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eternally-gratefull
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Sorry, faith has a good works component. It is accompanied by all good works. Mailmandan tells me that.
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eternally-gratefull
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You are to focused on works (self ) man
faith does not have a god works component, (that would suggest faih could be void of works) faith produces good works, you will never see true saving faith apart from works. Because faith works.
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Ariel82
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Nope. The Holy spirit is what separates the sheep and wolves..,,wolves can even preform miracles in Jesus name and yet Jesus will tell them to depart from Him.
The Holy spirit changes hearts not just external actions but also internal motives.
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Ariel82
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So basically you believe those who don't get water baptized are not saved?
Those who are part of the Body of Christ are of One spirit and One baptism...not two.
So ADAM spoke ENGLISH, LOL. Then you will tell is that ENGLISH is the Language of HEAVEN, LOL.
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eternally-gratefull
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So ADAM spoke ENGLISH, LOL. Then you will tell is that ENGLISH is the Language of HEAVEN, LOL.
how else can the KJV be the word of God inerent, it is Gods language, listen to all the pastors who speak the language and sound just like the kjv! I think it is a class taught in semenary. They all sound alike.
LOL, Endoscopy, you are digging yourself deeper and deeper into FALSE DOCTRINE.
Like these who thought their WORKS SEPARATED THE SHEEP FROM THE WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING:
Matthew 7:21-23 (HCSB)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord!’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but ⌊only⌋ the one who does the will of My Father in heaven.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] On that day many will say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name?’
[SUP]23 [/SUP] Then I will announce to them, ‘I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!’
How do you tell a secular minister verses a Christian minister?
Wether or not they have the works of preaching the gospel message.
Here is James on the topic in NIV and AMPC. Notice AMPC gives more information by giving alternatives to any original language word. Dcon hates these verses. He attempts to have their words have different meanings. Thus the appearance of changing their meanings
James 2 NIV
Faith and Deeds
14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.”
Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
20 You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[d]? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[e] and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.
25 In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.
James 2 AMPC
14 What is the use (profit), my brethren, for anyone to profess to have faith if he has no [good] works [to show for it]? Can [such] faith save [his soul]?
15 If a brother or sister is poorly clad and lacks food for each day,
16 And one of you says to him, Good-bye! Keep [yourself] warm and well fed, without giving him the necessities for the body, what good does that do?
17 So also faith, if it does not have works (deeds and actions of obedience to back it up), by itself is destitute of power (inoperative, dead).
18 But someone will say [to you then], You [say you] have faith, and I have [good] works. Now you show me your [alleged] faith apart from any [good] works [if you can], and I by [good] works [of obedience] will show you my faith.
19 You believe that God is one; you do well. So do the demons believe and shudder [in terror and horror such as make a man’s hair stand on end and contract the surface of his skin]!
20 Are you willing to be shown [proof], you foolish (unproductive, spiritually deficient) fellow, that faith apart from [good] works is inactive and ineffective and worthless?
21 Was not our forefather Abraham [shown to be] justified (made acceptable to God) by [his] works when he brought to the altar as an offering his [own] son Isaac?
22 You see that [his] faith was cooperating with his works, and [his] faith was completed and reached its supreme expression [when he implemented it] by [good] works.
23 And [so] the Scripture was fulfilled that says, Abraham believed in (adhered to, trusted in, and relied on) God, and this was accounted to him as righteousness (as conformity to God’s will in thought and deed), and he was called God’s friend.
24 You see that a man is justified (pronounced righteous before God) through what he does and not alone through faith [through works of obedience as well as by what he believes].
25 So also with Rahab the harlot—was she not shown to be justified (pronounced righteous before God) by [good] deeds when she took in the scouts (spies) and sent them away by a different route?
26 For as the human body apart from the spirit is lifeless, so faith apart from [its] works of obedience is also dead.
What false doctrine?
We are saved by grace through faith.
Faith without works is dead.
Everything I stated comes logically from those two Biblical statements.
Those claiming faith and producing no works are claiming a false faith.
Jesus said by their fruits (works) you shall know them.
Jesus said to watch out for wolves in sheep's clothing.
