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Thank you BillG, My wife and I will go see the Oncologist this Friday. My Labs will be done by then and we will get a picture of where I stand, of course we are all praying for excellent results. Just to let you know BillG it is through the support of folks like you and our wonderful Savior that give us hope for tomorrow. By this Friday I will let you and the awesome people here on this thread know what my Lab results are, praise God! Treatments are rough but I'm tolerating everything well. God bless!
We have all prayed for you bro.....keep swinging.....and do some research on the fruit from the tropical rain forest in Queensland.....it seems to be stopping many cancers dead in their tracks....also....I had a friend who had a softball size tumor in the middle of his back that was growing...he started making colloidal silver and started injecting it into the tumor and the tumor shrunk and went away....after studying colloidal silver i was amazed at all that I have found...it kills 500 known pathogens in less than 5 minutes, Romans, Greeks, Jews, Settlers and numerous other civilizations have used silver to purify water, kill fungus, diseases, keeps milk from curdling, sweetens wells, etc....the saying sucking on a silver spoon comes from the rich and their children not being as sick because of the silver....it will keep mold from growing on jelly, cure yeast infections, foot fungus etc......research it.....it may help you if what your doing falls short brother.....
So it appears that 777pinacle has been a troll all of this time. presenting himself as a legitimate poster, he has revealed himself as a fool who has come here to destroy one of the fnest threads ever. He may be an angry poster who was banned but we may never know for sure.
This you can be assured of; he has just now decided to show his "True Colors", he is an impostor and a liar and treachery is his MO. The accusations he has made against this thread is a lie and he should be banned for being a trouble maker I pray.
This you can be assured of; he has just now decided to show his "True Colors", he is an impostor and a liar and treachery is his MO. The accusations he has made against this thread is a lie and he should be banned for being a trouble maker I pray.
How difficult is it to understand the words of Jesus: If you do not forgive men their trespasses against you, my Father will not forgive your trespasses against him. IOW unless you do this saying of Jesus, your sins will not be forgiven, and you will not be saved. This is not hard to understand either.
So who gets the priority? The words of Jesus or the words of Paul?
So who gets the priority? The words of Jesus or the words of Paul?
The words of Paul are the words of JESUS.....He inspired PAUL.....and the words of JESUS must be viewed in light of the fact that he was born, lived and died under the LAW which RATIFIED the NEW Covenant of the which PAUL was inspired by JESUS to cover....why is that so hard to understand.....
Under the LAW eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth <-----JESUS
UNDER the NEW Covenant GRACE <---WORDS of PAUL inspired BY JESUS
PLUS....the scripture you continually cite has nothing to do with salvation!
Under the LAW eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth <-----JESUS
UNDER the NEW Covenant GRACE <---WORDS of PAUL inspired BY JESUS
PLUS....the scripture you continually cite has nothing to do with salvation!
and ole paul cited something about going to law against one another.
How dare one of you with a complaint against another go to Court before Torahless(lawless(pagan!"judges >and not before God’s people? 2 Don’t you know that God’s people are going to judge the universe? If you are going to judge the universe, are you incompetent to judge these minor matters? 3 Don’t you know that we will judge angels, not to mention affairs of everyday life? 4 So if you require judgments about matters of everyday life, why do you put them in front of men who have no standing in the Messianic Community? 5 I say, shame on you! Can it be that there isn’t one person among you wise enough to be able to settle a dispute between brothers? 6 Instead, a brother brings a lawsuit against another brother, and that before unbelievers!
7 Actually, if you are bringing lawsuits against each other, it is already a defeat for you. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? 8 Instead, you yourselves wrong and cheat; and you do it to your own brothers! 9 Don’t you know that unrighteous people will have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don’t delude yourselves — people who engage in sex before marriage, who worship idols, who engage in sex after marriage with someone other than their spouse, who engage in active or passive homosexuality, 10 who steal, who are greedy, who get drunk, who assail people with contemptuous language, who rob — none of them will share in the Kingdom of God. 11
Some of you used to do these things. But you have cleansed yourselves, you have been set apart for God, you have come to be counted righteous through the power of the Lord Yeshua the Messiah and the Spirit of our God.
