KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLES

[KJV1611]

You just prefer the KJV readings over other readings.

But it does not mean that your preference is good or that the difference between the KJV and other translations should be any serious issue.

I do because I've found it 100% reliable.

 

[Magenta]

Everything I talk about and get beat over head about lol.

The BDF is like this sometimes...

 

[trofimus]

Where else would he come up with this concept?

" the Father in the Son and the
Son in the Paraclete makes three who cohere"

He is not quoting. Thats clear.

Triunity teaching was always present in church. Its irrelevant where Tertullion got it from. He simply cannot be used as a proof that in his times 1J 5:17 was in the Bible.

He would certainly quote it fully, it would perfectly fit his needs.

Also, its very sad that the rest of your evidence are very vague sources, without specific chapters, verses etc so that we can not verify more of them.

 

[KJV1611]

He is not quoting. That clear.

Triunity was always present in church. Its irrelevant where Tertullion got it from. He simply cannot be used as proof that in his times 1J 5:17 was in the Bible.

He would certainly quote it fully, it would perfectly fit his needs.

Show some verses that says all three are one.

 

[trofimus]

I do because I've found it 100% reliable.

We havent found it to be 100% reliable.

And thats what this is all about

 

[trofimus]

Show some verses that says all three are one.

No. My case is that Tertullian is not quoting. Thats enough. I do not have to research his faith.

 

[KJV1611]

We havent found it to be 100% reliable.

And thats what this is all about

I'm on a different wavelength most.

 

[Magenta]

Show some verses that says all three are one.

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father,
the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7
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[KJV1611]

No. My case is that Tertullian is not quoting. Thats enough for the case.

OK then tackle the rest of them lol. As for me, I'm out for dinner with my lovely wife.

 

[KJV1611]

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father,
the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7
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Trof is saying that verse shouldn't be in the Bible and that tortia linguini wasn't quoted 1 John 5:7 lol.

 

[trofimus]

OK then tackle the rest of them lol. As for me, I'm out for dinner with my lovely wife.

I am going to sleep, its a midnight here

Try to find some other evidence in your list, maybe you can find a real quotation. But because the sources are so vague, I am afraid you will not be able to localize it

 

[KJV1611]

I am going to sleep, its a midnight here

Try to find some other evidence in your list, maybe you can find a real quotation. But because the sources are so vague, I am afraid you will not be able to localize it

I think I could say black and you would automatically say white my friend. Go get some sleep and we can pick up tomorrow. Good night.

 

[Joseppi]

Only a very small minorityOnly the autographs (original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts) are inspired.

Why do you believe that only the handwritten originals are inspired?

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

All this talk about Easter and Passover is much ado about nothing. I believe that the KJB translators should have transliterated Pascha as Pascha, since it covers more than just the Passover. However we need to keep in mind that by the 17th century, Easter had already become an established Christian festival.

Also it would appear that "Easter" and "Pascha" had become interchangeable at the time that the KJB was translated, and "the days of unleavened bread" followed Passover (Acts 12:3). So while Pascha was for the Jews (including both Passover and the days of unleavened bread), Easter was the corresponding festival for Christians at the time of translation (since the resurrection followed the Passover). In hindsight, we could say that the King James translators should have simply transliterated Pascha.

Those who are trying to diminish the value and integrity of the King James Bible by citing this example prefer to ignore the fact that this was not an issue for anyone until the anti-KJV propaganda started. On the other hand, the errors and omissions of the modern versions are so overwhelming, that this is totally insignificant. Any preacher worth his salt would simply clarify the issue instead of trying to beat down the KJB because of this word.

UNBELIEVABLE

Drop the pretence that we are beating down the KJV. We are simply defending other translations from attack not trying to annihilate the KJB. That point has been made clear time and again by many posters. Not good enough? No! You want KJV worship. Your play-act as the paragon of orthodoxy has collapsed like a cheap deck of cards on this one post alone. Your Christian integrity is in tatters.

The scatter-brained ideas of the KJ-Only supporters posting here are unacceptable in a stable Christian environment. They've piled heresy on pernicious heresy. And you turn up here to chastise and rebuke- not the heretical views but the obvious defenders of the faith and voices of reason. On top of that you heap even more false accusation and abuse onto the written word of God! You are dealing most dishonestly with your brothers.

You utter pharisee!

Verily Verily I say unto you, "Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting."

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Instead of criticizing me for telling the truth, why don't you calmly and objectively examine the actual evidence which exposes the critical texts and the modern translations? There are plenty of books and articles to clearly establish the inferiority of the modern versions. More importantly, a hoax was perpetrated on the Christian world, and it is now being perpetuated.

BTW, you won't find the word "attack" in my post, just "anti-KJV propaganda". And as you know propaganda is "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view".

Used widely by the KJVO Cult followers.

"Corruption" the favourite parrot-word. Used nefariously by KJVO proponents to assault "modern bibles" and the Christians who read them.

 

[Dino246]

Instead of criticizing me for telling the truth, why don't you calmly and objectively examine the actual evidence which exposes the critical texts and the modern translations? There are plenty of books and articles to clearly establish the inferiority of the modern versions. More importantly, a hoax was perpetrated on the Christian world, and it is now being perpetuated.

Why should I take advice from you about "calmly and objectively" examining evidence when you rudely and insultingly refuse to do the same thing?

 

[SovereignGrace]

I do because I've found it 100% reliable.

Suuuuuure...

A Latin word employed that now has ppl erroneously attributing the King of Babylon as being another name for Satan, and adding 'Easter', a pagan fertility goddess that uses a bunny and an egg, to say it has always been celebrated as the Christ's resurrection.

Yep, sure seems to be 100% spot on to me.

 

[SovereignGrace]

1 John 5:7 not found in many earlier mss...
John 7:53-8:11 not found in many earlier mss...
Mark 16:9-20 not found in some earlier mss...but more than John 7:53-8:11

Latin word used for 'Lucifer' has ppl in a tizzy stating Lucifer is Satan's name before his rebellion...
Easter inserted in place of Pascha, when it means Passover...

This is a very reliable bible. No errors whatsoever.

 

[Locutus]

Suuuuuure...

A Latin word employed that now has ppl erroneously attributing the King of Babylon as being another name for Satan, and adding 'Easter', a pagan fertility goddess that uses a bunny and an egg, to say it has always been celebrated as the Christ's resurrection.

Yep, sure seems to be 100% spot on to me.

1 John 5:7 not found in many earlier mss...
John 7:53-8:11 not found in many earlier mss...
Mark 16:9-20 not found in some earlier mss...but more than John 7:53-8:11

Latin word used for 'Lucifer' has ppl in a tizzy stating Lucifer is Satan's name before his rebellion...
Easter inserted in place of Pascha, when it means Passover...

This is a very reliable bible. No errors whatsoever.

And - one more Christ than all the modern versions.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

I see yet another Onlyist thread has cropped up.