Therefore those claiming faith without works are the wolves!
Currently all of the 7 major protestant denominations have been taken over by the wolves. The gospel is currently being preached in sub denominations. Presbyterian PCA and Missouri Synod Lutheran for example. A little less than half of people go to church. Only a splinter of them hear the gospel. Prebysterian USA was taken over in 1932 as documented in the book Crossed Fingers by Gary North.
Live with these facts!
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Ariel82
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Fruit of the spirit is different than works..,
You can have works without fruit, but if you truly have fruit of love, joy,peace, patience, kindness, gentleness and self control...you will be lead by the Spirit to do works
Works and fruit are not the same thing.
You can have works without fruit, but if you truly have fruit of love, joy,peace, patience, kindness, gentleness and self control...you will be lead by the Spirit to do works
Works and fruit are not the same thing.
But you cannot have fruit without the works of the tree. The Spirit cannot produce fruit without the tree, but the tree can produce fruit without faith in the Spirit.
So the tree that is hewed down and cast in the fire isn't the deadwood with sap
but the trees with faith only, because faith does not produce fruit, sap does.
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dcon said;
Take 1 second and actually think about and ponder what this thread is about.....serious.....it is
about HOW ONE IS SAVED not WHAT THEY DO AFTER THEY ARE SAVED.....it IS FAITH
ALONE THAT SAVES.....end of story........!
ElAmor said:
To get this over with, i want to ask dcon “HOW IS ONE SAVED"?
the bible tells us about it this way;
Romans 10:8-18 But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your
heart,” that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: THAT IF YOU CONFESS WITH YOUR
MOUTH, “JESUS IS LORD,” AND BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART THAT GOD RAISED HIM
FROM THE DEAD, YOU WILL BE SAVED. For it is with your heart that you believe and are
justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. As the Scripture says,
“Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between Jew
and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, “Everyone
who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” How, then, can they call on the one they
have not believed in? And HOW CAN THEY BELIEVE in the one of whom they have not
heard? And how can they hear WITHOUT SOMEONE PREACHING TO THEM? And how can
they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring
good news!” But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has
believed our message?” Consequently, FAITH COMES FROM HEARING THE MESSAGE, and
the message is heard through the word of Christ. But I ask: Did they not hear? Of course
they did: “Their voice has gone out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world.”
It is clear that PREACHING is a WORK necessary for one to BELIEVE and have FAITH and
therefore be SAVED.
Another thing we need to notice is that WITH THE HEART WE BELIEVE AND ARE JUSTIFIED
and WITH OUR MOUTH WE CONFESS AND ARE SAVED.
Believe and confess are two different words with different meaning, the same as justified and
saved.
Romans 10 clearly proves that Salvation is not through Faith ALONE.
BELIEF,, CONFESSION, REPENTANCE, PREACHING, BAPTISM, OBEDIENCE , FAITH,
HOPE, LOVE, WISDOM, HOLINESS, RIGHTEOUSNESS, GOOD WORKS, SERVICE,
WORSHIP ETC. ARE ALL WORKS OF SALVATION THAT THE BODY OF CHRIST POSSESS AND DO FOR THE HONOR AND GLORY AND PRAISE OF GOD OUR FATHER AND HIS
ONLY SON JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR.
Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The
life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
IF ONE CLAIMS TO HAVE RECEIVED THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH FAITH, (gal 3:14) AND
THEN SAY THAT HIS/HER FAITH ALONE SAVED HIM/HER AND THAT WITHOUT WORKS,
DOESN’T HE/SHE REJECTS AND TRAMPLES UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD AND
INSULTS THE SPIRIT OF GRACE?
Hebrews 10:28-29 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony
of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be
punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the
blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?
IF THE WORKS OF GOD WHO IS LOVE (1john 4:8 & 16) THE SON WHO IS TRUTH (john
14:6) AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WHO IS THE POWER (acts 1:8) HAVE NO POWER TO SAVE
AND EVEN OBEDIENCE TO THESE WORKS IS REJECTED BY SAYING THAT FAITH
“ALONE” SAVES VOID OF WORKS, ARE YOU NOT A LIAR AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN
YOU?
