Not By Works

[LightLoveHope]

Who is amazed? The people you gossip with and misrepresent me to?

I have spoken often of my church.
I am not surprised you have not seen it.
The blind don't see much.

So which denomination do you belong to?
Or are you part of the unaligned fellowships?

I have fellowship with Baptists, anglicans and methodists, and various charismatic groups.
I do not have a problem with their positions of faith and would not call them going to hell
or teaching things that lead them to hell, rather the opposite.

 

[tourist]

This is true... and even though Jesus said that Judas was "unclean" and called him a son of perdition (doomed to destruction), there are still those who insist that Judas was saved (because he committed suicide! ).

I believe that Judas was the only one that Jesus personally called His friend.

 

[joefizz]

You've read over 57,000 some-odd posts, and read ALL 2,894 pages? I call bull poo on that one..

Technology can make you read so fast now a days,who knew?...

 

[Magenta]

Nobody that posts regularly in this thread, that is. People may, but it certainly does not happen here as was just claimed. This has been pointed out to them time and time again, but they continue in their slander, regardless. Truth means nothing to them. They just like to hear themselves blather on and on with their slander while they tell us how righteous they are.

 

[Magenta]

I believe that Judas was the only one that Jesus personally called His friend.

I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
John 15:15

 

[joefizz]

I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
John 15:15

Great answer,hmm going to look that up!

 

[LightLoveHope]

Nobody rejects that works follow justification as part of the process of ongoing sanctification. Nor do those you oppose preach against it, as you say. This has been pointed out to you may times, but you continue blithely in your falseness, regardless. And we know why. You are an unreliable witness. Jesus told us who your father is.

Magenta, you have fallen into the trap which we should all avoid.
"Nobody" as a phrase is always a lie. You can speak about yourself, and people you know, but
"nobody" shows your desire exaguration and lying.

If you were being honest you would want to establish how you believe and use
language. And the problem is I just express my point of view and respond to
judgmental comments like yours as they are made. As foreigner said in their song
"I just want to know what love is".

People introduce the wolf motif as if they are not being wolves by their own testimony.
Ironic the attempt. For sinners who walk with failure, who are so broken they do
not know victory or overcoming, how do they know they are not the wolves tearing at
the very work of Jesus in others? But they really do not care, because if they do harm
they feel it is deserved.

But harm would be done to sheep, not wolves, and they know their targets are soft
or else they would not try such things. God bless us that Jesus heals our wounds,
blesses our souls, encourages our hearts and leads us in life eternal through the Holy
Spirit, Amen.

 

[7777pinacled]

Sigh how long will this go on?
1.Elisha is not the same as D,Elisha had "twice" the spirit and so it makes sense that he did well for God and of course he thought of heaven often for he probably was thinking of Elijah a lot after witnessing him "leaving to heaven".
2.D is not dissuading anyone of "rewards" in heaven nor am I we simply speak truth of salvation,we don't discourage people from striving to do good works we simply state that they "don't save"(now they don't anyways excluding in the time of tribulation) Jesus assuredly told of treasures in heaven but "knowing" if one is saved is "more important" than what one "might get" nothing wrong with thinking a little on "rewards" to come for some "encouragement" but it shouldn't be anyone's "first focus" .
3.No, Faith is not a "fruitless tree" Jesus is the "vine" and we are stemmed from him when we "accept salvation" and "will serve" by doing works through him by way of the holy spirit.
Now to further clarify any one of us can "choose" to do a work that "we want to do" and then other times there are the ones that we may "be called to do" in a day and we must discern the difference between "what we want to do" and what "Jesus wants" and unfortunately there is the "possibe influence of satan" there to "scramble our thoughts" making us think we are being called by Jesus to do something when we aren't which is why it is important to have "certainty" along with "salvation".

Thankyou, For Speaking the Truth sir!
And Something our Lord said to peter',Feed My Sheep"

The Honorable bond of Peace is part of the Whole Armor of God.

This Is A Christian Board.
Conversation should Be pointing to Christ and This thread is not an Example of the Body.

It is a snare to capture people who are still burdened and not yet Grown Mature in the Spirit of Knowledge to confidently Speak the Word

And now that Dcon has been Rebuked, the evidence is Quite Clear to all readers of What was, "working" in the background..

 

[Magenta]

Magenta, you have fallen into the trap which we should all avoid.
"Nobody" as a phrase is always a lie.

Nobody who rejects Christ will inherit the kingdom of God.
Let's see you turn that into a lie.​

The same could be said for the use of the word "always." You set the trap and fell into it yourself.

 

[joefizz]

Magenta, you have fallen into the trap which we should all avoid.
"Nobody" as a phrase is always a lie. You can speak about yourself, and people you know, but
"nobody" shows your desire exaguration and lying.

If you were being honest you would want to establish how you believe and use
language. And the problem is I just express my point of view and respond to
judgmental comments like yours as they are made. As foreigner said in their song
"I just want to know what love is".

