GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

LoveGodForever · Mar 16, 2018

Of course God’s Word teaches that we are to BELIEVE God's WORD and LOVE God and one another (Matt 22:36-40) You leave out the part where Jesus says ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS (v40) in order to follow your Catholic tradition that breaks the Commandments of God. Your understanding of these words is that it is not a requirement of God to OBEY and FOLLOW him through FAITH.

How can you LOVE God or your neighbour and say you BELIEVE God by teaching the breaking of God’s Commandments and disobeying his WORD?

We are ONLY saved by GRACE through FAITH and NOT of ourselves, it is a GIFT of GOD and not of WORKS lest any man should boast (Ephesians 2:8). Salvation is FROM SIN not IN SIN, and FAITH and GRACE are for OBEDIENCE to the FAITH (Matt 1:21; Romans 1:5; 6:1; Romans 3:31)

If your FAITH does not have the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE then you are still in your SINS and do not know him who calls you in LOVE to LOVE another (1 John 2:3-4; James 2:18-20; 26). If your tree has no FRUIT then it is cast down and thrown into the fire because you have rejected the GIFT of God’s dear son and treat the blood of the Covenant an unholy thing (Matt 7:12-23; Hebrews 6:4-8; 10:26:27; Romans 6:23; Hebrews 10:29)

DiscipleDave said:

No Dave, you do not teach what the scriptures teach you speak of yourself and teach against God's LAW and the prophets. This is something Jesus and the Apostles never did.

Of course I BELIEVE we are to BELIEVE God’s WORD and LOVE through FAITH in God’s WORD. This is ALL that is being shared here in this thread and elsewhere.

God’s ISRAEL in the NEW Covenant is those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God’s WORD. If you are NOT a part of God’s ISRAEL then you are NOT a part of God’s NEW COVENANT of LOVE.

WHO ARE GOD'S ISRAEL IN THE NEW COVENANT?

THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE (Galatians 3:28).

FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED (Romans 9:6).

FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God. (Romans 2:28-29)

Colossians 3:11,
WHERE THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Romans 10:11-13,
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. FOR THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW OR GREEK: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED.

Hebrews 8:10-12,
BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, says the LORD, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS, AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Gentiles are now grafted into God's ISRAEL (Romans 11:13-24)

God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT are ALL those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. God's Sabbath is an EVERLASTING and PERPETUAL Covenant that will be continued in the NEW EARTH (Isaiah 66:22-23)

Isaiah 66
22, For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, said the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23, And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, said the LORD.

Yep seems like God says the Sabbath is an everlasting (FOREVER) Covenant with those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW the WORD of GOD (God's ISRAEL).

It seems God’s WORD disagrees with you.

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

Endoscopy · Mar 16, 2018

DiscipleDave said:

Scriptures plainly teach that His Commandments are 1)Believe on Jesus and 2)Love One Another.
LoveGodForver teaches His Commandments are the 10 Commandments that were given to the Israelites to obey under the old covenant.
i teach what Scriptures teach, that His Commandments are 1)Believe on Jesus and 2)Love One Another.
YOU do not believe that. YOU believe the 10 Commandments should be ADDED to that, this is what YOU believe the verse should say.

LoveGodForever 3:23 And this is His commandment, That we should 1) Believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ, 2) Love one another, and 3) Keep the 10 Commandments.

Sorry that is NOT what Scriptures teach, that is what YOU teach, and it is wrong. You are ADDING to that verse, based on your own interpretations of Scriptures.

So you are equating yourself with John the Baptist? That statement has been given to the greatest prophet, and we now see you taking that statement and applying it to yourself. You don't see something amiss there?

Amen, that is exactly right, what the Israelites were told time and again under the old covenant. Thank you Jesus we Christians are now under YOUR COVENANT and not the covenant YOU gave to the Israelites. Thank you Jesus.[/B]

lol. You have provoked me to boast in the Lord, i have read the entire Bible front to back over 80 times in my life, have had many conversations with God concerning the Word and what is to come, i have spoke with Angels of God, had dreams and visions from God, Jesus performed miracles using me, Jesus is on my mind from the time i wake up till i go to bed at night. i do all things to please Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior, my Master and God. i do not obey any temptations that satan throws at me, i abhor sinning of any kind whatsoever. And you think a beam is in my eye lol.