1 John 2:3-6 We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who
says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if
anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are
in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.
I CAN CLAIM THAT I HAVE FAITH AND I AM SAVED FOREVER BUT WITHOUT “LOVE”, I AM
NOTHING AND I AM NOT WORTHY OF GOD’S LOVE.
2 John 1:4-11 It has given me great joy to find some of your children WALKING IN THE TRUTH,
just as the Father commanded us. And now, dear lady, I am not writing you a new command but
one we have had from the beginning. I ask that we love one another. And this is love: that we
walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his
command is that you walk in love. Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as
coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the
antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be
rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ
does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If
anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or
welcome him. Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work.
Isaiah 5:20-24 WOE TO THOSE WHO CALL EVIL GOOD AND GOOD EVIL, who put darkness
for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Woe to those who
are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight. Woe to those who are heroes at
drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks, who acquit the guilty for a bribe, but deny justice
to the innocent. Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the
flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; FOR THEY HAVE
REJECTED THE LAW OF THE LORD ALMIGHTY AND SPURNED THE WORD OF THE
HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL.
Galatians 6:7-10 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.
James 2:26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.
Jude 1:19 These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.
EVEN DEVILS BELIEVE...
Take 1 second and actually think about and ponder what this thread is about.....serious.....it is
about HOW ONE IS SAVED not WHAT THEY DO AFTER THEY ARE SAVED.....it IS FAITH
ALONE THAT SAVES.....end of story........!
ElAmor said:
To get this over with, i want to ask dcon “HOW IS ONE SAVED"?
the bible tells us about it this way;
Romans 10:8-18 But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your
heart,” that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: THAT IF YOU CONFESS WITH YOUR
MOUTH, “JESUS IS LORD,” AND BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART THAT GOD RAISED HIM
FROM THE DEAD, YOU WILL BE SAVED. For it is with your heart that you believe and are
justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. As the Scripture says,
“Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between Jew
and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, “Everyone
who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” How, then, can they call on the one they
have not believed in? And HOW CAN THEY BELIEVE in the one of whom they have not
heard? And how can they hear WITHOUT SOMEONE PREACHING TO THEM? And how can
they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring
good news!” But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has
believed our message?” Consequently, FAITH COMES FROM HEARING THE MESSAGE, and
the message is heard through the word of Christ. But I ask: Did they not hear? Of course
they did: “Their voice has gone out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world.”
It is clear that PREACHING is a WORK necessary for one to BELIEVE and have FAITH and
therefore be SAVED.
Another thing we need to notice is that WITH THE HEART WE BELIEVE AND ARE JUSTIFIED
and WITH OUR MOUTH WE CONFESS AND ARE SAVED.
Believe and confess are two different words with different meaning, the same as justified and
saved.
Romans 10 clearly proves that Salvation is not through Faith ALONE.
BELIEF,, CONFESSION, REPENTANCE, PREACHING, BAPTISM, OBEDIENCE , FAITH,
HOPE, LOVE, WISDOM, HOLINESS, RIGHTEOUSNESS, GOOD WORKS, SERVICE,
WORSHIP ETC. ARE ALL WORKS OF SALVATION THAT THE BODY OF CHRIST POSSESS AND DO FOR THE HONOR AND GLORY AND PRAISE OF GOD OUR FATHER AND HIS
ONLY SON JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR.
Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The
life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
IF ONE CLAIMS TO HAVE RECEIVED THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH FAITH, (gal 3:14) AND
THEN SAY THAT HIS/HER FAITH ALONE SAVED HIM/HER AND THAT WITHOUT WORKS,
DOESN’T HE/SHE REJECTS AND TRAMPLES UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD AND
INSULTS THE SPIRIT OF GRACE?
Hebrews 10:28-29 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony
of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be
punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the
blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?
