Oh goody another OSAS thread!

[justpassinthrough]

Your right

Those who are his children will be tried and rewarded or suffer loss

Those who are not his children will be delivered to him for final judgment and will suffer eternal death rev 20

Now stop excusing your sin while judging others

I haven't judged anyone. I just posted what the scriptures say.


The loss will be our eternal soul.

or Eternal life.

• eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;

God who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath, Romans 2:6-8




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[eternally-gratefull]

You seem to have a discontent with His words.

No one by-passes the judgement seat of Christ, as we all will be judged according to our deeds.

• those who have done good, to the resurrection of life

Omg dude, get over yourself.

When did i deny that passage? I agreed, those who are saved will do good, and these people will be ressurected. But not for the rrason you said,

You cant get past 1 cor 3, where it says even hose who are left with no reward are saved.

Your like the pharisee, and bcause of it can not see christ

 

[justpassinthrough]

I agreed, those who are saved will do good, and these people will be ressurected. But not for the rrason you said,

Those who do good will be saved.

• eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;

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[justpassinthrough]

Omg dude, get over yourself.

When did i deny that passage? I agreed, those who are saved will do good, and these people will be ressurected. But not for the rrason you said,

You cant get past 1 cor 3, where it says even hose who are left with no reward are saved.

Your like the pharisee, and bcause of it can not see christ

You would have to actually post the scripture, not just some misspelled words that are your opinion.

• eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;

God who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath, Romans 2:6-8






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[eternally-gratefull]

I haven't judged anyone. I just posted what the scriptures say.


The loss will be our eternal soul.

or Eternal life.

• eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;

God who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath, Romans 2:6-8




JPT

Then god lied, bcause he said whoever believes will Never die, and HAS eternal life

If eternal life can be lost GOD LIED

And again, same thing, those are descriptive passages, just like 1john, where he said whoever sins has never seen or known God, and whoever is born of god can not sin.

You have been exposed dude, no one will buy your self centered gospel anymore, unless they are like you

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Those who do good will be saved.

• eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;

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Good luck dude, take your self righteous crap elswhere.

2 john said those born of god can not sin, thats means THEY are the ones who DO GOOD,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You would have to actually post the scripture, not just some misspelled words that are your opinion.

• eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;

God who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath, Romans 2:6-8






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1 cor 3: For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone’s work which he has built on itendures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he will be saved, even as through fire!

 

[Cee]

I haven't judged anyone. I just posted what the scriptures say.


The loss will be our eternal soul.

or Eternal life.

• eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;

God who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath, Romans 2:6-8




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"God who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath, Romans 2:6-8"

This Scripture is Paul showing their need for Christ. If God is rendering us according to our deeds, why did Christ come? We are rendered eternal life according to His deeds. We already have it. Or more correctly, "Him".

That's why Christ could say this:

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you that the one hearing My word and believing the One having sent Me, he has eternal life and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You would have to actually post the scripture, not just some misspelled words that are your opinion.

• eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;

God who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath, Romans 2:6-8






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Oh and by the way, that is the second time you lied about me not posting scripture

And i do not have to post scripture when i agree with the scripture in question. Keep it up you will be reported.



I have no respect for slanderers

 

[Ralph-]

You keep preaching works will save you from hell, you will find out one day the truth, that we are saved by grace, by mercy, through faith, not of ourselves, period

Learn the difference before its too late,

We are saved through LIVING faith, not by dead faith.

Faith without works attached (dead faith) can not save you. Only faith with works attached will save you. You can not be saved by a faith that you will not walk in. That is what it means to be saved by works without it meaning those works justify you or earn your salvation.

 

[Cee]

We are saved through LIVING faith, not by dead faith.

Faith without works attached (dead faith) can not save you. Only faith with works attached will save you. You can not be saved by a faith that you will not walk in. That is what it means to be saved by works without it meaning those works justify you or earn your salvation.

The Scripture you are quoting is James 2:17.

Looking at chapter 1,2 and the context, which works would you agree James is discussing here?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

We are saved through LIVING faith, not by dead faith.

Faith without works attached (dead faith) can not save you. Only faith with works attached will save you. You can not be saved by a faith that you will not walk in. That is what it means to be saved by works without it meaning those works justify you or earn your salvation.

There is no such thing as faith without works

You do not trust someone, then never do anything they say.

 

[SpoonJuly]

We are saved through LIVING faith, not by dead faith.

Faith without works attached (dead faith) can not save you. Only faith with works attached will save you. You can not be saved by a faith that you will not walk in. That is what it means to be saved by works without it meaning those works justify you or earn your salvation.

You continue trying to earn your salvation by your works and you will split Hell wide open.
I have put my faith in Jesus, and Jesus alone.

 

[justpassinthrough]

Then god lied, bcause he said whoever believes will Never die, and HAS eternal life

If eternal life can be lost GOD LIED

And again, same thing, those are descriptive passages, just like 1john, where he said whoever sins has never seen or known God, and whoever is born of god can not sin.

You have been exposed dude, no one will buy your self centered gospel anymore, unless they are like you

• those who have done good, to the resurrection of life
• those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.

28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.
John 5:28-29



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[justpassinthrough]

"God who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath, Romans 2:6-8"

This Scripture is Paul showing their need for Christ. If God is rendering us according to our deeds, why did Christ come? We are rendered eternal life according to His deeds. We already have it. Or more correctly, "Him".

That's why Christ could say this:

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you that the one hearing My word and believing the One having sent Me, he has eternal life and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

Read on Brother.


28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.
John 5:28-29

• those who have done good, to the resurrection of life
• those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.

Paul learned his doctrine from Christ.



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[Ralph-]

Surely you don't think that there is a law that states women will be saved into eternal life by bearing children?

And surely I don't, lol.

Women who don't walk in the godly obedience associated with the role of womanhood/motherhood have a dead faith that can not save them (they have denied the faith---see 1 Timothy 5:8). And so that is how women who do walk in that obedience are saved by their works without those works earning their salvation. They have a living faith--the faith that justifies/saves.

 

[justpassinthrough]

1 cor 3: For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone’s work which he has built on itendures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he will be saved, even as through fire!

Looks like you didn't quit read far enough.

• If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him.

12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are. 1 Corinthians 3:12-17



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[justpassinthrough]

There is no such thing as faith without works

You do not trust someone, then never do anything they say.

Many Christians are living just like that.


No obedience to live as Christ Jesus as their Lord.



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[Ralph-]

eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;

a.k.a living faith. The faith that saves.

 

[PS]

An unbeliever was never saved.
A person can believe jesus lived, he died in a cross, even have knowledge he rose from the dead, and as such, they have knowledge of the lord, it does not mean the KNOW JESUS on a personal level, like his children do, as james said, even domons believe (know) yet tremble
Knowledge is worthless apart from faith,

Of course an unbeliever is never saved. It goes without saying. Why ever someone should post scriptures about unbelievers in defence of apostasy is beyond belief!