If then you have removed the beam out of thine own eye, you can see clearly to tell me what beam in my eye you think you see?

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

I go with what Jesus said.
He came not to break the law and the prophets but to fulfill.
The law is forever.
Therefore we are under the law.
Breaking the law is a sin.
We all sin.
The penalty of sin is death

Jesus was the unblemished Lamb of God that was sacrificed for our sins.
The only unforgivable sin is rejecting the sacrifice of Jesus.

Praise God for Jesus being sacrificed so if we accept his sacrifice the penalty of sin is removed from us.

Endoscopy · Mar 16, 2018

LoveGodForever said:

Of course God’s Word teaches that we are to BELIEVE God's WORD and LOVE God and one another (Matt 22:36-40) You leave out the part where Jesus says ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS (v40) in order to follow your Catholic tradition that breaks the Commandments of God. Your understanding of these words is that it is not a requirement of God to OBEY and FOLLOW him through FAITH.

How can you LOVE God or your neighbour and say you BELIEVE God by teaching the breaking of God’s Commandments and disobeying his WORD?

We are ONLY saved by GRACE through FAITH and NOT of ourselves, it is a GIFT of GOD and not of WORKS lest any man should boast (Ephesians 2:8). Salvation is FROM SIN not IN SIN, and FAITH and GRACE are for OBEDIENCE to the FAITH (Matt 1:21; Romans 1:5; 6:1; Romans 3:31)

If your FAITH does not have the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE then you are still in your SINS and do not know him who calls you in LOVE to LOVE another (1 John 2:3-4; James 2:18-20; 26). If your tree has no FRUIT then it is cast down and thrown into the fire because you have rejected the GIFT of God’s dear son and treat the blood of the Covenant an unholy thing (Matt 7:12-23; Hebrews 6:4-8; 10:26:27; Romans 6:23; Hebrews 10:29)

No Dave, you do not teach what the scriptures teach you speak of yourself and teach against God's LAW and the prophets. This is something Jesus and the Apostles never did.

Of course I BELIEVE we are to BELIEVE God’s WORD and LOVE through FAITH in God’s WORD. This is ALL that is being shared here in this thread and elsewhere.

God’s ISRAEL in the NEW Covenant is those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God’s WORD. If you are NOT a part of God’s ISRAEL then you are NOT a part of God’s NEW COVENANT of LOVE.

WHO ARE GOD'S ISRAEL IN THE NEW COVENANT?

THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE (Galatians 3:28).

FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED (Romans 9:6).

FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God. (Romans 2:28-29)

Colossians 3:11,
WHERE THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Romans 10:11-13,
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. FOR THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW OR GREEK: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED.

Hebrews 8:10-12,
BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, says the LORD, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS, AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Gentiles are now grafted into God's ISRAEL (Romans 11:13-24)

God's ISRAEL in the NEW COVENANT are ALL those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. God's Sabbath is an EVERLASTING and PERPETUAL Covenant that will be continued in the NEW EARTH (Isaiah 66:22-23)

Isaiah 66
22, For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, said the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23, And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, said the LORD.

Yep seems like God says the Sabbath is an everlasting (FOREVER) Covenant with those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW the WORD of GOD (God's ISRAEL).

It seems God’s WORD disagrees with you.

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

You keep limiting the law to the 10 commandments. The law in the Torah is the 613 rules of the law in the Torah. No one can keep all the these laws.

Matthew 5:13 to 20 NIV
Jesus saying he came to fulfill the law and the prophets.

Salt and Light
13 “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.

14 “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.

The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

LoveGodForever · Mar 16, 2018

Endoscopy said:

Hello Endoscopy?

So do you kill the nations that follow Idolatry, offer animal sacrifices and sin offerings and follow the levitical priesthood and sanctuary service? These are all part of the 613 you talk about. These pointed to the NEW COVENANT and were fulfilled in Christ and his life, death and resurrection and new role as our great high priest in the heavenly Sanctuary made without hands.

Your comments only show you do not know what makes up the OLD COVENANT and how it relates to the NEW.

The LAW and prophets have not changed they are pointing to Jesus. God commanded to 10 Commandments to be separated from the 613 and made and spoke them and called them the 10 Commandments for a reason.