IF THE WORKS OF GOD WHO IS LOVE (1john 4:8 & 16) THE SON WHO IS TRUTH (john
14:6) AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WHO IS THE POWER (acts 1:8) HAVE NO POWER TO SAVE
AND EVEN OBEDIENCE TO THESE WORKS IS REJECTED BY SAYING THAT FAITH
“ALONE” SAVES VOID OF WORKS, ARE YOU NOT A LIAR AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN
YOU?
1 John 2:3-6 We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who
says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if
anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are
in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.
I CAN CLAIM THAT I HAVE FAITH AND I AM SAVED FOREVER BUT WITHOUT “LOVE”, I AM
NOTHING AND I AM NOT WORTHY OF GOD’S LOVE.
2 John 1:4-11 It has given me great joy to find some of your children WALKING IN THE TRUTH,
just as the Father commanded us. And now, dear lady, I am not writing you a new command but
one we have had from the beginning. I ask that we love one another. And this is love: that we
walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his
command is that you walk in love. Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as
coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the
antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be
rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ
does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If
anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or
welcome him. Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work.
Isaiah 5:20-24 WOE TO THOSE WHO CALL EVIL GOOD AND GOOD EVIL, who put darkness
for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Woe to those who
are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight. Woe to those who are heroes at
drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks, who acquit the guilty for a bribe, but deny justice
to the innocent. Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the
flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; FOR THEY HAVE
REJECTED THE LAW OF THE LORD ALMIGHTY AND SPURNED THE WORD OF THE
HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL.
Galatians 6:7-10 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.
James 2:26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.
Jude 1:19 These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.
EVEN DEVILS BELIEVE...
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joefizz
Guest
And tremble yet they do not claim Jesus though only "stand on ceremony" just as the Pharisees and just as those who will by no means be able to stand before Jesus for they know his "words"but not him.
John 1:1-5,14 The Word Became Flesh In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
IT’S DISAPPOINTING TO LEARN THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIANS
CLING OR TRUST MAN MADE DOCTRINES MORE THAN THE TRUTH IN THE
SCRIPTURES.
2 Timothy 3:15-17 and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to
make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is
useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God
may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
THESE SELF-PROCLAIMED CHRISTIANS WOULD REJECT GOD’S WORDS, LAWS AND
COMMANDS TO DEFEND WHAT WAS TAUGHT TO THEM BY THEIR CHURCH LEADERS.
Mark 7:6-13 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you HYPOCRITES; as it is
written: “‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship
me in vain; THEIR TEACHINGS ARE BUT RULES TAUGHT BY MEN.’ You have let go of the
commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men.” And he said to them: “YOU
HAVE A FINE WAY OF SETTING ASIDE THE COMMANDS OF GOD in order to observe your
own traditions! For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who
CURSES his father or mother must be put to death.’ But you say that if a man says to his father
or mother: ‘Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is Corban’ (that is, a gift
devoted to God), then YOU NO LONGER LET HIM DO ANYTHING for his father or mother.
Thus YOU NULLIFY THE WORD OF GOD by your tradition that you have handed down. And
YOU DO MANY THINGS LIKE THAT”
TO THEIR SHAME, THESE PEOPLE CLAIM TO KNOW GOD BUT BY THEIR ACTIONS THEY
DENY HIM.( titus 1:16)
THEY CLAIM TO BE ETERNALLY SAVED ALTHOUGH THEY ARE DEAD IN THE EYES OF
GOD (rev 3:1-6)
THEY NOT ONLY APPROVE OF THOSE WHO MOCK GOD AND TRAMPLED THE SON OF
GOD UNDER FOOT.(psalms 49:13-15)
Hebrews 10:28-29 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony
of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be
punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the
blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?
BUT THEY EVEN PRAISE THE ONE WHO CALLS JESUS “CURSED" WHILE MOCKING AND
INSULTING THOSE WHO PROMOTE OBEDIENCE TO GOD AND HIS WORD THROUGH
THE GOSPEL OF OUR SALVATION.
Isaiah 5:20-24 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and
light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Woe to those who are wise in
their own eyes and clever in their own sight. Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and
champions at mixing drinks, who acquit the guilty for a bribe, but deny justice to the innocent.
Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their
roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for THEY HAVE REJECTED THE LAW
OF THE LORD ALMIGHTY AND SPURNED THE WORD OF THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL..
