LOL...that's called giving them a wedgie...Oh wait, I mixed up my terms. I was thinking to pants someone was to yank their underwears up. What's that called? Is pantsing someone to pull their pants down...? Sorry, I don't condone that.
Anger and sin
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Up is a wedgie. Down is cover-your-retinas... lol
LOL...that's called giving them a wedgie...
Thanks for the clarification. You've saved me future embarrassment. You want your coffee back?
Nope. I saw you spit in it so I couldn't take it back... lol
Thanks for the clarification. You've saved me future embarrassment. You want your coffee back?
Yeah, 1ofthem, it's good to understand a situation and it's good to just be honest. It's no good to believe ourselves to be not angry when we really are. That's just delusion. Walking in truth is admitting having a problem forgiving someone for something awful they've done. It isn't walking in delusion.
Walking in truth means being honest, not perfect.
Walking in truth means being honest, not perfect.
There's also the tricky situation of road rage. People drive like maniacs daily. People die in accidents daily. Are those Christians in hell because they didn't get a chance to ask for forgiveness from that moment of anger? The Bible does say to confess our sins. I don't think some things can be taken literally.
You bring up good points. All I can say though, is God knows the heart of everyone and he is the judge. He knows all the circumstances and situations each person faces and he is the only true judge.
You really have brought some interesting points up, though...GBY
Amen...good post. We have to be honest about it and work it out with God and not just give the lip service of saying we forgive someone if we truly don't. It is much better to be honest and put it in God's hands and let him help us with it.
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Ariel82
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Some people have a very unhealthy love of self...Some folks hate themselves.
I believe Jesus changed the second commandment to "you shall love others as I have loved You"
Jesus loved us so much He was willing to die for us even When we were enemies..,.do we love others like that?
We are only able by God's love,mercy and grace.
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Ariel82
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I think the verse isn't about "getting over it in a day", but for us to give it to God every night.
Admit that we are anger and fruattrated and maybe even scared or worried? But trust God to work on our hearts and minds and help us heal and learn solutions to cope and become who He wants us to be.
Being angry all the time is stressful and your body can't rest and heal at night if you hold onto the anger.
At some point we have to let go and give it to God.
In the morning we can wake up, still angry and pray.
If we listen God will tell us more about our hearts and minds and His truth.
We may still be angry, but can we trust that God will see justice done?
Can we love even those who have hurt us?
It's hard but God eventually teaches us this.
Remember Peter cut off the guards ear? Peter had serious anger issues but Jesus taught him to love and feed His sheep.
He teaches us the same.
This is a great question. ... This Scripture does not say Y-shua was agery; it says: Mat. 21:10-14 When Y-shua/Jesus entered Jerusalem, the whole city was stirred and asked, "Who is this?"The crowds answered, "This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee. Y-shua/Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. "It is written," he said to them, "'My house will be called a house of prayer,' but you are making it 'a den of robbers. The blind and the lame came to him at the temple, and he healed them.
Where does it say Y-shua was angry?
This is a great question. ... This Scripture does not say Y-shua was agery; it says: Mat. 21:10-14 When Y-shua/Jesus entered Jerusalem, the whole city was stirred and asked, "Who is this?"The crowds answered, "This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee. Y-shua/Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. "It is written," he said to them, "'My house will be called a house of prayer,' but you are making it 'a den of robbers. The blind and the lame came to him at the temple, and he healed them.
Where does it say Y-shua was angry?
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Not really. Then again, very hard not to go to it as our go-to method.
Truthfully, the only times I really had to use self defense to protect myself, I didn't have time to be angry. Fear was the emotion.
I agree that holding onto all that anger hurts the individual in the end. I go back to what I said about grieving, though. I don't think anyone is in the right to rush a parent to move on losing a son or daughter. Since anger is a valid part of the grieving process, when should a parent just get over the loss? That's a bit tricky. Sure, we are to bring things to God daily. But God is understanding. He could have easily made us like robots. But He didn't.