They give us a KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is and are FOREVER and are a part of the NEW COVENANT written on the heart to LOVE and the standard in the JUDGEMENT to come.

The laws in the Mosaic book of the Covenant for remission of SIN are fulfilled in Christ and were the Shadows pointing to Jesus and God's plan of salvation for mankind. All scriptures supplied in the OP. I suggest you read it.

SHADOWS OF COL 2:14-17

If you break God's Commandments you commit SIN (Romans 7:7; James 2:9-11; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

Endoscopy · Mar 16, 2018

LoveGodForever said:

It is obvious to the casual observer that you keep ignoring what the Bible states about the meaning of the Crucifixion of Jesus!!! He saves us from our sins. Without the law there is no sin. Go peddle your erroneous views elsewhere!!

Here is what Jesus said. Argue with him about it.

Matthew 5:17 to 20 NIV

The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

LoveGodForever · Mar 16, 2018

Endoscopy said:

Well that is not true. if you believe what is written in the OP is not true please address all the scriptures in the OP that disagree with your traditions that break the Commandments of God.

If you cannot then you should seek God in prayer, humble yourself and BELIEVE and FOLLOW the WORD of God.

If you believe I am ignoring what the bible state when I have only provided what the bible states, how can you prove what your saying is true when you only state your words over the Word of God?

If you break God's Commandments you commit SIN (Romans 7:7; James 2:9-11; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

Endoscopy · Mar 16, 2018

LoveGodForever said:

You replied too quickly. Here is what you have to refute. The words of Jesus!! This law is the 613 rules recorded in the Torah.

Matthew 5:17 to 20 NIV

The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

LoveGodForever · Mar 16, 2018

Endoscopy said:

I have not replied too quickly at all if you read the OP you would already know these scriptures suport the OP. I suggest you read the OP.

CLICK ME; SHADOWS OF COL 2:14-17

I have also never said that other commandments of God besides the 10 Commandments in God's WORD for today are not to be followed either. To him that knows to do good and does not do it to him it is SIN.

You did not respond or reply to the post you were quoting from...

So do you kill the nations that follow Idolatry, offer animal sacrifices and sin offerings and follow the levitical priesthood and sanctuary service? These are all part of the 613 you talk about.

These pointed to the NEW COVENANT and were fulfilled in Christ and his life, death and resurrection and new role as our great high priest in the heavenly Sanctuary made without hands.

Your comments only show you do not know what makes up the OLD COVENANT and how it relates to the NEW. The LAW and prophets have not changed they are pointing to Jesus. God commanded to 10 Commandments to be separated from the 613 and made and spoke them called them the 10 Commandments for a reason.

They give us a KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is and are FOREVER. The laws in the Mosaic book of the Covenant for remission of SIN are fulfilled in Christ and were the Shadows pointing to Jesus and God's plan of salvation for mankind. All scriptures supplied in the OP. I suggest you read it.

If you break God's Commandments you commit SIN (Romans 7:7; James 2:9-11; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

iamsoandso · Mar 16, 2018

LoveGodForever said:

Well that is not true. if you believe what is written in the OP is not true please address all the scriptures in the OP that disagree with your traditions that break the Commandments of God.

If you cannot then you should seek God in prayer, humble yourself and BELIEVE and FOLLOW the WORD of God.

If you believe I am ignoring what the bible state when I have only provided what the bible states, how can you prove what your saying is true when you only state your words over the Word of God?

If you break God's Commandments you commit SIN (Romans 7:7; James 2:9-11; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

In the o.p. you bring up Hebrews 9:10 which states that this is imposed until the reformation,,. In Acts 3:21 the apostles while speaking in the Holy spirit state that heaven must receive him until that same time,,,when after Acts 3:21 do you say this came about?

Endoscopy · Mar 17, 2018

LoveGodForever said:

Here are 2 sets of Bible verses on the subject of the Sabbath for Christians.

Romans 14

5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.

Colossians 2 NIV

Freedom From Human Rules
16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. 18 Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind. 19 They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.

20 Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.

Jackson123 · Mar 17, 2018

Shamah said:

Do you follow the word?

God want congregation to stone sabbath violator, not judge

why you change the law and you say because you not judge you not kill sabbath violator?

read these verse 100 time dear. The word say congregation must kill not judge. Dear judge and congregation have 2 different meaning. You are congregation, you the one that do killing
Numbers 15
32 And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
33 And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
34 And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
35 And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.

i think I already show this verse 200 time.