“WOE TO THOSE WHO CALL JESUS “CURSED” AND TEACHES DISOBEDIENCE TO
GOD’S WORDS AND COMMANDS.”
2 John 1:5-11 And now, dear lady, I am not writing you a new command but one we have had
from the beginning. I ask that we love one another. And this is love: that we walk in obedience
to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love.
Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out
into the world. ANY SUCH PERSON IS THE DECEIVER AND THE ANTICHRIST. Watch out
that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who
runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever
continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does
not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. Anyone who welcomes
him shares in his wicked work.
Corinthians 11:13-15 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as
apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not
surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be
what their actions deserve.
“GOD CANNOT BE MOCKED"
“LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR.”
CLING OR TRUST MAN MADE DOCTRINES MORE THAN THE TRUTH IN THE
SCRIPTURES.
2 Timothy 3:15-17 and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to
make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is
useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God
may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
THESE SELF-PROCLAIMED CHRISTIANS WOULD REJECT GOD’S WORDS, LAWS AND
COMMANDS TO DEFEND WHAT WAS TAUGHT TO THEM BY THEIR CHURCH LEADERS.
Mark 7:6-13 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you HYPOCRITES; as it is
written: “‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship
me in vain; THEIR TEACHINGS ARE BUT RULES TAUGHT BY MEN.’ You have let go of the
commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men.” And he said to them: “YOU
HAVE A FINE WAY OF SETTING ASIDE THE COMMANDS OF GOD in order to observe your
own traditions! For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who
CURSES his father or mother must be put to death.’ But you say that if a man says to his father
or mother: ‘Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is Corban’ (that is, a gift
devoted to God), then YOU NO LONGER LET HIM DO ANYTHING for his father or mother.
Thus YOU NULLIFY THE WORD OF GOD by your tradition that you have handed down. And
YOU DO MANY THINGS LIKE THAT”
TO THEIR SHAME, THESE PEOPLE CLAIM TO KNOW GOD BUT BY THEIR ACTIONS THEY
DENY HIM.( titus 1:16)
THEY CLAIM TO BE ETERNALLY SAVED ALTHOUGH THEY ARE DEAD IN THE EYES OF
GOD (rev 3:1-6)
THEY NOT ONLY APPROVE OF THOSE WHO MOCK GOD AND TRAMPLED THE SON OF
GOD UNDER FOOT.(psalms 49:13-15)
Hebrews 10:28-29 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony
of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be
punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the
blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?
BUT THEY EVEN PRAISE THE ONE WHO CALLS JESUS “CURSED" WHILE MOCKING AND
INSULTING THOSE WHO PROMOTE OBEDIENCE TO GOD AND HIS WORD THROUGH
THE GOSPEL OF OUR SALVATION.
Isaiah 5:20-24 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and
light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Woe to those who are wise in
their own eyes and clever in their own sight. Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and
champions at mixing drinks, who acquit the guilty for a bribe, but deny justice to the innocent.
Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their
roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for THEY HAVE REJECTED THE LAW
OF THE LORD ALMIGHTY AND SPURNED THE WORD OF THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL..
“WOE TO THOSE WHO CALL JESUS “CURSED” AND TEACHES DISOBEDIENCE TO
GOD’S WORDS AND COMMANDS.”
2 John 1:5-11 And now, dear lady, I am not writing you a new command but one we have had
from the beginning. I ask that we love one another. And this is love: that we walk in obedience
to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love.
Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out
into the world. ANY SUCH PERSON IS THE DECEIVER AND THE ANTICHRIST. Watch out
that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who
runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever
continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does
not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. Anyone who welcomes
him shares in his wicked work.
Corinthians 11:13-15 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as
apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not
surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be
what their actions deserve.
“GOD CANNOT BE MOCKED"
“LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR.”
Luke 6:46 “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what i say?
