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Noah's Ark is very illustrative of our salvation and our assurance of salvation, everyone in the Ark returned safely to yonder distant shores. The promises of the Lord are "sure"
2Corinthians1:20-22 - Assurance of Salvation
20) For no matter how many promises God has made, they are “Yes” in Christ. And so through him the “Amen” is spoken by us to the glory of God.
21) Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us,
22} set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
God bless!
2Corinthians1:20-22 - Assurance of Salvation
20) For no matter how many promises God has made, they are “Yes” in Christ. And so through him the “Amen” is spoken by us to the glory of God.
21) Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us,
22} set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
God bless!
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What Jesus has prepared for us and our bodies that are suitable for eternity will be absolutely amazing. Yes we can eat fish or not eat fish. We will no longer be subject to the effects of the curse, paradise restored, not fully yet.
36) While they were still talking about this, Jesus himself stood among them and said to them, “Peace be with you.”
37) They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost.
38) He said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds?
39) Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”
40) When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet.
41) And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, “Do you have anything here to eat?”
42) They gave him a piece of broiled fish,
43) and he took it and ate it in their presence.
45) Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures.
Jesus Appears to the Disciples36) While they were still talking about this, Jesus himself stood among them and said to them, “Peace be with you.”
37) They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost.
38) He said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds?
39) Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”
40) When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet.
41) And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, “Do you have anything here to eat?”
42) They gave him a piece of broiled fish,
43) and he took it and ate it in their presence.
45) Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures.
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Our current bodies are made alive by soul (nephesh), just like animals.
Gen 1:
21) And God created great whales, and every living creature (nephesh) that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 2:
7) And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul (nephesh).
No.
1 Cor 15:
42) So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43) It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
We will get our spiritual bodies when Jesus Christ returns.
Gen 1:
21) And God created great whales, and every living creature (nephesh) that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 2:
7) And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul (nephesh).
No.
1 Cor 15:
42) So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43) It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
We will get our spiritual bodies when Jesus Christ returns.
One who has GOD's LOVE poured into His Heart, WILL LOVE those kind of good works. I remember when I was in the Prison Ministry, I was excited to be about the LORD's work. My wife said one time as I got home from the Prison, "I love to see you coming through the door, because you are almost as if you are walking six inches off the floor."
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Hi Vco, yes God's love is our motivator.
The problem with benhurs fictional story is no Christian will ever have the mind set that ministry or works is a burden, it just will not happen. He loves to invent fictional stories which will never ever happen. And then tell you that if you have these thoughts then "maybe" this fictional character was never really saved to start with.
Its all fiction and all what if, what if, what if, and it drives me crazy, complete nonsense.
The problem with benhurs fictional story is no Christian will ever have the mind set that ministry or works is a burden, it just will not happen. He loves to invent fictional stories which will never ever happen. And then tell you that if you have these thoughts then "maybe" this fictional character was never really saved to start with.
Its all fiction and all what if, what if, what if, and it drives me crazy, complete nonsense.
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one of the most common ridiculous arguments against Gods promise of eternal security to all who believe is
"If you believe in eternal security you believe you can sin all you want"
that completely ignores the new God given heart and quickened spirit... it is a very worldly way to think to suggest such a thing
a saved born again believer is now a new creature
an adopted son/daughter of God
when they act according to the flesh that doesnt register "im doing what i want and getting away with it"
it registers as "failure"
and God chastens His own children
we want to walk according to the spirit and NOT the flesh at ALL points
but when we do sin
it is a failure
not "what we want"
thank you so much Jesus for being my advocate
i know i have no power to save myself
one of the most common ridiculous arguments against Gods promise of eternal security to all who believe is
"If you believe in eternal security you believe you can sin all you want"
that completely ignores the new God given heart and quickened spirit... it is a very worldly way to think to suggest such a thing
a saved born again believer is now a new creature
an adopted son/daughter of God
when they act according to the flesh that doesnt register "im doing what i want and getting away with it"
it registers as "failure"
and God chastens His own children
we want to walk according to the spirit and NOT the flesh at ALL points
but when we do sin
it is a failure
not "what we want"
thank you so much Jesus for being my advocate
i know i have no power to save myself
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