Jackson123 · Mar 17, 2018

LoveGodForever said:

Now Jackson you are only quoting your own words over God's Word dear. There is no scriptures to support your tradtions that break the commandments of God dear. Everything you continue you say has been answered with scripture here....

CLICK ME FOR COL 2:14-17

CLICK HERE; WHAT MAKES UP THE OLD COVENANT?

CLICK HERE; SHADOW LAWS OF THE OLD COVENANT?.

CLICK HERE; WHY THE SABBATH CANNOT BE A CEREMONIAL LAW?CLICK HERE: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ENTER GOD'S REST?

But you choose to reject God's Word (Jesus) and choose to follow your tradtition over the Word of God. If you disagree dear please respond to all the scriptures in the liked post above that disagree with your interpretation of God's WORD.

It is time to leave Sunday school dear and follow Jesus in Spirit and in truth because God seeks such to worship him.

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

.......................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

just answer me in 4 sentence dear, why you change the word

heaven and earth will pass but not Word, that is what you always quote. But you change.

you chose to declare war against Jesus by change the word

col 2:14 say

blotting the handwriting ordinance

why hey you say only Moses handwriting ordinance?

tell me why you think you smarter than God
answer this question dear!

LoveGodForever · Mar 17, 2018

Endoscopy said:

Ok where in Romans 14 does it say this passage of scripture is talking about the Sabbath? Fact is that it is not even talking about the Sabbath. Romans 14:1-15

Where in the chapter or in the whole book of Romans does it even mention God's 4th commandment of the 7th day Sabbath of God's commandment?

If the whole chapter or book of Romans does not even mention God's LAW, the 4th commandment of the 7th day Sabbath of God's LAW why do you think it is talking about God's LAW (10 commandments)?

The simple truth is that the Chapter is not about God's commandment as it is not even mentioned. Let's look at the chapter and see what it is talking about...........

Romans 14
1, Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.The first thing we see here is that this chapter is about relating to a weak brother.
2, For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
3, Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
4, Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

Now to the meat and potatoes…

5, One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6, He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Why is eating and fasting (not eating) connected to days here? Let’s see…...............

(6), He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

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Isaiah 58
5, Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD?

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Luke 18
11, The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 12, I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

From Bullingers Companion Bible…........

Luke 18:12
Twice in the week. The law prescribed only one in the year (Lev_16:29. Num_29:7). By the time of Zec_8:19 there were four yearly fasts. In our Lord's day they were bi-weekly (Monday and Thursday), between Passover and Pentecost; and between the Feast of Tabernacles and the Dedication.

Yes they fasted sometimes two days a week and also annually in the feasts of Lev 23.

7, For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
8, For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
9, For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
10, But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother?
for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11, For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12, So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
13, Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
14, I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean <ceremonially profaned, defiled or unholy> of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean<ceremonially profaned, defiled or unholy>, to him it is unclean.
15, But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.

(14) At the time meat and drink were offered to pagan idols. After it was offered it was sold in a meat market called the ‘Shambles’.

1Cor 10
25, Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake:

Shambles ; μάκελλον; makellon; mak'-el-lon Of Latin origin [macellum ]; a butcher's stall, meat market or provision shop: - shambles.

There were those who were weak in the faith (verse 1) who were offended by the thought of food being offered to idols. They somehow thought that eating that food was somehow connecting them with the idolatrous practices around them.

Some points to consider in Romans 14:1-15............

1. The chapter is talking about a number of related topics
2. Overall it is talking about not juding those who are weak in the faith in relation to food connected to days or days dedicated to the Lord and that is all it is talking about.
3. Food connected to days in usually in relation to the annual festivals or fasting connected to weekly or Holy days unto the Lord (Lev 16:29. Num 29:7; Issaiah 58:5; Luke 18:11-12).
4. There is no mention of the Sabbath or God's 4th commandment in this chapter or the entire book of Romans.
5. Romans 14 is not talking about ABOLISHING ANY DAYS but only talking about judging others in relation to food or fasting connected to days dedicated to the LORD and food offered to idols.
6. The Chapter is consistant with all the other writing of Paul in relation to the jewish annual holy days fulfilled in Christ (eg, Colossains 2; Ephesians 2; Galatains 4:10; Hebrews 9:9-15; 10:1-17).
7. Paul's topics is summarised in v17; For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

It is very clear from reading the scriptures that this whole Chapter has nothing whatsoever at all to do with the 4th commandment which is to keep Holy the 7th day Sabbath but is talking about judging others in relation to food connected to holy days and idolatry.

