GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?
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Acts 15 calls it "the Law of Moses" yes
tbh i thought about it, and decided you might attack the phrase, saying it wasn't Moses who wrote the Law ((though we all know that)) and that it might steer off needless bickering by making it clear what we're talking about. i was not successful in that endeavour ;p
but "the Law of Moses" is the Law of a covenant ((re: Exodus 27:21, Exodus 31:7, Exodus 31:18, Numbers 1:53, Numbers 17:4, Leviticus 24:3, Deuteronomy 4:13, Deuteronomy 5:2, Deuteronomy 29:1, Psalm 78:10, Hosea 8:1, etc))
and that Covenant was certainly made at Sinai:
what's the context of this part of Galatians 4? what's the apostle writing by the breath of God about?
"the Law" -- a Law of a covenant, made at Sinai, which bears children to be slaves.
the same, given through Moses ((Re: John 1:17, John 7:19, Galatians 3:17, Exodus-Deuteronomy))
"Sinai" and "Covenant" and "Law" are in fact, the Bible's words.
which of this is in dispute?
and btw, does the Bible say anything about the usefulness of "arguing over words" ?
maybe in 2 Timothy 2:14 . . ?
tbh i thought about it, and decided you might attack the phrase, saying it wasn't Moses who wrote the Law ((though we all know that)) and that it might steer off needless bickering by making it clear what we're talking about. i was not successful in that endeavour ;p
but "the Law of Moses" is the Law of a covenant ((re: Exodus 27:21, Exodus 31:7, Exodus 31:18, Numbers 1:53, Numbers 17:4, Leviticus 24:3, Deuteronomy 4:13, Deuteronomy 5:2, Deuteronomy 29:1, Psalm 78:10, Hosea 8:1, etc))
and that Covenant was certainly made at Sinai:
One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves
(Galatians 4:24)
what's the context of this part of Galatians 4? what's the apostle writing by the breath of God about?
Tell me, you who want to be under the Law, are you not aware of what the Law says?
(Galatians 4:21)
"the Law" -- a Law of a covenant, made at Sinai, which bears children to be slaves.
the same, given through Moses ((Re: John 1:17, John 7:19, Galatians 3:17, Exodus-Deuteronomy))
"Sinai" and "Covenant" and "Law" are in fact, the Bible's words.
which of this is in dispute?
and btw, does the Bible say anything about the usefulness of "arguing over words" ?
maybe in 2 Timothy 2:14 . . ?
David lost his son over his sin, was humiliated in front of Israel.
13 And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.
14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.
David paid a great price for his sin. You didn't mention that. Men have used David as an excuse to disobey God's Laws ever since, just as Nathan said they would. And it is continues to this day.
13 And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.
14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.
David paid a great price for his sin. You didn't mention that. Men have used David as an excuse to disobey God's Laws ever since, just as Nathan said they would. And it is continues to this day.
"Be ye perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect". With the Word which became Flesh to guide my "Walk", and give me strength in the times of weakness, I have Faith He will finish what He started. As long as I am not snared by those who call Him, Lord, Lord, but do not what He says, I believe I can "endure to the end". I'm not sure what post you refer to that I ever said I could make into heaven another way.
If you could show the post where I implied that I could give myself eternal life, I would appreciate you showing me.
If you could show the post where I implied that I could give myself eternal life, I would appreciate you showing me.
I don't tell anyone they must do anything to be saved, you will also not find a post where I have said this. I do believe in the Bibles instruction though, and share them with others. I believe the Word which became Flesh created His Sabbath for me as He said. He also Declares to be "Lord of the Sabbath", and the Word which became Flesh said it was a sign between Him and His People. Therefore I, personally, don't reject it. But as Paul said, "let each person by convinced in their own mind".
Agree with you SM....we do not tell others what they must do but we exhort them to walk with Christ and be obedient to HIM the AUTHOR of our SALVATION Heb 5v9. There is only ONE Lord of the Sabbath who is truly the same yesterday, today and forever who can save us ....NONE of the other false christs who have found their way into christianity to deceive MANY....but the choice is theirs....free to go any way they like - but there are consequences !
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What I mean is this: The Law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise.
(Galatians 3:17)
(Galatians 3:17)
four laws mentioned here:
To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law though not being myself under the Law, so that I might win those who are under the Law; to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, so that I might win those who are without law.
(1 Corinthians 9:20-21)
"the Law" -- obvious reference to the one given to Israel as the terms of the covenant made with them at Sinai
"law" -- sic, 'without law' -- regulation in abstract sense, non-specific
"the law of God" -- clearly not identical to the Law of Moses, as Paul is not under 'the Law' but is under 'the law of God'
"the law of Christ" -- the one that the apostle is actually under, includes him in 'the law of God' while he is simultaneously not under 'the Law' being free either to act as though he is under Moses or not to
re: "law of faith / law of works"
((it must be noted again, scripture does not break and separate "the Law" into parts like human tradition does. there is no Biblical basis for such a view, see for ex. Deut. 4:5, 4:13-14 -- it is one covenant, and one Law))
The Law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, "The person who does these things will live by them."
(Galatians 3:12)
(Galatians 3:12)
"the Law" is singular here. Paul ((and no one else in the Bible)) ever talks about the Law of Moses / Sinai / covenant given in the wilderness as though it is separable components.
that Law -- the whole Law -- is not based on faith. it is a law of works: "the one who does these things will live by them"
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