Not By Works
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The discussion is persecution.
If while under persecution from one antichrist hate group or another, it matters not, a person is persuaded to renounce or deny Christ, then they have returned to unbelieving.
He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving,
and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire...
7 He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. 8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”Revelation 21:7-8
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It’s sad you deny the very truth that can save you.
The promise of salvation is to those who believe and continue in the faith to the end.
21 And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight— 23 if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.
Colossians 1:21-23
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The promise of salvation is to those who believe and continue in the faith to the end.
- if indeed you continue in the faith,
21 And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight— 23 if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.
Colossians 1:21-23
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your ignorance is showing j...
more misunderstanding from you
EVERYONES name is in the book of life
those who get blotted out are unbelievers at judgement
because they will be deemed as sinners not having the imputed righteousness of Jesus
exodus 32
33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
more misunderstanding from you
EVERYONES name is in the book of life
those who get blotted out are unbelievers at judgement
because they will be deemed as sinners not having the imputed righteousness of Jesus
exodus 32
33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
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Remaining steadfast does not mean holding onto salvation. Being steadfast equals staying in God Word and growing in order to have an answer when asked, not being mislead by "false doctrine" and holding onto the hope which is our eternal salvation and not being led astray by someone spewing forth the false teaching that we can lose what only God and the Holy Spirit can secure.
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whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law for sin is the transgression of the law
if you fail the law at any point youre guilty of all
no flesh shall be justified by the works of the law
Jesus is the way and the truth
.... God did a wonderful job preserving His word
regardless of those who attempt to pervert it or cannot understand it
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Blot out of the book of life is to be removed.
Very clear.
He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. Revelation 3:5
7 He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. 8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
Revelation 21:7-8
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you think the 7 candlesticks represent bundles of salvation that are taken away?
no.
they represent the churches
your false gospel doesnt hold up to any sort of biblical standards
Revelation 2
2 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
To ephesus specifically- an actual church
this is what HE (Jesus) says
to the 7 candlesticks which are the 7 churches
BENS ANTI-GRACE GOSPEL - 0
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ben claims these verses are about born again believers losing salvation
ben claims many verses "destroy" eternal security
ben has yet to post one
no.
they represent the churches
your false gospel doesnt hold up to any sort of biblical standards
Revelation 2
2 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
To ephesus specifically- an actual church
this is what HE (Jesus) says
to the 7 candlesticks which are the 7 churches
BENS ANTI-GRACE GOSPEL - 0
TRUTH - 1
^^^^^^^
ben claims these verses are about born again believers losing salvation
ben claims many verses "destroy" eternal security
ben has yet to post one
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You learn the difference between those who believe and immediately are saved, and those who believe and are not immediately saved. Which is it. You have preached for months that the second someone believes they are saved. Now because justpassinthrough has shown you that someone who believes can lose their salvation, you are scrambling to another truth. Now you say, just because you believe does not save you. Wow, geesh, wow. What is it?
Did John 3:16 just get ripped out of the bible?
Did John 3:16 just get ripped out of the bible?