemos que habrá un grupo que se convertirá en creyente después de que se haya reunido a la iglesia conocida como los santos de la gran tribulación que la bestia perseguirá. Sin embargo, aunque los primeros 3 1/2 años pueden ser paz con respecto al anticristo e Israel, la ira de Dios estará en operación durante los siete años completos a través de los sellos, trompetas y terminando con los juicios de los cuencos, así como las plagas que los dos los testigos traen sobre la tierra. De hecho, la revelación del anticristo está representada por el jinete del caballo blanco en la apertura del primer sello.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_made_by_Ray_Kurzweil#The_Singularity_is_Near_(2005)
Lo anterior no respalda que la reunión de la iglesia tenga lugar en 2045. Tu no vas a calcular el tiempo de ese evento usando ningún método de Numerología.
Lo anterior es cierto y eso porque podemos leerlo. Sabemos de acuerdo con Dan.9: 27 que queda un período de siete años. Y sabemos que habrá un grupo que se convertirá en creyente después de que se haya reunido a la iglesia conocida como los santos de la gran tribulación que la bestia perseguirá. Sin embargo, aunque los primeros 3 1/2 años pueden ser paz con respecto al anticristo e Israel, la ira de Dios estará en operación durante los siete años completos a través de los sellos, trompetas y terminando con los juicios de los cuencos, así como las plagas que los dos los testigos traen sobre la tierra. De hecho, la revelación del anticristo está representada por el jinete del caballo blanco en la apertura del primer sello.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_made_by_Ray_Kurzweil#The_Singularity_is_Near_(2005)
Hello LPT,
Just fyi, none of the scriptures that you provided above identify John as the man who ran away naked. John 19:25-27 is not linked to Jesus arrest in Gethsemane, but only demonstrates that John was there at Christ's crucifixion.
The best candidate of who the young man was would be Peter, for it states that after the Lord's arrest that Peter followed them at a distance.
Just fyi, none of the scriptures that you provided above identify John as the man who ran away naked. John 19:25-27 is not linked to Jesus arrest in Gethsemane, but only demonstrates that John was there at Christ's crucifixion.
The best candidate of who the young man was would be Peter, for it states that after the Lord's arrest that Peter followed them at a distance.
-
1
- Show all
The reason you have given above still does not prove anything. The Lord's coming for the church has always been imminent and cannot be ascertained by singularities and any thing else. We know that the His appearing is near because we can see the stage being set for the events that are to take place after the church is gone.
I guessed you missed it, so here it is again, proof that believers can know that they have eternal life, if they continue in their faith:
"And this is that testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life." - 1 John 5:11-13
Notice that the scripture above does not say "maybe you can know" or "you might be able to know, but it says "that you may know that you have eternal life."
I guessed you missed it, so here it is again, proof that believers can know that they have eternal life, if they continue in their faith:
"And this is that testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life." - 1 John 5:11-13
Notice that the scripture above does not say "maybe you can know" or "you might be able to know, but it says "that you may know that you have eternal life."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
2045: The Singularity[edit]
You and Kurzwel have been watching too many Terminator movies. Though science and technology have been increased, just as prophesied, the word of God has a different scenario as to how the end of the age is going to come about.
Very soon now, the Lord is going to appear and remove His church and not because of this singularity, but because we can see the stage being set for the events that take place after the church has been gathered. Shortly after that, the antichrist will establish his seven year covenant with Israel and Islam, making it possible for Israel to build her temple on the temple mount. Then according to Dan.9:27, the antichrist/beast will set up that abomination and at that time will proclaim himself to be God or anything that is called God or worshiped. It is during this last 3.5 years that the beast is given authority to make war against the saints, where at the end of that 3.5 years, Jesus will return to end the age and establish his millennial kingdom. Once the wrath of God begins via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, the majority of the population will be decimated and all human government will be dismantled in preparation for the Lord's millennial kingdom.
2045: The Singularity[edit]
- $1000 buys a computer a billion times more intelligent than every human combined. This means that average and even low-end computers are vastly smarter than even highly intelligent, unenhanced humans.
- The technological singularity occurs as artificial intelligences surpass human beings as the smartest and most capable life forms on the Earth. Technological development is taken over by the machines, who can think, act and communicate so quickly that normal humans cannot even comprehend what is going on. The machines enter into a "runaway reaction" of self-improvement cycles, with each new generation of A.I.s appearing faster and faster. From this point onwards, technological advancement is explosive, under the control of the machines, and thus cannot be accurately predicted (hence the term "Singularity").
- The Singularity is an extremely disruptive, world-altering event that forever changes the course of human history. The extermination of humanity by violent machines is unlikely (though not impossible) because sharp distinctions between man and machine will no longer exist thanks to the existence of cybernetically enhanced humans and uploaded humans.
You and Kurzwel have been watching too many Terminator movies. Though science and technology have been increased, just as prophesied, the word of God has a different scenario as to how the end of the age is going to come about.
Very soon now, the Lord is going to appear and remove His church and not because of this singularity, but because we can see the stage being set for the events that take place after the church has been gathered. Shortly after that, the antichrist will establish his seven year covenant with Israel and Islam, making it possible for Israel to build her temple on the temple mount. Then according to Dan.9:27, the antichrist/beast will set up that abomination and at that time will proclaim himself to be God or anything that is called God or worshiped. It is during this last 3.5 years that the beast is given authority to make war against the saints, where at the end of that 3.5 years, Jesus will return to end the age and establish his millennial kingdom. Once the wrath of God begins via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, the majority of the population will be decimated and all human government will be dismantled in preparation for the Lord's millennial kingdom.