So nope thate verse has nothing to do with God's 4th Commandment

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Endoscopy said:

Now really Endosopy? These scriptures in COL 2:14-17 are what the OP is about here.Just stating the scripture that the OP is about does not address the 200+ scriptures that disagree with your interpretation of COL 2. Did you want to read and address the OP and the scritures in them that disagree with your interpretation of the scriptures?

CLICK ME; SHADOWS OF COL 2:14-17

You did not respond or reply to the post you were quoting from...

So do you kill the nations that follow Idolatry, offer animal sacrifices and sin offerings and follow the levitical priesthood and sanctuary service? These are all part of the 613 you talk about.

These pointed to the NEW COVENANT and were fulfilled in Christ and his life, death and resurrection and new role as our great high priest in the heavenly Sanctuary made without hands.

Your comments only show you do not know what makes up the OLD COVENANT and how it relates to the NEW. The LAW and prophets have not changed they are pointing to Jesus. God commanded to 10 Commandments to be separated from the 613 and made and spoke them called them the 10 Commandments for a reason.

They give us a KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is and are FOREVER. The laws in the Mosaic book of the Covenant for remission of SIN are fulfilled in Christ and were the Shadows pointing to Jesus and God's plan of salvation for mankind. All scriptures supplied in the OP. I suggest you read it.

If you break God's Commandments you commit SIN (Romans 7:7; James 2:9-11; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

LoveGodForever · Mar 17, 2018

Jackson123 said:

Hello dear you are just quoting your own words over God's Words again. Everything you continue to ask has been answered with God's Word in these posts here....

CLICK ME FOR COL 2:14-17

CLICK HERE; WHAT MAKES UP THE OLD COVENANT?

CLICK HERE; SHADOW LAWS OF THE OLD COVENANT?.

CLICK HERE; WHY THE SABBATH CANNOT BE A CEREMONIAL LAW?

CLICK HERE: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ENTER GOD'S REST?

You choose to ignore and reject God's Word (Jesus) and choose to follow your tradtition over the Word of God dear.

If you disagree dear please respond to all the scriptures in the liked post above that disagree with your interpretation of God's WORD. Simply ignoring God's Word and saying your own words over Gods does not make your words God's Word.

It is time to leave Sunday school dear and follow Jesus in Spirit and in truth because God seeks such to worship him. Come out of Darkness dear there is no where to hide when the lights are turned on unless you close your eyes. This is your choice.

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

Jackson123 · Mar 17, 2018

LoveGodForever said:

Hello dear you are just quoting your own words over God's Words again. Everything you continue to ask has been answered with God's Word in these posts here....

CLICK ME FOR COL 2:14-17

CLICK HERE; WHAT MAKES UP THE OLD COVENANT?

CLICK HERE; SHADOW LAWS OF THE OLD COVENANT?.

CLICK HERE; WHY THE SABBATH CANNOT BE A CEREMONIAL LAW?CLICK HERE: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ENTER GOD'S REST?

You choose to ignore and reject God's Word (Jesus) and choose to follow your tradtition over the Word of God dear.

If you disagree dear please respond to all the scriptures in the liked post above that disagree with your interpretation of God's WORD. Simply ignoring God's Word and saying your own words over Gods does not make your words God's Word.

It is time to leave Sunday school dear and follow Jesus in Spirit and in truth because God seeks such to worship him.

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

you use the same strategy to hide your mistake dear

I do not need 200 sentence only 5 sentence the reason you change col2:14 say that

handwriting ordinance has been blotting

and 10 commandment is handwritting ordinance

why you do not believe the verse that you chose by yourself and changed it?

please do not avoid to give short answer.

LoveGodForever · Mar 17, 2018

iamsoandso said:

Hi iamsoandso, so nice to meet you, welcome here friend.

As you can see from the OP there is many important scriptures from the book of Hebrews showing the Shadows from the Mosaic book of the Covenant. Interesting throughts you bring up in relation to Hebrews 9:10

In CONTEXT of Hebrews 9:10. the whole chapter is important to understanding the Shadows of COL 2 and the OLD and NEW COVENANTS.

