GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?
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I think when Jesus said the law and the prophets, here's what he meant
In everything,therefore,*treat people the same way you want[j]them to treat you,
for*this is the Law and the Prophets.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7&version=NASB
In everything,therefore,*treat people the same way you want[j]them to treat you,
for*this is the Law and the Prophets.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7&version=NASB
Whoever has died is no longer under law
Romans 7:6
But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
That's us, as far as the law, which is the power of sin, is able to judge and either approve or condemn. Dead. Free!
Colossians 3:3
For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.
He makes the dead spring to life
Romans 7:6
But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
That's us, as far as the law, which is the power of sin, is able to judge and either approve or condemn. Dead. Free!
Colossians 3:3
For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.
He makes the dead spring to life
that's a good way to put it!
let me repeat what you say:
not every law God give is forever. Agree.
seem to me weekly sabbath is fulfilled. Do not practice anymore. Brother shammah keep saying before heaven and earth pass away the every Word never pass. But he AS congregation not kill sabbath violator.
if not pass mean must be practiced than he must practice killing adulterer.
not every law God give is forever. Agree.
seem to me weekly sabbath is fulfilled. Do not practice anymore. Brother shammah keep saying before heaven and earth pass away the every Word never pass. But he AS congregation not kill sabbath violator.
if not pass mean must be practiced than he must practice killing adulterer.
This is the stupidity of Judaism. They are told to kill those who do not keep Saturday Sabbath, while the Ten Commandments tell them not to kill. It is man's commandments against God's commandments.
And Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said unto them, These are the words which the LORD hath commanded, that ye should do them. Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death. (Exo 35:1-2 KJV)
I would like to know who the LORD of Moses was who said these things, because he sure isn't the giver of the Ten Commandments.
And Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said unto them, These are the words which the LORD hath commanded, that ye should do them. Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death. (Exo 35:1-2 KJV)
I would like to know who the LORD of Moses was who said these things, because he sure isn't the giver of the Ten Commandments.
So...according to you one can NEVER be CONFORMED to the image of Christ ? Rom 8v29 another scripture (among many others) down the tube ! God must not know what He is asking of us !
How can/do we worship God if we contradict everything He says ? 'In the Spirit' we should AGREE with EVERY WORD that proceeds OUT OF HIS MOUTH....even if we humanly/physically can't fully perform ! Joh 4v23.
How can/do we worship God if we contradict everything He says ? 'In the Spirit' we should AGREE with EVERY WORD that proceeds OUT OF HIS MOUTH....even if we humanly/physically can't fully perform ! Joh 4v23.
You need to see what scripture says...not argue with people.
The reason we don't kill adulterers and sabbath violaters instantly as in the OT is because Jesus allows a period of GRACE/Pardon from death-sentence for us to learn NOT to sin anymore.... but if we continue in sin then the penalty of death will set in .....so when correctly understood the law is still in force, has not passed away...but DELAYED during GRACE.
Can you understand that ? scripture says we must NOT CONTINUE in sin Rom 6...breaking Commandments is sin 1Joh 3v4.
when did Jesus ever say we need not do the Will of God ? Commandments are the WILL/law of GOD....eternal, spiritual, holy, just and good !!!
The reason we don't kill adulterers and sabbath violaters instantly as in the OT is because Jesus allows a period of GRACE/Pardon from death-sentence for us to learn NOT to sin anymore.... but if we continue in sin then the penalty of death will set in .....so when correctly understood the law is still in force, has not passed away...but DELAYED during GRACE.
Can you understand that ? scripture says we must NOT CONTINUE in sin Rom 6...breaking Commandments is sin 1Joh 3v4.
when did Jesus ever say we need not do the Will of God ? Commandments are the WILL/law of GOD....eternal, spiritual, holy, just and good !!!
let see from other angle of view.
congregation kill adulterer was a law.
now change to Jesus punish adulterer.
is the law to instruct congragetion Kill adulterer still a law now?
if It is still a law, why don't you do It?
There are 2 law
1. Do not commit adultery
2. Congregation must kill adulterer.
You focus oN 1 but ignore 2.
Do you believe 2 not pass?
congregation kill adulterer was a law.
now change to Jesus punish adulterer.
is the law to instruct congragetion Kill adulterer still a law now?
if It is still a law, why don't you do It?
There are 2 law
1. Do not commit adultery
2. Congregation must kill adulterer.
You focus oN 1 but ignore 2.
Do you believe 2 not pass?
why are you so fixated on 'congregation having to do the killing ? in the NT ''people don't kill - GOD HIMSELF destroys evil and wickedness PERMANENTLY ! We as people do not have the power to do that, we can only kill physically which is not a final death, therefore not finished with. When GOD kills an evil person they will NEVER return !
Gabriel has just touched on it in his post above ....a permanent spiritual death !
Wickedness/sin ''originates'' from an EVIL SPIRIT and must be dealt with spiritually by GOD Himself. Not people killing each other.... this present evil world is proof that this is not the answer !
So please stop calling for the congregation to kill violaters. GOD will kill them if they don't repent and change !
Gabriel has just touched on it in his post above ....a permanent spiritual death !
Wickedness/sin ''originates'' from an EVIL SPIRIT and must be dealt with spiritually by GOD Himself. Not people killing each other.... this present evil world is proof that this is not the answer !
So please stop calling for the congregation to kill violaters. GOD will kill them if they don't repent and change !
God loves the sinner, but not the sin.
Because God loves the sinner, you and me, for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, this is why He came into the world, He will redeem those who come to Him in repentance and thencefore live according to His Word.
This makes the O.T. secular law obsolete.
Remember also, that to kill the sinner in his wickedness, which is what OT law does, is to condemn them to Hell.
Because God loves the sinner, you and me, for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, this is why He came into the world, He will redeem those who come to Him in repentance and thencefore live according to His Word.
This makes the O.T. secular law obsolete.
Remember also, that to kill the sinner in his wickedness, which is what OT law does, is to condemn them to Hell.
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in Exodus 20 the word is do not 'murder'
not the same word here in ch. 35 & elsewhere, 'put to death'
instead of presuming the LORD is evil ((death exists apart from this law; do you condemn God also when an animal or plant is killed so you can eat?)), i think you should assume God is good, and that God saves and preserves His people, and ask why He commanded death penalty?
who is He saving, who is He preserving?
what is the evil He is protecting His people from by commanding that they put to death the person who does this thing?
why is this so dangerous that they must die?
don't think, 'i don't understand this, so Moses must have been deceived but i see clearly'
think, 'God is good - there must be a good reason for this; what is it?'