Not By Works

[Seohce]

AMEN bro....and I believe JESUS when he said he will never leave me nor forsake me....and that he will keep me BY HIS POWER not what I do....and that HE will FINISH and COMPLETE the work of faith he began in me...and that I have ETERNAL LIFE and SALVATION NOW because of FAITH into his finished work.....etc........

dcon says;

BLAH BLAH BLAH more working for pseudo salvation.....My bible teaches salvation is a present CURRENT possession.....

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy HAS HE SAVED US <--PAST TENSE

YES..JESUS did become SIN for us....<--Only a deceiver would reject this truth as well....

He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

JESUS was BORN of a WOMAN, BORN UNDER THE LAW and “was CURSED” when he hung on a TREE....<--Only deceivers would reject the word of God which states as much....

Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us-- for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE "

FOLKS any and all who deny the above truths have proven they are not of GOD....DO NOT BELIEVE POST 59510..HE DENIES these truths and supplants them with HALF truths and deceit just like the garden when the serpent removed and then added his own words to the bible.......

Seohce

...”JESUS was BORN of a WOMAN, BORN UNDER THE LAW and “was CURSED” when he hung on a TREE....<--Only deceivers would reject the word of God which states as much....”

THIS IS A CLEAR DECLARATION BY DCON THAT JESUS WAS “CURSED”.

I DECLARE THAT OUR LORD JESUS IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD, PURE, HOLY AND UNDEFILED. HE IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE AND THE WORD THAT BECAME FLESH.

SINCE WHEN HAS THE GOSPEL CHANGED?

... THAT IF YOU CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH “JESUS IS LORD” …...AND YOU WILL BE SAVED. (rom 10:9)

John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,

God has said, “Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you.” So we say with confidence, “The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid. What can man do to me?” Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith. Jesus Christ is THE SAME yesterday and today and forever.(heb 13:5-8)

John 6:63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life.

Isaiah 5:20-24 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight. Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks, who acquit the guilty for a bribe, but deny justice to the innocent. Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for THEY HAVE REJECTED THE LAW OF THE LORD ALMIGHTY and SPURNED THE WORD OF THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL.

WOE TO THOSE WHO CALL JESUS “CURSED".

YOU HAVE TO GIVE ACCOUNT FOR THE FF;

FOR REJECTING THE LAW OF THE LORD ALMIGHTY
FOR HAVING SPURNED THE WORD OF THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL
FOR CALLING JESUS “CURSED".

Matthew 12:36-37 But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.”

 

[Seohce]

New International Version 1984 Matthew 13:11-15 He replied, “The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. This is why I speak to them in parables: “Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: “‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. For this people’s heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.’

 

[TruthTalk]

[video=youtube;KxhYXJOwKjY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxhYXJOwKjY[/video]

Wayfaring Stranger; Performed by Emmylou Harris

"The Wayfaring Stranger" (also known as "Poor Wayfaring Stranger" or "I Am a Poor Wayfaring Stranger"), is a well-known American folk and gospel song likely originating in the early 19th century about a plaintive soul on the journey through life. As with most folk songs, many variations of the lyrics exist.

Attribute:
Members of the Western Writers of America chose it as one of the Top 100 Western songs of all time.

 

[Seohce]

Isaiah 5:20-24 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight. Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks, who acquit the guilty for a bribe, but deny justice to the innocent. Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel.

 

[Seohce]

John 8:42-47 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me. Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”

 

[dcontroversal]

Did the working for, self saving one who rejects the momentarily cursed Messiah that hung on a cross and bore our sin say something.....nope.....what bliss....!

 

[TruthTalk]

Just think.....an apple seed falls to the ground, sprouts, is an apple tree from the very micro second it sprouts and takes years of growth and maturity to even bear 1 apple.....yet it was and is an apple tree long before it produces once micro gram of fruit....such is salvation..saved by faith and faith alone = child of God by birth BEFORE any fruit is produced.....or one work other than the work of the Heavenly Father in believing......

Hi decon, great example of our salvation.

 

[dcontroversal]

Hi decon, great example of our salvation.

Bible 101.....rejected by those who throw Jesus under the bus and then attempt to save themselves by works, religious persuasion and give the dog a bone religious hoops to jump through.....