Hebrews 9
1, Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and an earthly sanctuary.
2, For there was a tabernacle made; the first, in which was the lampstand, and the table, and the showbread; which is called the sanctuary.
3, And behind the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;
4, Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, in which was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tablets of the covenant;
5, And over it the cherubim of glory shadowing the mercy seat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.
6, Now when these things were thus prepared, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.
7, But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
8, The Holy Spirit this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while the first tabernacle was yet standing:
9, Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
10, Which stood only in foods and drinks, and various washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
11, But Christ being come a high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12, Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13, For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies to the purifying of the flesh:
14, How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15, A nd for this cause he is the mediator of the new covenant, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first covenant, they who are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16, For where a will is, there must also of necessity be the death of the maker.
17, For a will is in force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the maker lives.
18, Hence neither the first covenant was dedicated without blood.
19, For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
20, Saying, This is the blood of the covenant which God has commanded unto you.
21, Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
22, And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
23, It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
24, For Christ has not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
25, Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest enters into the holy place every year with blood of others;
26, For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the age has he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
27, And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
28, So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

This whole chapter highlights the transition from the change of the OLD COVENANTS fulfillment of the Shadow laws and ordinances from the Mosaic book of the COVENANT for remission of SINS, the NEW Sanctuary service and priesthood and sacrifice and fulfillment of Christ and his new role under the NEW COVENANT.

The time of reformation refers to the fulfillment of the LIFE, DEATH and RESURRESTION of Jesus bringing an END to the TEMPLE Services and ORDINANCES for remission of SIN and the NEW MINISTRATION of Jesus under the NEW COVENANT.

Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries w/TVM, Strong meaning REFORMATION - G1357; διόρθωσις; diorthōsis; dee-or'-tho-sis; From a compound of G1223 and a derivative of G3717, meaning to straighten thoroughly ; rectification, that is, (specifically) the Messianic restoration: - reformation.

The direct connection with Acts 3:21?

Acts 3
19, Repent therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
20, And he shall send Jesus Christ, who before was preached unto you:
21, Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
22, For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall you hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
23, And it shall come to pass, that every soul, who will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

I believe this is talking about the ministration of Jesus on our behalf in the heavenly sanctuary as outlined in Hebrews and also in relation to the Judgement that takes place before the 2nd coming bringing an end to all those who reject the gift of God's dear son and choose to CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN.

If you break God's Commandments you commit SIN (Romans 7:7; James 2:9-11; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

Hope this helps.

PS · Mar 17, 2018

Jackson123 said:

Adam and Eve walked and talked with God in the Garden. Then the deceiver came upon them. They followed him and were cast out of Paradise.

We are warned to be: "sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:" (1Pe 5:8)

Numbers 15 is the destroyer speaking to the people, the same as he spoke to Eve.

Numbers 15
35 And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.

LoveGodForever · Mar 17, 2018

Jackson123 said:

There is no avoidance of answer dear all the answers to your questions have been provided with God's Word. You choose to reject God's Word to follow your tradition that breaks God's Commandments.

Here is proof you ignore God's Word here dear that answers all your questions.

CLICK ME FOR COL 2:14-17

CLICK HERE; WHAT MAKES UP THE OLD COVENANT?

CLICK HERE; SHADOW LAWS OF THE OLD COVENANT?.

CLICK HERE; WHY THE SABBATH CANNOT BE A CEREMONIAL LAW?

CLICK HERE: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ENTER GOD'S REST?

Neither will you respond to these posts and the scriptures in them that answer your questions.

You simply ignore all the scriptures dear and say your questions have not been answered.

The posts above with God's Word provided show you the answers to your questions but you choose to ignore Gods Word.

If you do not think this is true dear please respond to the posts above with scripture and show why you believe they are wrong. Simply ignoring God's Word does not make it go away.

SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

PS · Mar 17, 2018

LoveGodForever said:

Stop doing what Adam and Eve did.

And don't accuse a man of God.

LoveGodForever · Mar 17, 2018

PS said:

Indeed this is an interesting study in itself. It exposes the first lie told by the father of lies that many of the mainstream religions of today teach to lead people away from God.

Let's have a look at God's Word....