Holy Spirit
Torah of Spirit(life)
Ruach Haqodosh
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Thank you decon I will study, "making colloidal silver." I have tried all sorts of concoctions while I was still retired in Thailand. We have tried "Backed Black Sesame Seeds", from Thailand, it dropped my psa from 100 to 75 last month.
The treatment I'm receiving now is called "Radium 223" (Xofigo), a single injection per month with tolerable side effects. $11,000.00 per injection each month for 6 months, $66,000.00, grand total.
Again thank you and I won't forget.
God bless!
The treatment I'm receiving now is called "Radium 223" (Xofigo), a single injection per month with tolerable side effects. $11,000.00 per injection each month for 6 months, $66,000.00, grand total.
Again thank you and I won't forget.
God bless!
Sure......but why not use all proof when it comes to proving immersion.....the word itself comes from a word that is tied to a ship sinking under the water...... 
The Baptism is A Signal and Call from those who have.......
And anyone who knows the Torah of Life would recognizes that the Kingdom prepared has twelve foundations.
Easy to make and costs abut 1 dollar for 168 doses after initial set up maybe $30 to $40
1 gallon distilled water
1 glass cup (coffee)
sea salt
charger for a rechargeable drill
2 alligator clips
2 paper clips
2 silver dollars (99 troy OZ silver or 2 silver bars from Jewelry Store) price of silver
Split charger cord and wire alligator clip to each end of split.
Drill small hole in each coin on edge
Bend paper clips to hold coins
Boil 1 cup of distilled water
Add sea salt to increase conductivity
Pour water into cup
Hang coins or bars in cup opposite each other, in the water and make sure water level is below paper clips
Hook alligator clips to coins opposite each other
Plug in and watch the silver peel off in 15 atom silver particles (suspended) <---colloidal
Keep plugged in for 20 to 30 minutes
Unplug take coins out softly to keep the black build up on coins
Pour into your gallon of distilled water = 168 liquid oz....take 1 oz a day....
takes a few weeks to build up in your system and I will tell you that it cured my arthritis.....I could not even pop my knuckles and after taking it I can pop my knuckles and have less of a problem....arthritis is a infection....
after initial set up maybe $30 to $401 gallon distilled water
1 glass cup (coffee)
sea salt
charger for a rechargeable drill
2 alligator clips
2 paper clips
2 silver dollars (99 troy OZ silver or 2 silver bars from Jewelry Store) price of silver
Split charger cord and wire alligator clip to each end of split.
Drill small hole in each coin on edge
Bend paper clips to hold coins
Boil 1 cup of distilled water
Add sea salt to increase conductivity
Pour water into cup
Hang coins or bars in cup opposite each other, in the water and make sure water level is below paper clips
Hook alligator clips to coins opposite each other
Plug in and watch the silver peel off in 15 atom silver particles (suspended) <---colloidal
Keep plugged in for 20 to 30 minutes
Unplug take coins out softly to keep the black build up on coins
Pour into your gallon of distilled water = 168 liquid oz....take 1 oz a day....
takes a few weeks to build up in your system and I will tell you that it cured my arthritis.....I could not even pop my knuckles and after taking it I can pop my knuckles and have less of a problem....arthritis is a infection....
I have asked you before about what you mean that Jesus lived and died under the Law of Moses.
Does it mean that Jesus's words are no longer valid. For instance you use for an example of Jesus's words is 'an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth'. Since these words have been superceded by the new testament concept of turn the other cheek, is this a model for all of Christ's words: that they are bound by the Law of Moses and therefore superceded by the NT concepts of Paul, who was inspired by Jesus. Anyway explain what you mean when you say that Jesus lived and died under the Law of Moses.
The scripture I cite, has everything to do with salvation since it is a determining factor in whether your sins are forgiven. If God does not forgive your sins, you have no salvation. Salvation is being saved in the KOG. If God does not wipe away your sins you will not be able to go to the KOG. Only sinless people go there. Therefore, I would conclude that Matthew 6:15 has everything to do with salvation.
If you disagree with that, then tell me why you do not believe that Matthew 6:15 has nothing to do with salvation.
Does it mean that Jesus's words are no longer valid. For instance you use for an example of Jesus's words is 'an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth'. Since these words have been superceded by the new testament concept of turn the other cheek, is this a model for all of Christ's words: that they are bound by the Law of Moses and therefore superceded by the NT concepts of Paul, who was inspired by Jesus. Anyway explain what you mean when you say that Jesus lived and died under the Law of Moses.