 

[VCO]

I went ahead and put Seohce on ignore. He never actually attempts to answer anything. He just pastes the same things over and over and over again. He's a time-waster.

I misread your post, ".. . . He just prates the same things over and over and over again. He's a time-waster."


Prate: to talk excessively and pointlessly; babble:

I think it was just reading too fast, but it came across as appropriately describing his posts. LOL. Yes, I too had to put him on my IGNORE LIST. Mostly because it became obvious that he was not even responding to our questions, and just spewing his false doctrine, just to hear himself reiterating it. Reminds me of how the false doctrine teachers of his day, will be.

Matthew 6:7 (NRSV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] "When you are praying, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do; for they think that they will be heard because of their many words.

 

[Seohce]

Corinthians 11:13-15 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

 

[Seohce]

John 12:47-50 “As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day. For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it. I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”

 

[Seohce]

John 7:17-18 If anyone chooses to do God’s will, he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own. He who speaks on his own does so to gain honor for himself, but he who works for the honor of the one who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him.

 

[Seohce]

Luke 6:43-46 A Tree and Its Fruit “No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks. “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?

Romans 3:3-4 What if some did not have faith? Will their lack of faith nullify God’s faithfulness? Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: “So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge.”

 

[NoNameMcgee]

Corinthians 11:13-15 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

2 Corinthians 11
11 Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.

2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

 

[NoNameMcgee]

Luke 6:43-46 A Tree and Its Fruit “No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks. “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?

Romans 3:3-4 What if some did not have faith? Will their lack of faith nullify God’s faithfulness? Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: “So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge.”

Romans 8:16 - The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God

 

[Seohce]

Romans 9:4-5 the people of Israel. Theirs is the adoption as sons; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.

New International Version 1984 Ephesians 2:11-22 One in Christ Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (that done in the body by the hands of men)— remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ. For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace, and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit. Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God’s people and members of God’s household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.

Jude 1:19 These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.

 

[TruthTalk]

I misread your post, ".. . . He just prates the same things over and over and over again. He's a time-waster."


Prate: to talk excessively and pointlessly; babble:

I think it was just reading too fast, but it came across as appropriately describing his posts. LOL. Yes, I too had to put him on my IGNORE LIST. Mostly because it became obvious that he was not even responding to our questions, and just spewing his false doctrine, just to hear himself reiterating it. Reminds me of how the false doctrine teachers of his day, will be.

Matthew 6:7 (NRSV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] "When you are praying, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do; for they think that they will be heard because of their many words.

Hi VCO, sometimes using the ignore option is the best option, for me it was the ignore option,
"keep away from them"

Option of last resorts: Romans16:17
17) I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. "Keep away from them"

 

[dcontroversal]

Romans 8:16 - The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God

HAHAHAHHA makes me think of JESUS and how with a one liner of simple truth he shut down the hypocritical, false, working for teachers of his day as well......excellent........

 

[VCO]

I just had another thought about the Last Supper.

We have established that the Apostle JOHN who was eventually sent in exile to Patmos, who was in front of Jesus.

Now I think I can with a degree of certainly, that one at the back of Jesus, just about had to the betrayer, Judas.


Mark 14:18-20 (NKJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Now as they sat and ate, Jesus said, "Assuredly, I say to you, one of you who eats with Me will betray Me."
[SUP]19 [/SUP] And they began to be sorrowful, and to say to Him one by one, "Is it I?" And another said, "Is it I?"
[SUP]20 [/SUP] He answered and said to them, "It is one of the twelve, who dips with Me in the dish.


The Passover Meal would have had the Lamb in the form of a Pate, and the dishes would with the Pate would have been place about one every three people. That was so that it was convenient when you wanted to dip you Matzah bread into the Pate, it would not be too far of a reach. So it had to be JUDAS behind Jesus, the Back Stabber, that reached over the bowl of Lamb Pate, to dip his bread at the same time as Jesus did.

 

[Seohce]

Romans 13:8-14 Love, for the Day Is Near Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. The commandments, “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” “Do not covet,” and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. And do this, understanding the present time. The hour has come for you to wake up from your slumber, because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. The night is nearly over; the day is almost here. So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light. Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy. Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the sinful nature.

Romans 12:9,21 Love Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.