Did Dinosaurs exist?

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7seasrekeyed

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Words have meaning attached to them. I think dinosaurs still exist. Most of the larger have gone extinct. Most like food supply . Cost more to feed a elephant than a mouse or a ant . They will be around for a while

The word "dinosaur" is derived from Greek words; it loosely translates as "terrible lizard" from the root words "deinos," meaning "terrible" or "fearfully great," and "sauros," meaning "lizard" or "reptile.".

Even the little ones like Gila Monsters they are fearfully great.



 

Joseppi

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Show me where God said that death entered the Earth (the planet as such) when man sin (sic).
Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Romans 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
Romans 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travail etc in pain together until now.
Romans 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
 

OneFaith

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It depends on what you mean by dinosaurs. Some animals we have today are considered dinosaurs: elephants, crocodiles, kimono dragons, all birds, etc. There are some animals that have gone extinct, so who knows? I do know one thing, nothing, such as dinosaurs, existed billions of years before humans, including the earth itself- which is less than 15,000 years old if you add up the genealogy from Adam to Christ, and from Christ to now.
 

trofimus

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It depends on what you mean by dinosaurs. Some animals we have today are considered dinosaurs: elephants, crocodiles, kimono dragons, all birds, etc. There are some animals that have gone extinct, so who knows? I do know one thing, nothing, such as dinosaurs, existed billions of years before humans, including the earth itself- which is less than 15,000 years old if you add up the genealogy from Adam to Christ, and from Christ to now.
Actually, no. Elephants, crocodiles, birds etc are not considered dinosaurs. Dinosaurs were special species.

Birds are considered to be descendants of dinosaurs.
 

trofimus

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Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Romans 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
Romans 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travail etc in pain together until now.
Romans 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
There is nothing about sin being the reason for creation´s subjection to vanity.

Actually, material bodies are the reason for the vanity. Therefore creation must be transformed to spiritual creation, the redemption of the body, as verse 23 says.
 

Nauga

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And so, the age-old debate gets kick-started once more.

I thoroughly enjoyed my visit to the Royal Tyrrell Museum in Alberta, Canada. If you are ever in Calgary, it's worth a day-trip. For those who don't know, it is the premiere dinosaur museum in Canada, and probably one of the best in the world.
They have an amazing display.
 

OneFaith

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Actually, no. Elephants, crocodiles, birds etc are not considered dinosaurs. Dinosaurs were special species.

Birds are considered to be descendants of dinosaurs.
Well I heard that from a paleontologist (dinosaur scientist).
 

Joseppi

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There is nothing about sin being the reason for creation´s subjection to vanity.

Actually, material bodies are the reason for the vanity. Therefore creation must be transformed to spiritual creation, the redemption of the body, as verse 23 says.
The cause of corruption is transgression of the laws of God.
The whole creation is subject to the laws of God.
And the whole creation scientifically evidences corruption.
And God states that corruption of all creatures brought on the judgment of the flood of Noah.
Anyway it was plainly stated in the Romans quote.

That, the whole creation is subject to the same corruption as man.

For me it’s fascinating to observe the accuracy of the scripture scientifically.
 

trofimus

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The cause of corruption is transgression of the laws of God.
The whole creation is subject to the laws of God.
And the whole creation scientifically evidences corruption.
And God states that corruption of all creatures brought on the judgment of the flood of Noah.
Anyway it was plainly stated in the Romans quote.

That, the whole creation is subject to the same corruption as man.

For me it’s fascinating to observe the accuracy of the scripture scientifically.
"Corruption" is an ambiguous word.

It can mean moral corruption (sin, like in the times of Noah) or it can mean the fact that everything material is being destroyed in time, like our bodies.

Our bodies have to be transformed to spiritual ones to be brought from corruption to eternity.
 

OneFaith

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Elephant is even mammal. Your paleontologist seems to be a strange guy.
He's not my paleontologist lol, he was on tv. It doesn't matter about the animals, my point is that nothing existed on earth billions of years before humans. God made birds and fish on day 5 and humans and land animals on day 6- the same day.
 
#53
Dinosaurs never existed ...
the history of the dinosaurs ... is a myth - a mythology ...

Dinosaurs are a fantastic devising ....of atheist people...
their perpose is... to bit the credibility of The Holy Bible....
dinosaurs dont ''exisist'' in The Holy Bible...
The Holy Bible does not say anything about dinosaurs...

