I am not a Christian so I think I might have a pretty good idea of the reasons a person might not accept Christianity, yet seeing that the United States was not established as a Christian Nation then I see no need to make excuses why people don't accept Christianity as if believing words written by man are any different that words spoken by man if the written word is the invention of man.
Native American Christianity
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Hey Didymous, I understood what you were getting at,
and I thought it was a very insightful post.
If many Native Americans are hurt, biased, and distrusting of Christians... well, that's just how it is.
We can't help anyone if we pretend the problems don't exist.
My post was just to sort of "mull over" how me might consider dealing with those issues in the present tense.
Throughout the old testament, time and again, it shows that God's people overtook lands. The people coming to take over America were seeking to worship God, while the people already here were worshiping creation instead of the Creator, or even their dead ancestors. God allowed them to take over, just as He had done many times. As for the people who took over, there were some among the group who did evil things, that is true of any large group- which is why God judges us individually.
Physically speaking, I am of both groups. But I am not Indian, english, Irish, or whatever, I am Christian. I do not consider physical heritage or the histories of them. I consider only the heavenly race. We are only connected to worldly people for a short hundred years, but we are connected to God's people for eternity. Whoever is doing right and good- they are my people, no matter their skin color or national history.
J
real Christianity was a minority long before Europeans came to the states. corrupt leaders have been using the church to oppress people for a long time.
most nations in north america believed in one single creator, very different than the aztecs and Inca who had many gods, dark beliefs and closely resembled the canaanite worship system.
most nations in north america believed in one single creator, very different than the aztecs and Inca who had many gods, dark beliefs and closely resembled the canaanite worship system.
Read the Treaty of Tripoli....
Then read Article VI of the United States Constitution.....
The first use of "In God we Trust" didn't appear on any U.S. currency until 1864 and wasn't added to paper currency until 1956.
We hold these truths to be self evident.
If you believe all men are created equal then why don't you hear that all males and females are created equal?
If you believe all men are created equal then why do you believe anyone could was born without a male and female being fruitful?
Then read Article VI of the United States Constitution.....
The first use of "In God we Trust" didn't appear on any U.S. currency until 1864 and wasn't added to paper currency until 1956.
We hold these truths to be self evident.
If you believe all men are created equal then why don't you hear that all males and females are created equal?
If you believe all men are created equal then why do you believe anyone could was born without a male and female being fruitful?
As far as treatment of the Chinese, they were accepted by us, as were all people-at least initially. If you saw some of my cousins you'd see this. They were also exploited by miners to make channels through vertical cliff faces-much like they did for the railroads. When they ran away, as many did, we took them in.
It does not matter which ethnic group you consider. Every ethnic group has tried to enslave others. The Chinese did their fair share of enslavement (as did the Japanese), and had Native Americans had the same technology as Europeans, chances are that the shoe would have been on the other foot. Even their horses originated in Spain.
The Natives were accomplished warriors but (a) they did not band together as one people, but fought amongst each other and (b) they lacked the guns, artillery, and ammunition of the Whites. And by the time they had access to guns, it was too late.
Didymous can correct me if I am wrong.
The Natives were accomplished warriors but (a) they did not band together as one people, but fought amongst each other and (b) they lacked the guns, artillery, and ammunition of the Whites. And by the time they had access to guns, it was too late.
Didymous can correct me if I am wrong.
I am blessed to have had some exposure to a very little of US Indian culture. In grammar school, in Long Beach, California, believe it or not, Indians came to one of my elementary schools and demonstrated facets of their lifestyle before "we" got there.
Forgive me, i WAS VERY young, but I believe they wee Navajo. They demonstrated some of their dances, and I was particularly impressed by the rain dance which I "learned." I believe I recall a small bit of th chanting or singing also. Chanter is to sing in French. They were very kind to a little kid, I think I was six or seven. These particular Indians wore feathers in a circular shield-like shape on the outside of their legs at the knees. It is certain I did not get a true image of everything, but I have loved all American Indians since., for all tht is worth.
When I firt came to believe I was given a story about American INdians how they expected a Savior to come from beyond the "big water". Also, though I am not certain if it is connected, I blieve they knew some of the Word from th Sars. I know there is what is called the dragon that wraps practically all around the earth, how appropriate. Anyway it faces a seated woman..Cassiopeia. I believe the American Indians, some at least, saw this in their own way, but a dragon attacking a lady..
All I know is I will not judge anyone as condemned just because they understand differtly than I. I do confront any who claim to be in Christ and misrepresent Him though.
I do know this, God says, "So what if I justify the ungodly." I believe this is in reference to how some people see others, therefore I do not judge unto condemnation for in so doing I would be judging me the same..God bless you.
Forgive me, i WAS VERY young, but I believe they wee Navajo. They demonstrated some of their dances, and I was particularly impressed by the rain dance which I "learned." I believe I recall a small bit of th chanting or singing also. Chanter is to sing in French. They were very kind to a little kid, I think I was six or seven. These particular Indians wore feathers in a circular shield-like shape on the outside of their legs at the knees. It is certain I did not get a true image of everything, but I have loved all American Indians since., for all tht is worth.
When I firt came to believe I was given a story about American INdians how they expected a Savior to come from beyond the "big water". Also, though I am not certain if it is connected, I blieve they knew some of the Word from th Sars. I know there is what is called the dragon that wraps practically all around the earth, how appropriate. Anyway it faces a seated woman..Cassiopeia. I believe the American Indians, some at least, saw this in their own way, but a dragon attacking a lady..
All I know is I will not judge anyone as condemned just because they understand differtly than I. I do confront any who claim to be in Christ and misrepresent Him though.
I do know this, God says, "So what if I justify the ungodly." I believe this is in reference to how some people see others, therefore I do not judge unto condemnation for in so doing I would be judging me the same..God bless you.