1 John 1:5-10 WALKING IN THE LIGHT This is the message we have heard from him and
declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we CLAIM to have fellowship
with him YET WALK IN THE DARKNESS, we lie and do not live by the truth. But IF WE WALK
in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his
Son, purifies us from all sin. IF WE CLAIM to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth
is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify
us from all unrighteousness. IF WE CLAIM we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar
and his word has no place in our lives.
WHY WOULD OUR LORD JESUS BUILD HIS CHURCH(matthew 16:18) IF IT’S MEMBERS
WOULD JUST SAY AND CLAIM THAT THEY HAVE FAITH BUT WON’T DO WHAT THEY
ARE TOLD TO DO FOR FEAR OF BEING CALLED A WORKS SALVATIONIST?
IF THE CHURCH IS THE BODY,(eph 5:23) AND JUST AS THE BODY WITHOUT THE SPIRIT
IS DEAD SO FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD.( james 2:26) IN THE SAME WAY A TREE
WITHOUT FRUIT IS CUT DOWN AND BURNED.(Luke 6:43-45,john 15:6,mat 3:10)
ISN’T HE THE HEAD OF THAT ONE BODY (THE CHURCH)(ephesians 5:23)
SINCE WHEN DID THE BODY CONTROL THE HEAD OR MAKE THE HEAD DO WHAT THE
BODY WANTS OR FOR THE LORD TO BECOME ITS SERVANT?
AREN”T THE BELIEVERS WHO ARE PART OF THAT ONE BODY SUPPOSED TO BE LED
BY THE SPIRIT AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND?
ARE WE SUPPOSED TO JUST HAVE FAITH ALONE EXPECTING TO BE SERVED BY GOD
HERE ON EARTH AND IN HEAVEN?( IF ALLOWED TO ENTER THAT PLACE)
IF EVEN OUR LORD JESUS BECAME A SERVANT, SHOULDN’T WE BE LIKE HIM, TO
WALK AS HE DID ( 1 john 2:6) AND BE CONSIDERED AS GOOD AND FAITHFUL
SERVANTS? (1 john 2:5-6,matthew 25:14-30)
Ephesians 4:11-13 It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be
evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, TO PREPARE GOD’S PEOPLE FOR
WORKS OF SERVICE, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the
faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole
measure of the fullness of Christ.
IF WE REALLY ARE A PART OF CHRIST BEING A MEMBER OF HIS BODY, THEN WE ARE
EXPECTED TO DO HIS WORKS AS WE ARE LED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT.
IT IS HIS BODY (THE CHURCH) WHOM HE WILL SAVE AND THEY ARE THOSE WHO
THROUGH FAITH DO THE WILL OF THE FATHER AND ARE WORKERS AND SERVANTS
OF GOD AND ARE THEREFORE SONS OF GOD.
John 14:12 I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He
will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
Romans 8:14 because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.
Mark 7:6-13 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you HYPOCRITES; as it is
written: “‘These people HONOR ME WITH THEIR LIPS, but their hearts are far from me. They
worship me in vain; THEIR TEACHINGS ARE BUT RULES TAUGHT BY MEN.’ You have let go
of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men.” And he said to them:
“YOU HAVE A FINE WAY OF SETTING ASIDE THE COMMANDS OF GOD in order to observe
your own traditions! For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who
curses his father or mother must be put to death.’ But you say that if a man says to his father or
mother: ‘Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is Corban’ (that is, a gift
devoted to God), then YOU NO LONGER LET HIM DO ANYTHING for his father or mother.
Thus YOU NULLIFY THE WORD OF GOD by your tradition that you have handed down. And
YOU DO MANY THINGS LIKE THAT.”
Therefore:
Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but
only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN HAS DIED IN HIS SINFUL NATURE AND RAISED AGAIN WITH
JESUS TO LIVE ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT in order that the righteous requirements of the
law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the
Spirit.(Romans 8:4)
AM I BORN AGAIN?
….God looks at the heart and if I would just CLAIM to be born again yet DO NOT DO WHAT HE
SAYS and STILL WALKS IN THE DARKNESS...I WOULD BE A LIAR.
Matthew 23:3 So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
Titus 1:16 They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.
