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Edward Mote (1797-1874) falls into the rare category of hymn writers who grew up without religious training and whose parents were pub owners. He was apprenticed at a young age by his parents to a cabinetmaker, but found faith when he heard the preaching of John Hyatt at the Tottenham Court Road Chapel in London at age 15.
"My Hope Is Built"
My hope is built on nothing less
Than Jesus’ blood and righteousness.
I dare note trust the sweetest frame,
but wholly lean on Jesus’ name.
On Christ the solid rock I stand,
all other ground is sinking sand.
Written by: Edward Mote
"My Hope Is Built"
My hope is built on nothing less
Than Jesus’ blood and righteousness.
I dare note trust the sweetest frame,
but wholly lean on Jesus’ name.
On Christ the solid rock I stand,
all other ground is sinking sand.
Written by: Edward Mote
Right away?
Tell me when a person is born again.
When were the disciples born again?
Are works fruit?
When was Peter the hot headed man born again?
The guy who cut off a guards ear, denied Jesus, was rebuked by Paul.
When did ALL their good works start?
Trees a little different from people???
Jesus said we are in the vine, the vine being him.
Does a vine automatically produce fruit?
What's the purpose of pruning?
Ps I can't recall mentioning trees.
But the same principle still applies.
In the church you go to do you set a yartdsick?
Or do you come alongside them if they are not walking as they should to find why?
Tell me when a person is born again.
When were the disciples born again?
Are works fruit?
When was Peter the hot headed man born again?
The guy who cut off a guards ear, denied Jesus, was rebuked by Paul.
When did ALL their good works start?
Trees a little different from people???
Jesus said we are in the vine, the vine being him.
Does a vine automatically produce fruit?
What's the purpose of pruning?
Ps I can't recall mentioning trees.
But the same principle still applies.
In the church you go to do you set a yartdsick?
Or do you come alongside them if they are not walking as they should to find why?
If we have bad fruit then we are of Satan.
Are you serious?
If a believer has bad fruit they are of Satan.
Wow, you me and everyone else who have placed faith in Jesus are in effect the sons of Satan if we have bad works.
Is that what your saying?
I sincerely hope not and I hope I have totally got you wrong.
Are you serious?
If a believer has bad fruit they are of Satan.
Wow, you me and everyone else who have placed faith in Jesus are in effect the sons of Satan if we have bad works.
Is that what your saying?
I sincerely hope not and I hope I have totally got you wrong.
My hope is built on nothing less
Than Jesus' blood and righteousness
I dare not trust the sweetest frame
But holly trust is Jesus' name
My hope is built on nothing less
Than Jesus' blood and righteousness
I dare not trust the sweetest frame
But holly trust is Jesus' name
Christ alone, Cornerstone
Weak made strong in the Savior's love
Through the storm
He is Lord
Lord of all
When darkness seems to hide His face
I rest on His unchanging grace
In every high and stormy gale
My anchor holds within the veil
My anchor holds within the veil
Christ alone, Cornerstone
Weak made strong in the Savior's love
Through the storm
He is Lord
Lord of all
He is Lord
Lord of all, Christ alone
Christ alone, Cornerstone
Weak made strong in the Savior's love
Through the storm
He is Lord
Lord of all
Christ alone, Cornerstone
Weak made strong in the Savior's love
Through the storm
He is Lord
Lord of all
When he shall come with trumpet sound
Oh, may I then in Him be found
Dressed in His righteousness alone
Faultless, stand before the throne
Cornerstone
Oh, yeah, in the Savior's love
He is Lord
Lord of all
Christ alone, Cornerstone
Weak made strong in the Savior's love
Through the storm
He is Lord
Lord of all
Than Jesus' blood and righteousness
I dare not trust the sweetest frame
But holly trust is Jesus' name
My hope is built on nothing less
Than Jesus' blood and righteousness
I dare not trust the sweetest frame
But holly trust is Jesus' name
Christ alone, Cornerstone
Weak made strong in the Savior's love
Through the storm
He is Lord
Lord of all
When darkness seems to hide His face
I rest on His unchanging grace
In every high and stormy gale
My anchor holds within the veil
My anchor holds within the veil
Christ alone, Cornerstone
Weak made strong in the Savior's love
Through the storm
He is Lord
Lord of all
He is Lord
Lord of all, Christ alone
Christ alone, Cornerstone
Weak made strong in the Savior's love
Through the storm
He is Lord
Lord of all
Christ alone, Cornerstone
Weak made strong in the Savior's love
Through the storm
He is Lord
Lord of all
When he shall come with trumpet sound
Oh, may I then in Him be found
Dressed in His righteousness alone
Faultless, stand before the throne
Cornerstone
Oh, yeah, in the Savior's love
He is Lord
Lord of all
Christ alone, Cornerstone
Weak made strong in the Savior's love
Through the storm
He is Lord
Lord of all
Galatians 6:7-10 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A MAN REAPS WHAT HE SOWS. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.