GOD is angry with the wicked every day (Psalm 7:11), and to love GOD is to hate evil (Psalm 97:10, Proverbs 8:13, Amos 5:15).
The potential problem with anger is that it can lead to an unforgiving attitude. Or it can be the wrong kind of anger altogether - being angry with someone without cause (Matthew 5:22).
The potential problem with anger is that it can lead to an unforgiving attitude. Or it can be the wrong kind of anger altogether - being angry with someone without cause (Matthew 5:22).
I use the KJV but in the case of the phrase; “ be ye angry and yet not sin” . I would prefer another translation like the NIV.
“In your anger do not sin”[d]: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, Ephesians 4 :26 NIV
In your anger seems to be more appropriate. The “be ye angry” seems like a directive giving person freedom in one sense to lose self control the fruit of His Spirit not ours or at least in the heart of natural man.
While the NIV recognizes we are angry people that live in a body of sin that can seek after revenge as a frustrated creation that longs to be clothed in the eternal. The first fruits of the Spirit of God who works in us is His Love in patient. therfore the second aspect His love is kind. If it is not patient it will not be kind, and tenderhearted as is His love for us
In James we are informed that man’s anger does not bring about the righteousness life God desires. It would seem to conflict the idea of "be ye angry ".
My Pastor said this . When men are angry with God we tend to look for fault in people
“In your anger do not sin”[d]: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, Ephesians 4 :26 NIV
In your anger seems to be more appropriate. The “be ye angry” seems like a directive giving person freedom in one sense to lose self control the fruit of His Spirit not ours or at least in the heart of natural man.
While the NIV recognizes we are angry people that live in a body of sin that can seek after revenge as a frustrated creation that longs to be clothed in the eternal. The first fruits of the Spirit of God who works in us is His Love in patient. therfore the second aspect His love is kind. If it is not patient it will not be kind, and tenderhearted as is His love for us
In James we are informed that man’s anger does not bring about the righteousness life God desires. It would seem to conflict the idea of "be ye angry ".
My Pastor said this . When men are angry with God we tend to look for fault in people
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Ariel82
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Letting go of anger isn't the same as pushing people to let go of grieving.
Often anger is a mask to hide the hurt and pain and sense of helplessness.
Part of grieving is admittng that you have more feelings then just anger.
Some people will get angry at God. God can handle it and still loves them. Hopefully we can do the same.
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I cannot hurt you. You cannot hurt me. We can both make each other angry though.
Emotional hurt can only happen when someone you care about wrongs you, or you perceive that you were wronged. We don't know each other well enough to hurt each other.
Sometimes anger is masked hurt. We don't want to hurt, well, because hurt hurts. So, it is easier to get angry at the one who perceptibly hurt us. When a love one dies, it is the worst kind of hurt. I'd rather someone shoot me then to go through that kind of hurt. If I'm shot, either they take the bullet out and I heal or I die. Either way, that pain isn't as long a pain as someone I love dying. Missing the loved one will hurt for the rest of my life.
And who else can we blame but God, unless we can blame someone negligent enough to cause the death? So we go with angry, when we're masking hurt. It isn't a requirement of the grieving process. (Katherine Kuhbler-Ross was found to be inaccurate. The Five Stages of Grief is wrong.)
I am hurt when a loved one dies. Awfully hurt. But I've become way too lazy to waste time building that hurt into full-blown anger anymore. Just too much effort, especially since I'm hurt. (Hurt = weakened too.) Do parents have the right to be angry over the death of a child?
I really don't know. I've seen no indications in the Bible that people have rights any which way. Rights seem to be a man-made notion.
Hurt. Awfully hurt! And at best the hurt dulls over the years. I don't think it ever goes away. I'd hate to compound the hurt by keeping anger as long as keeping the hurt. Anger tends to go in nasty directions -- bitterness.
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