Noah introduced in the Ark...all animals....noone dinosaur was in the ark of Noah...

if GOD had created dinosaurs...then...for sure...GOD should create them...in His wisdom...
that means...the teeth of dinosaours....
shoulded be...perfect created...
shoulded be...suitable teeth ... for smooth chewing of food ...
but if we observe carefully the teeth of the dinosaurs in the fotos of the museums...
we will see their teeth...to be...unnormal...all their teeth are bicuspids...no molar...

the lie of those lier atheist...is revealded...is obvious...
 

Dino246

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Dinosaurs never existed ...
the history of the dinosaurs ... is a myth - a mythology ...

Dinosaurs are a fantastic devising ....of atheist people...
their perpose is... to bit the credibility of The Holy Bible....
dinosaurs dont ''exisist'' in The Holy Bible...
The Holy Bible does not say anything about dinosaurs...

Noah introduced in the Ark...all animals....noone dinosaur was in the ark of Noah...

if GOD had created dinosaurs...then...for sure...GOD should create them...in His wisdom...
that means...the teeth of dinosaours....
shoulded be...perfect created...
shoulded be...suitable teeth ... for smooth chewing of food ...
but if we observe carefully the teeth of the dinosaurs in the fotos of the museums...
we will see their teeth...to be...unnormal...all their teeth are bicuspids...no molar...

the lie of those lier atheist...is revealded...is obvious...
Your fearful closed-mindedness is concerning. Do you suffer from agoraphobia and xenophobia as well?
 

OneFaith

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Dinosaurs never existed ...
the history of the dinosaurs ... is a myth - a mythology ...

Dinosaurs are a fantastic devising ....of atheist people...
their perpose is... to bit the credibility of The Holy Bible....
dinosaurs dont ''exisist'' in The Holy Bible...
The Holy Bible does not say anything about dinosaurs...

Noah introduced in the Ark...all animals....noone dinosaur was in the ark of Noah...

if GOD had created dinosaurs...then...for sure...GOD should create them...in His wisdom...
that means...the teeth of dinosaours....
shoulded be...perfect created...
shoulded be...suitable teeth ... for smooth chewing of food ...
but if we observe carefully the teeth of the dinosaurs in the fotos of the museums...
we will see their teeth...to be...unnormal...all their teeth are bicuspids...no molar...

the lie of those lier atheist...is revealded...is obvious...
It is possible that it is the delusion that God put in the earth to test whether we would listen to mankind instead of God- Who said He created all within a week. If God can create complete animals He is certainly capable of creating only the bones.
 

Dino246

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It is possible that it is the delusion that God put in the earth to test whether we would listen to mankind instead of God- Who said He created all within a week. If God can create complete animals He is certainly capable of creating only the bones.
While I don't doubt God's ability to create "only the bones", I think that is inherently dishonest and inconsistent with the character of God. Further, fossils of modern humans have been found, sufficiently debunking the idea that fossils are specifically created as such. It is entirely possible that the dinosaur fossils that are found are remnants of actual creatures that existed at the time of Noah's flood.
 
#57
Your fearful closed-mindedness is concerning. Do you suffer from agoraphobia and xenophobia as well?


These liar atheists
to make their fantastic animals (dinosaurs)...
more fearfull to the people...
and so...to sell more tickets in the museums...and more books...

(likewise...a dog shows its bicuspids to become more fearfull)...
they did... their ''fantastic'' animals - dinosurs...more terrible...having... only...bicuspids....

they did not think...that...their lie...will be...revealded...obvious....
 

posthuman

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Just like how Jesus was able to bypass the aging process when He turned water into wine :)

I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham!
(Matthew 3:9)

would the stones turn into gametes or embryos and naturally age from there, would they just be translated into fully formed humans instantly, would they progress from dust into amino acids into simple machines into living things over billions of human years?
time doesn't restrict Him; He does as He wills. a poet said, 'all things are just words You chose to speak'
:)
 

posthuman

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Science makes the assumption that the laws of nature we have now is always true.
i sometimes wonder if entropy existed before sin entered the world
 

posthuman

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It is possible that it is the delusion that God put in the earth to test whether we would listen to mankind instead of God- Who said He created all within a week. If God can create complete animals He is certainly capable of creating only the bones.
it's also written that His eternal qualities are clearly seen by what is made.

deception isn't one of His eternal qualities; to buy the idea that He created the remains of creatures that never existed in order to see if we'd be tricked by them i'd have to believe He authored lies and buried them in the earth.