The scripture I cite, has everything to do with salvation since it is a determining factor in whether your sins are forgiven. If God does not forgive your sins, you have no salvation. Salvation is being saved in the KOG. If God does not wipe away your sins you will not be able to go to the KOG. Only sinless people go there. Therefore, I would conclude that Matthew 6:15 has everything to do with salvation.
If you disagree with that, then tell me why you do not believe that Matthew 6:15 has nothing to do with salvation.
Blessed are the peace makers whos feet are shod
Children of God
(1) Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered;
let those who hate him flee from his presence.
3 (2) Drive them away as smoke is driven away;
like wax melting in the presence of a fire,
let the wicked perish in the presence of God.
4 (3) But let the righteous rejoice and be glad in God’s presence;
yes, let them exult and rejoice.
5 (4) Sing to God, sing praises to his name;
extol him who rides on the clouds
by his name, Yah;
and be glad in his presence.
6 (5) God in his holy dwelling,
is a father to orphans and defender of widows.
7 (6) God gives homes to those who are alone
and leads prisoners out into prosperity.
But rebels must live in a parched wasteland.
8 (7) God, when you went out at the head of your people,
when you marched out through the wilderness, (Selah)
9 (8) the earth quaked, and rain poured from the sky,
at the presence of God.
Even Sinai [shook] at the presence of God,
the God of Isra’el.
10 (9) You rained down showers in plenty, God;
when your heritage was weary, you restored it.
11 (10) Your flock settled in it;
in your goodness, God, you provided for the poor.
12 (11) Adonai gives the command;
the women with the good news are a mighty army.
13 (12) Kings and their armies are fleeing, fleeing,
while the women at home divide the spoil.
14 (13) Even if you lie among the animal stalls,
there are wings of a dove covered with silver
and its plumes with green gold.
15 (14) When Shaddai scatters kings there,
snow falls on Tzalmon.
16 (15) You mighty mountain, Mount Bashan!
You rugged mountain, Mount Bashan!
17 (16) You rugged mountain, why look with envy
at the mountain God wants for his place to live?
Truly, Adonai will live there forever.
18 (17) God’s chariots are myriads, repeated thousands;
Adonai is among them as in Sinai, in holiness.
19 (18) After you went up into the heights,
you led captivity captive,
you took gifts among mankind,
yes, even among the rebels,
so that Yah, God, might live there.
20 (19) Blessed be Adonai!
Every day he bears our burden,
does God, our salvation. (Selah)
21 (20) Our God is a God who saves;
from Adonai Adonai comes escape from death.
22 (21) God will surely crush the heads of his enemies,
the hairy crowns of those who continue in their guilt.
23 (22) Adonai said, “I will bring them back from Bashan,
I will fetch [those rebels] even from the depths of the sea;
24 (23) so that you can wash your feet in their blood,
and your dogs’ tongues too can get their share from your foes.
25 (24) They see your processions, God,
the processions of my God, my king, in holiness.
26 (25) The singers are in front, the musicians last,
in the middle are girls playing tambourines.
27 (26) “In choruses, bless God, Adonai,
you whose source is Isra’el.”
28 (27) There is Binyamin, the youngest, at the head;
the princes of Y’hudah, crowding along;
the princes of Z’vulun; the princes of Naftali.
29 (28) God, summon your strength!
Use your strength, God, as you did for us before,
30 (29) from your temple in Yerushalayim,
where kings will bring tribute to you.
31 (30) Rebuke the wild beast of the reeds,
that herd of bulls with their calves, the peoples,
who ingratiate themselves with bars of silver;
let him scatter the peoples who take pleasure in fighting.
32 (31) Let envoys come from Egypt,
Let Ethiopia stretch out its hands to God.
33 (32) Sing to God, kingdoms of the earth!
Sing praises to Adonai, (Selah)
34 (33) to him who rides on the most ancient heavens.
Listen, as he utters his voice, a mighty voice!
35 (34) Acknowledge that strength belongs to God,
with his majesty over Isra’el and his strength in the skies.
36 (35) How awe-inspiring you are, God,
from your holy places,
the God of Isra’el, who gives strength
and power to the people.
Blessed be God!
Children of God
(1) Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered;
let those who hate him flee from his presence.
