Not By Works

Shamah · Apr 3, 2018

praiseYah!

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Habakkuk 2:4, "Behold the proud, his soul is not right in him; but the just will live by faith."[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]faith” is word #H530 [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]אֱמוּנָה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]'emuwnah (em-oo-naw') n-f., [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]אֱמֻנָה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]'emunah (em-oo-naw') [shortened], 1. (literally) firmness., 2. (figuratively) security., 3. (morally) fidelity.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][feminine of H529], KJV: faith(-ful, -ly, -ness, (man)), set office, stability, steady, truly, truth, verily. , Root(s): H529

“faith” is word #H530 Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) 1) firmness, fidelity, steadfastness, steadiness

“faith” #H530 Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
Feminine of H0529; literally firmness; figuratively security; moral fidelity:—faith (-ful, -ly, -ness, [man]), set office, stability, steady, truly, truth, verily.

Strong's (Hebrew & Chaldee Dictionary of the Old Testament) #530. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]אֱמוּנָה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
emunah (53c); from 539; firmness, steadfastness, fidelity[/FONT]

dcontroversal · Apr 3, 2018

Yahshua said:

No offence, but you are disagreeing with the bible then.....explain the bolded below and how that is not a place or position.....

Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.

Budman · Apr 3, 2018

3000 pages.

Unbelievable.

TruthTalk · Apr 3, 2018

dcontroversal said:

Hi Decon, love that verse, Romans5:2 it was the verse I chose when I was baptized 40yrs ago, really.

We are "washed clean" by the blood of Jesus, no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus. If anyone has not made peace with God through His Son they should do so today. John14:6

Abraham Pleads for Sodom: Genesis18:23-25

23) Then Abraham approached him and said: “Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked?
24) What if there are fifty righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare[SUP]e[/SUP] the place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it?
25) Far be it from you to do such a thing—to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?”

More Than Conquerors: Romans8:33,34

33) Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies.
34) Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.

Katy-follower · Apr 3, 2018

Budman said:

How many times do you think James 2 has come up in here too...

I think probably one of the most memorized by now

Yahshua · Apr 3, 2018

dcontroversal said:

OK. So, what are we standing in if not a position?

Let's allow the scriptures to define itself...

Titus 2:11-14

11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men.

12 It instructs us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live soberly, upright, and godly lives in the present age, as we await the blessed hope and glorious appearance of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.

14 Who gave Himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds.

1 Peter 1:2-4

2 Grace and peace be multiplied to you through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord.

3 His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through the knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence.

4 Through these He has given us His precious and magnificent promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, now that you have escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

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Grace is God's divine power to live a holy life and not sin. We stand in His Strength. We grow in His Strength. We multiply in His Strength. That is the gift; to receive the same supernatural strength Christ had during his ministry to resist sin. That is the magnificent gift of salvation we could never work to earn, which is only given through faith.

Romans 5:2

Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ through whom also we have obtained our [access by faith into his divine strength] in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.

TruthTalk · Apr 3, 2018

dcontroversal said:

Hey decon, your preaching is as straight as an arrow, how about a new screen name, "Arrow Man",

Budman · Apr 3, 2018

Katy-follower said:

You know, if those who espouse good works as necessary for salvation actually used the time they spend here doing good works, they could literally change the world!

NoNameMcgee · Apr 3, 2018

1 John 5
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
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8104. shamar ►
Strong's Concordance
shamar: to keep, watch, preserve
Original Word: שָׁמַר
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: shamar
Phonetic Spelling: (shaw-mar')
Short Definition: keep
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. root
Definition
to keep, watch, preserve

ya
it is not a grievous to guard and watch and keep His commandments...

it feels wonderful for His children who are saved already

we KNOW that we HAVE eternal life....

and are kept by the power of God our Father

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wolves ignore context

post random verses in an attempt to peddle their "flimsy grace theology"

revolving door salvationists

from the church of do it yourself

1 peter 1

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

NoNameMcgee · Apr 3, 2018

romans 9

30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.

31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.

32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Romans 10
10 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth

this is like a perfect example of some here on CC

it is so sad

dcontroversal · Apr 3, 2018

Katy-follower said:

AND still misapplied by the working for that devalue the work of JESUS on our behalf.....

BillG · Apr 3, 2018

TruthTalk said:

Hi Decon, love that verse, Romans5:2 it was the verse I chose when I was baptized 40yrs ago, really.

We are "washed clean" by the blood of Jesus, no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus. If anyone has not made peace with God through His Son they should do so today. John14:6

Abraham Pleads for Sodom: Genesis18:23-25

23) Then Abraham approached him and said: “Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked?
24) What if there are fifty righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare[SUP]e[/SUP] the place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it?
25) Far be it from you to do such a thing—to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?”

More Than Conquerors: Romans8:33,34

33) Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies.
34) Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.

I love how God and Abraham talked together.
Abraham heart for Sodom, Gods willingness to listen.

Relationship,

That is what God wants.
That is what we should seek.

Does God want our works or our hearts?

dcontroversal · Apr 3, 2018

Yahshua said:

No one denies the cited verses.....a person is either GUILTY UNDER the LAW or PLACED into the positioning of GRACE (WHEREIN WE NOW STAND)...does not change the multifaceted aspect of grace and how it is applied....NO different that an umbrella....I am STANDING UNDER GRACE......just as IF I was standing UNDER a TREE IN MY YARD it is a POSITION afforded unto those who have actually trusted into the saving faith of CHRIST biblically! <--regardless of your ability to see it or believe it

NoNameMcgee · Apr 3, 2018

BillG said:

amen brother

Budman · Apr 3, 2018

Do you still sin?

eternally-gratefull · Apr 3, 2018

Budman said:

who will get the 60000?

Budman · Apr 3, 2018

eternally-gratefull said:

I hope it's Dcon. It's his baby.

eternally-gratefull · Apr 3, 2018

Budman said:

Only 2 more to go unless some else posted before this post.

NoNameMcgee · Apr 3, 2018

Budman said:

Isaiah 53:11 - He shall see of the travail of his soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Galatians 2:16 - Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Budman · Apr 3, 2018

NoNameMcgee said:

McGee spikes the ball!

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