Not By Works
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Was Jesus a "real Christian" or Paul, Elijah or John the Baptist?
White washed coffins filled with the bones of dead men
Hypocrites
Snakes and vipers
Blind leaders of the blind
Real Christians have no problem using sarcsm, particular names and even whips if necessary....Maybe your pseudo religion keeps you from being a "real Christian"
White washed coffins filled with the bones of dead men
Hypocrites
Snakes and vipers
Blind leaders of the blind
Real Christians have no problem using sarcsm, particular names and even whips if necessary....Maybe your pseudo religion keeps you from being a "real Christian"
You refuse to learn, don't you?
Romans 3:27 (NCV)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] So do we have a reason to brag about ourselves? No!
And why not? It is the way of faith that stops all bragging, not the way of trying to obey the law.
Titus 3:4-7 (HCSB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] But when the goodness of God and His love for mankind appeared,
[SUP]5 [/SUP] He saved us— not by works of righteousness that we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] He poured out this ⌊Spirit⌋ on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
[SUP]7 [/SUP] so that having been justified by His grace, we may become heirs with the hope of eternal life.
Ephesians 2:8-10 (NCV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] I mean that you have been saved by grace through believing. You did not save yourselves; it was a gift from God.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] It was not the result of your own efforts, so you cannot brag about it.
{So that after HE SAVED US, [FONT="]✞[/FONT], the fruit we produce will be this ☟ }
[SUP]10 [/SUP] God has made us what we are. In Christ Jesus, God made us to do good works, which God planned in advance for us to live our lives doing.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SALVATION, SO STOP BRAGGING ABOUT IT. IT IS JESUS CHRIST IN US CARRYING OUT THE FATHERS PLAN. DO YOU REALIZE THAT? Or are you, Instead of SITTING IN AWE of what HE is doing in your life, you are apparently sitting bragging that GOD HAS TO SAVE ME, because LOOK WHAT I DID.
Galatians 2:20 (HCSB)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
Does that verse mean something to you?
Or are you too busy trying to EARN PART OF YOUR SALVATION?
non-obedient faith is called "dead" and "not able to save":
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 2:26, "For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so belief without works is dead also."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 2:14, “My brothers, what use is it for anyone to say he has belief but does not have works? This belief is unable to save him.”
I wonder if "unable to save" means not saved or saved?
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 2:26, "For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so belief without works is dead also."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 2:14, “My brothers, what use is it for anyone to say he has belief but does not have works? This belief is unable to save him.”
I wonder if "unable to save" means not saved or saved?
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Hi E-gratefull, good question, if works are required for salvation (they are not), then how many works will keep me saved? Most people who believe you are saved by grace plus your wonderful works will also believe that you can loose your eternal salvation. I did ask benhur if he believed he can loose his salvation but with no reply. The notion that our eternal salvation is contingent on our works, will support their belief that you can "loose your eternal salvation."
So what is the 'one' work that James required?
Because in James 2:17 he uses the plural word 'works'.
Because in James 2:18 he uses the plural word 'works'.
Because in James 2:20 he uses the plural word 'works'.
Seems like my use of the term 'many good works' is appropriate.
Jesus (God) required that we forgive all men their trespasses against us. That is 1 of X requirements.
Because in James 2:17 he uses the plural word 'works'.
Because in James 2:18 he uses the plural word 'works'.
Because in James 2:20 he uses the plural word 'works'.
Seems like my use of the term 'many good works' is appropriate.
Jesus (God) required that we forgive all men their trespasses against us. That is 1 of X requirements.
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Hi benhur, thank you for your honesty, most people will not admit that their eternal salvation can be lost. I will endure to the end also, so your assumption is wrong. It is "God who is able to keep me", not my plentiful good works.
Jude1:24
Now to "Him who is able to keep you" from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory blameless with great joy,
Jude1:24
Now to "Him who is able to keep you" from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory blameless with great joy,