3 (2) Drive them away as smoke is driven away;
like wax melting in the presence of a fire,
let the wicked perish in the presence of God.
4 (3) But let the righteous rejoice and be glad in God’s presence;
yes, let them exult and rejoice.
5 (4) Sing to God, sing praises to his name;
extol him who rides on the clouds
by his name, Yah;
and be glad in his presence.
6 (5) God in his holy dwelling,
is a father to orphans and defender of widows.
7 (6) God gives homes to those who are alone
and leads prisoners out into prosperity.
But rebels must live in a parched wasteland.
8 (7) God, when you went out at the head of your people,
when you marched out through the wilderness, (Selah)
9 (8) the earth quaked, and rain poured from the sky,
at the presence of God.
Even Sinai [shook] at the presence of God,
the God of Isra’el.
10 (9) You rained down showers in plenty, God;
when your heritage was weary, you restored it.
11 (10) Your flock settled in it;
in your goodness, God, you provided for the poor.
12 (11) Adonai gives the command;
the women with the good news are a mighty army.
13 (12) Kings and their armies are fleeing, fleeing,
while the women at home divide the spoil.
14 (13) Even if you lie among the animal stalls,
there are wings of a dove covered with silver
and its plumes with green gold.
15 (14) When Shaddai scatters kings there,
snow falls on Tzalmon.
16 (15) You mighty mountain, Mount Bashan!
You rugged mountain, Mount Bashan!
17 (16) You rugged mountain, why look with envy
at the mountain God wants for his place to live?
Truly, Adonai will live there forever.
18 (17) God’s chariots are myriads, repeated thousands;
Adonai is among them as in Sinai, in holiness.
19 (18) After you went up into the heights,
you led captivity captive,
you took gifts among mankind,
yes, even among the rebels,
so that Yah, God, might live there.
20 (19) Blessed be Adonai!
Every day he bears our burden,
does God, our salvation. (Selah)
21 (20) Our God is a God who saves;
from Adonai Adonai comes escape from death.
22 (21) God will surely crush the heads of his enemies,
the hairy crowns of those who continue in their guilt.
23 (22) Adonai said, “I will bring them back from Bashan,
I will fetch [those rebels] even from the depths of the sea;
24 (23) so that you can wash your feet in their blood,
and your dogs’ tongues too can get their share from your foes.
25 (24) They see your processions, God,
the processions of my God, my king, in holiness.
26 (25) The singers are in front, the musicians last,
in the middle are girls playing tambourines.
27 (26) “In choruses, bless God, Adonai,
you whose source is Isra’el.”
28 (27) There is Binyamin, the youngest, at the head;
the princes of Y’hudah, crowding along;
the princes of Z’vulun; the princes of Naftali.
29 (28) God, summon your strength!
Use your strength, God, as you did for us before,
30 (29) from your temple in Yerushalayim,
where kings will bring tribute to you.
31 (30) Rebuke the wild beast of the reeds,
that herd of bulls with their calves, the peoples,
who ingratiate themselves with bars of silver;
let him scatter the peoples who take pleasure in fighting.
32 (31) Let envoys come from Egypt,
Let Ethiopia stretch out its hands to God.
33 (32) Sing to God, kingdoms of the earth!
Sing praises to Adonai, (Selah)
34 (33) to him who rides on the most ancient heavens.
Listen, as he utters his voice, a mighty voice!
35 (34) Acknowledge that strength belongs to God,
with his majesty over Isra’el and his strength in the skies.
36 (35) How awe-inspiring you are, God,
from your holy places,
the God of Isra’el, who gives strength
and power to the people.
Blessed be God!
why is it hard for you to understand what I have said.....Jesus was under the law, what he said had to be applicable to that time frame...HIS death RATIFIED a NEW COVENANT of GRACE, the CONDEMNATION of the LAW is no longer LEVELED at those who believe. And the words he speaks in MATTHEW MUST be vied in light of this truth. THOSE in CHRIST are NOT condemned by the LAW, but rather dealt with as CHILDREN and chastised...they are NOT cast away LOST, but whipped as a child to yield the peaceable fruits of righteousness.....again...the words have nothing to do with losing salvation.....salvation CANNOT be lost......rewards, honor and possible positions in the Kingdom as a ruler can be, but our standing as a child by BIRTH is eternally secure in Christ, as is our position!