Revelation 3:1-6 To the Church in Sardis “To the angel of the church in Sardis write: These are the words of him who holds the seven spirits of God and the seven stars. I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead. Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your deeds complete in the sight of my God. Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; obey it, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you. Yet you have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their clothes. They will walk with me, dressed in white, for they are worthy. He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
Luke 6:46 “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?
Revelation 3:1-6 To the Church in Sardis “To the angel of the church in Sardis write: These are the words of him who holds the seven spirits of God and the seven stars. I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead. Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your deeds complete in the sight of my God. Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; obey it, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you. Yet you have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their clothes. They will walk with me, dressed in white, for they are worthy. He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
Luke 6:46 “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?
Titus 1:15-16 to the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted. They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.
Yes Christians will
After working in electronics and software for over 40 years I adhered to the KISS method. (Keep It Simple Stupid). A corallary would be Keep It Short Stupid. The long dragged out posts are difficult to read and understand. Therefore I and many others ignore them!! Here is an example of short and to the point.
Why do so many ignore the Bible says faith without works is dead. Simply put:
No works no faith.
Longer version.
Faith is what saves Without works there is no salvation since the faith is dead.
Why do so many ignore the Bible says faith without works is dead. Simply put:
No works no faith.
Longer version.
Faith is what saves Without works there is no salvation since the faith is dead.
If a person stops producing there are several reasons why that might be.
1) they were seriously hurt in some kind of accident (God will judge))
2) they were deceiced (God will judge)
3) they still believe in Jesus, but they are too lazy and too busy to produce fruit for Jesus (God will judge)
3) they came to reject Jesus due to a zealous Jesus hater and the person accepted what they said (reject Jesus, Jesus rejects you - loss of salvation)
1) they were seriously hurt in some kind of accident (God will judge))
2) they were deceiced (God will judge)
3) they still believe in Jesus, but they are too lazy and too busy to produce fruit for Jesus (God will judge)
3) they came to reject Jesus due to a zealous Jesus hater and the person accepted what they said (reject Jesus, Jesus rejects you - loss of salvation)
Here is one of my 2 favorite hymns. It takes on special meaning when you consider who wrote it and what he did. In that era of sailing ships if the ship was in a storm that was bad they lightened the load by throwing cargo overboard. His cargo was slaves.
Amazing Grace hymn
John Newton (1725-1807):
The Former Slaver & Preacher. John Newton was an Anglican clergyman and former slave ship master. It took him a long time to speak out against the Slave Trade but he had an influence on many young evangelical Christians, particularly William Wilberforce.
Amazing Grace
Amazing Grace, How sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I once was lost, but now am found
T'was blind but now I see
T'was Grace that taught my heart to fear
And Grace, my fears relieved
How precious did that grace appear
The hour I first believed
Through many dangers, toils and snares
We have already come.
T'was grace that brought us safe thus far
And grace will lead us home,
And grace will lead us home
Amazing grace, Howe Sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I once was lost but now am found
T'was blind but now I see
Was blind, but now I see.
Amazing Grace hymn
John Newton (1725-1807):
The Former Slaver & Preacher. John Newton was an Anglican clergyman and former slave ship master. It took him a long time to speak out against the Slave Trade but he had an influence on many young evangelical Christians, particularly William Wilberforce.
Amazing Grace
Amazing Grace, How sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I once was lost, but now am found
T'was blind but now I see
T'was Grace that taught my heart to fear
And Grace, my fears relieved
How precious did that grace appear
The hour I first believed
Through many dangers, toils and snares
We have already come.
T'was grace that brought us safe thus far
And grace will lead us home,
And grace will lead us home
Amazing grace, Howe Sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I once was lost but now am found
T'was blind but now I see
Was blind, but now I see.
The seeds that fell on stony ground are ones that lost their gift. Here is how that worked. Seeds were thrown on rocky soil. They quickly sprang up, but because of no root, they were eventually gave up when the sun came out and whitered their leaves and they died.
Just like a person who accepts Jesus as their Lord and they have faith for only a season, but their roots in Jesus are not very deep and soon along comes a person and tells them something about Jesus that they don't understand and a mountain of information is given them that breaks their faith in Jesus. They therefore finally reject Jesus and the gift he offered them and fell away, never to be in his fold again. Perfect parable for the OSAS group.
Just like a person who accepts Jesus as their Lord and they have faith for only a season, but their roots in Jesus are not very deep and soon along comes a person and tells them something about Jesus that they don't understand and a mountain of information is given them that breaks their faith in Jesus. They therefore finally reject Jesus and the gift he offered them and fell away, never to be in his fold again. Perfect parable for the OSAS group.
You notice how ben, changes is his line of Theological position to get you to agree with him.
We have been telling him that after you are saved, it will produce fruit or a product of Love, that will validate HE Loves GOD and other believers. AND he was insisting that it is part of Salvation. The psuedo christian cults will also say something that you agree with, before they TWIST scriptures, to deceive you to believing their false theological position.