Not By Works
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Nope he doesnt,
You are mixing up posters and who said what,
No everyone who claims to be Christian are. Only the ones God has given His holy spirit to.
People may be at a different maturity level but God works His fruit in the hearts of His children, He chastens us when we wander away from His path.He gives us love and comfort when we feel discouraged. he shows us how to get along with our brothers and sisters to do His will upon this earth. He teaches us discernment.
You are mixing up posters and who said what,
No everyone who claims to be Christian are. Only the ones God has given His holy spirit to.
People may be at a different maturity level but God works His fruit in the hearts of His children, He chastens us when we wander away from His path.He gives us love and comfort when we feel discouraged. he shows us how to get along with our brothers and sisters to do His will upon this earth. He teaches us discernment.
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Read it again s l o w l y I did not call you blasphemous, but rather to say Christ was not born the son of God until immersion....
Originally Posted by dcontroversal
Your first error is in bolded....the second...two cannot walk together unless agreed....you teach a vanilla twist gospel that is not truthful and or correct man....to even imply that Jesus was not born a son of God until immersion is as false and blasphemous as it comes.....
Your first error is in bolded....the second...two cannot walk together unless agreed....you teach a vanilla twist gospel that is not truthful and or correct man....to even imply that Jesus was not born a son of God until immersion is as false and blasphemous as it comes.....
His disciples did, but he didnt water baptize anyone.
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No God doesn't work people ragged. You will NOT "be engaged in good works all the time"
There is a reason God says come to me all who WEARY and I will give you rest.
The natural out growth of walking with the Holy Spirit is fruit of live, joy,peace, patience,gentleness, goodness and self control.
It is a state of peace and love that is not a work but an extension of who you are in Christ.
To help others will be as natural as breathing.
To call it work implies you expect to be paid or its a chore or takes effort.
We have tasks, good works God prepares for us to do but not for reward or to earn salvation. Nor do we do it out of fear of punishment but to share the love God has already given us.
Do you understand the distinction?
There is a reason God says come to me all who WEARY and I will give you rest.
The natural out growth of walking with the Holy Spirit is fruit of live, joy,peace, patience,gentleness, goodness and self control.
It is a state of peace and love that is not a work but an extension of who you are in Christ.
To help others will be as natural as breathing.
To call it work implies you expect to be paid or its a chore or takes effort.
We have tasks, good works God prepares for us to do but not for reward or to earn salvation. Nor do we do it out of fear of punishment but to share the love God has already given us.
Do you understand the distinction?
JESUS DID IT ALL:
Ephesians 1:4-13 (NRSV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] just as he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless before him in love.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] He destined us for adoption as his children through Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of his will,
[SUP]6 [/SUP] to the praise of his glorious grace that he freely bestowed on us in the Beloved.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace
[SUP]8 [/SUP] that he lavished on us. With all wisdom and insight
[SUP]9 [/SUP] he has made known to us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure that he set forth in Christ,
[SUP]10 [/SUP] as a plan for the fullness of time, to gather up all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] In Christ we have also obtained an inheritance, having been destined according to the purpose of him who accomplishes all things according to his counsel and will,
[SUP]12 [/SUP] so that we, who were the first to set our hope on Christ, might live for the praise of his glory.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] In him you also, when you had heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and had believed in him, were marked with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit;
Thank you tourist, I always like your posts and stop to read them. My wifes home is 300 miles from the Viet-Cambodian border. There is now a modern "Super Highway" all the way through Vietnam going North to China. Most of our enemy contacts were from China. They were supplying troops and supplies to North Vietnam, think about that for a minute or two.
Love the Vietnamese folks a kind and generous people. I see you are 63yrs old, the war ended when you were just 18yrs old.
. keep posting.
God bless you!
Love the Vietnamese folks a kind and generous people. I see you are 63yrs old, the war ended when you were just 18yrs old.
. keep posting.God bless you!
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Is that really how we're to speak about a brother? Doesn't the word tell us we are to take our issues to them in private first? What purpose does that observation serve for the greater good of the body of Christ gathered here?
"Why call me Master, and do not
the things I say to do."
- Jesus
And you criticize me in public? Tish Tish
God bless!
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Been reading some of this thread, and this is what the Spirit revealed to me in the Word of God...First of all, we are initially saved by God's extended grace. In this grace we are given the Holy Spirit, which is the seal of salvation, and the Spirit of truth so that you can have true saving faith. Our faith through the Spirit is what justifies us as the children of God. The Spirit makes us holy and without blame in the eyes of The Father. God's grace will proceed his Justice for those who love him.
Christ taught the truth. He explained some spiritual principals, and he set an example of the humble love that we can only accomplish through the Spirit. Not even slaves washed their masters feet. That was considered one of the if not the lowliest acts to even think of imposing on another.
He said what he said so that his would have joy, and their Joy would be full. He did what he did to confirm his diet, the one we need to believe in. He gave his life to save all who have faith in him as the Son of God, and the prophesied of Saviour.
Only when one lies fallen in the dust in complete humility can they clearly see that mankind everywhere is not primarily in need of an example, but a savior. I
Christ taught the truth. He explained some spiritual principals, and he set an example of the humble love that we can only accomplish through the Spirit. Not even slaves washed their masters feet. That was considered one of the if not the lowliest acts to even think of imposing on another.
He said what he said so that his would have joy, and their Joy would be full. He did what he did to confirm his diet, the one we need to believe in. He gave his life to save all who have faith in him as the Son of God, and the prophesied of Saviour.
Only when one lies fallen in the dust in complete humility can they clearly see that mankind everywhere is not primarily in need of an example, but a savior. I