1 John 1:5-10 WALKING IN THE LIGHT This is the message we have heard from him and
declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we CLAIM to have fellowship
with him YET WALK IN THE DARKNESS, we lie and do not live by the truth. But IF WE WALK
in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his
Son, purifies us from all sin. IF WE CLAIM to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth
is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify
us from all unrighteousness. IF WE CLAIM we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar
and his word has no place in our lives.
WHY WOULD OUR LORD JESUS BUILD HIS CHURCH(matthew 16:18) IF IT’S MEMBERS
WOULD JUST SAY AND CLAIM THAT THEY HAVE FAITH BUT WON’T DO WHAT THEY
ARE TOLD TO DO FOR FEAR OF BEING CALLED A WORKS SALVATIONIST?
IF THE CHURCH IS THE BODY,(eph 5:23) AND JUST AS THE BODY WITHOUT THE SPIRIT
IS DEAD SO FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD.( james 2:26) IN THE SAME WAY A TREE
WITHOUT FRUIT IS CUT DOWN AND BURNED.(Luke 6:43-45,john 15:6,mat 3:10)
ISN’T HE THE HEAD OF THAT ONE BODY (THE CHURCH)(ephesians 5:23)
SINCE WHEN DID THE BODY CONTROL THE HEAD OR MAKE THE HEAD DO WHAT THE
BODY WANTS OR FOR THE LORD TO BECOME ITS SERVANT?
AREN”T THE BELIEVERS WHO ARE PART OF THAT ONE BODY SUPPOSED TO BE LED
BY THE SPIRIT AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND?
ARE WE SUPPOSED TO JUST HAVE FAITH ALONE EXPECTING TO BE SERVED BY GOD
HERE ON EARTH AND IN HEAVEN?( IF ALLOWED TO ENTER THAT PLACE)
IF EVEN OUR LORD JESUS BECAME A SERVANT, SHOULDN’T WE BE LIKE HIM, TO
WALK AS HE DID ( 1 john 2:6) AND BE CONSIDERED AS GOOD AND FAITHFUL
SERVANTS? (1 john 2:5-6,matthew 25:14-30)
Ephesians 4:11-13 It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be
evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, TO PREPARE GOD’S PEOPLE FOR
WORKS OF SERVICE, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the
faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole
measure of the fullness of Christ.
IF WE REALLY ARE A PART OF CHRIST BEING A MEMBER OF HIS BODY, THEN WE ARE
EXPECTED TO DO HIS WORKS AS WE ARE LED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT.
IT IS HIS BODY (THE CHURCH) WHOM HE WILL SAVE AND THEY ARE THOSE WHO
THROUGH FAITH DO THE WILL OF THE FATHER AND ARE WORKERS AND SERVANTS
OF GOD AND ARE THEREFORE SONS OF GOD.
John 14:12 I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He
will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
Romans 8:14 because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.
Mark 7:6-13 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you HYPOCRITES; as it is
written: “‘These people HONOR ME WITH THEIR LIPS, but their hearts are far from me. They
worship me in vain; THEIR TEACHINGS ARE BUT RULES TAUGHT BY MEN.’ You have let go
of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men.” And he said to them:
“YOU HAVE A FINE WAY OF SETTING ASIDE THE COMMANDS OF GOD in order to observe
your own traditions! For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who
curses his father or mother must be put to death.’ But you say that if a man says to his father or
mother: ‘Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is Corban’ (that is, a gift
devoted to God), then YOU NO LONGER LET HIM DO ANYTHING for his father or mother.
Thus YOU NULLIFY THE WORD OF GOD by your tradition that you have handed down. And
YOU DO MANY THINGS LIKE THAT.”
Therefore:
Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but
only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN HAS DIED IN HIS SINFUL NATURE AND RAISED AGAIN WITH
JESUS TO LIVE ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT in order that the righteous requirements of the
law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the
Spirit.(Romans 8:4)
AM I BORN AGAIN?
….God looks at the heart and if I would just CLAIM to be born again yet DO NOT DO WHAT HE
SAYS and STILL WALKS IN THE DARKNESS...I WOULD BE A LIAR.
Matthew 23:3 So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
Titus 1:16 They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.