THE DECIEVER IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN

Let's start at John and at the beginning of Genesis 3

Let's start here with the father of lies......

John 8
44, Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: FOR HE IS A LIAR AND THE FATHER OF IT.

The Devil is the Father of LIES those that do not FOLLOW God follow their Father the devil and the deeds of their father they will do.

links to...........

1 John 2
3, And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4, He that saith, I KNOW HIM, and KEEPS NOT HIS COMMANDMENTS, is a LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM

links to...........

1 John 3
4, Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5, And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6, Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8, He that committeth sin is of the devil; (the father of lies and the deeds of their father they will do)

The father of lies from the begining. Let's go to the beginning will look at separate meanings and types....

Genesis 3
1, Now the SEPENT <Satan Rev 12:9> was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the WOMEN <Church good or bad; Jeremiah 6:2; 2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:23-27; Isaiah 1:21-27; Jeremiah 3:1-3; 6-9; Ezk 16:15-58; 23:2-21; Hos. 2:5; 3:1; Rev. 14:4>, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2, And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the FRUIT of the trees of the garden: <FRUIT of OBEDIENCE (James 2:18; 20; 26; Matthew 7:12-23; Jon 15:1-10)

3, But of the FRUIT of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, LEST YOU DIE <God's LAW; represents God's 10 commandments which gives the KNOWLEDGE of SIN and RIGHTEUSNESS; Good and Evil; Romans 3:20; 7:7; James 2:11; 1 John 3:4; Ps 119:172; but makes nothing perfect>.

4, And the serpent said unto the woman, YOU SHALL NOT SURELY DIE:< The first LIE from the beginning; John 8:44)

5, For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, KNOWING GOOD AND EVIL. < Prior to DIOBEYING God Mankind DID NOT KNOW what EVIL (SIN) was because they were in HARMONY and OBEDIENT to God's WORD>

6, And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

7, And THE EYES OF THEM WERE OPENED, AND THEY KNEW THAT THEY WERE NAKED; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. <God's LAW is the KNOWLEDGE of SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS; When they SINNED they now had the KNOWLEDGE of both GOOD and EVIL; Romans 3:20; 7:7; James 2:11; 1 John 3:4; Ps 119:172; The saw that they were naked and tried to cover themselves with figleaves; SIN took away their RIGHTEOUSNESS and now they are guilty before God in SIN; NAKED before God in SIN trying to cover themselves with figleaves (flithy rags) Isaiah 63:6; Righteousness to cover our nakedness only from God; Luke 15:22; If we SIN we lose it; Romans 3:19 >

8, And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

9, And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
10, And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
11, And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

Key points and putting it all together..........

The Serpent and father of LIES is the Devil he lied to MANKIND from the beginning. God's Commandment to Adam and Eve was NOT to eat of the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL (SIN AND RIGHTESOUNESS) lest you DIE.

Adam and Eve did not have the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL (SIN AND RIGHTESOUNESS) because they had NEVER SINNED and where in HARMONY with God in OBEDIENCE to HIS WORD.

THE TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL REPRESENTS GOD's Commandments. The TAKING THE FRUIT symbolizes BREAKING the TREE and DISOBEYING God's Commandment.

God says do not eat of the fruit, lest you DIE. By eating the fruit Adam and Eve chose NOT TO BELIEVE GOD and to BELIEVE the serpent. (UNBELIEF in GOD's WORD)

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THIS IS A WARNING FOR US TODAY. THE same LIE told to ADAM and EVE is being repeated in the mainstream Churches of today.

SIN is the transgression of GOD'S LAW and if anyone CONTINUES in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN; God's WORD says they will DIE and not ENTER THE KINGDOM of HEAVEN because they have rejected the GIFT of God's dear son (Romans 6:23; Hebrews 10:26-27; 6:4-8; Matthew 7:12-23)

It is only by partaking of the TREE of LIFE (BELIEVING AND FOLLOWING God's Word by LOVE) through FAITH that Gods FRUITS of OBEDIENCE are seen in the life of God's true people (1 John 3:3-10; Revelation 12:17; 14:12; 22:14) and is why Jesus says if you LOVE me keep my commandments ( John 14:15; 15:10)

If you break God's Commandments just like in the days of Adam and EVE you commit SIN (Romans 7:7; James 2:9-11; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will surely die and will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

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