People introduce the wolf motif as if they are not being wolves by their own testimony.
Ironic the attempt. For sinners who walk with failure, who are so broken they do
not know victory or overcoming, how do they know they are not the wolves tearing at
the very work of Jesus in others? But they really do not care, because if they do harm
they feel it is deserved.

But harm would be done to sheep, not wolves, and they know their targets are soft
or else they would not try such things. God bless us that Jesus heals our wounds,
blesses our souls, encourages our hearts and leads us in life eternal through the Holy
Spirit, Amen.

Fascinating...

and you say Amen to yourself for justification for this idiocy you just posted^^^^ sooooo original.

 

[BillG]

No,
I disagree with your statement that the Ruach Haqodosh will convict a believer of unbelief.
Huh?

That is exactly what is going on here by fruitless conversation.

You ignored what Yeshua plainly Say's.

The world is convicted.

Kinda like in the world not of it.
Or keep yourself pure and undefiled by the world.

I could go on.
But I know the reading Believers are shaking their head.

You cannot justify dcon's actions here.

If the Word is choked out by the world?

Ok now you have confused me.

Now I agree that the Bible verse does say world

John 16:8-9
8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me;

But I don't recall saying that the Ruach Haqodosh (forgive my ignorance but is RH the Holy Spirit if so why not say the Holy Spirit) I know the Holy Spirit does convict and beliver of unbelief. If you can point out where I said then please reject that and show me where I said that.

Kinda like in the world not of it?
Please explain.

But I know the reading belivers are shaking their head.

So this came across as

There are genuine belivers who are shaking their head at what you posted (assuming they interpreted the same as you did).
Therefore I am not a genuine beliver like you as you are asking your head and the others doing the same because you theologically agree.

Now you say "You cannot justify dcon's actions here"

Very interesting you say that.

Because the truth is my post that you responded to was based on my response to benhur trying to explain what I thought DC was saying.

This was a result of what benhur was questioning what DC said.

Did you bother to read benhur response to DC?
I think not.

So maybe the issue you have is with DC and anyone who aligns with what he says you also have an issue with which is the issue.

To be honest I totally agree with benhur and his thoughts of how we should interact at times.

DC and I have had conversations in the past.
I agree with what he says but don't agree at times the way he puts it.
He would the say the same of me.

But we love each other in Jesus and want the best for people.

DC will always post his thoughts I don't always agree with it and says the same to me.

 

[Magenta]

If you were being honest you would want to establish how you believe and use
language. And the problem is I just express my point of view and respond to
judgmental comments like yours as they are made. As foreigner said in their song
"I just want to know what love is".

If you were being honest, you would recognize that I have established how I use language. I do not mince words. I shoot straight. My yes means yes and my no means no. Of course you do not see this. You just come against me because that is your modus operandi. You distort what people say, and misrepresent what they believe, and then wonder why people oppose you. You are an unrepentant liar who crows about their righteousness. See? No mincing of words there

 

[7777pinacled]

Fascinating...

and you say Amen to yourself for justification for this idiocy you just posted^^^^ sooooo original.

did you ever stop to think triple Love might be holding the rope of the snare so that it is inoperative?

Or that someone might have already separated the snare from the bent tree?

Did you Hear the Fruit of Gentleness in triple Love?

 

[joefizz]

Thankyou, For Speaking the Truth sir!
And Something our Lord said to peter',Feed My Sheep"

The Honorable bond of Peace is part of the Whole Armor of God.

This Is A Christian Board.
Conversation should Be pointing to Christ and This thread is not an Example of the Body.

It is a snare to capture people who are still burdened and not yet Grown Mature in the Spirit of Knowledge to confidently Speak the Word

And now that Dcon has been Rebuked, the evidence is Quite Clear to all readers of What was, "working" in the background..

Not really the "insecure" will always find a place to roost and an "excuse" to supposedly justify their actions.

 

[7777pinacled]

If you were being honest, you would recognize that I have established how I use language. I do not mince words. I shoot straight. My yes means yes and my no means no. Of course you do not see this. You just come against me because that is your modus operandi. You distort what people say, and mmisrepresent what they believe, and then wonder why people oppose you. You are an unrepentant liar who crows about their righteousness. See? No mincing of words there

Dont worry sis.
Everything will be ok,
Everything is under control

 

[7777pinacled]

Not really the "insecure" will always find a place to roost and an "excuse" to supposedly justify their actions.

Not really?

YES OR NO would be just fine for now!

 

[joefizz]

did you ever stop to think triple Love might be holding the rope of the snare so that it is inoperative?

Or that someone might have already separated the snare from the bent tree?

Did you Hear the Fruit of Gentleness in triple Love?

Nah you've read this thread right?
He's an accredited I guess "delusional" person is the only word describing him he has wasted many a person's time with his "riddlings" and "delusions" and when that doesn't work he seeks "justification" through attempting to "hurt others".
If you are referring to "Jesus" please explain never heard the phrase "triple love" so I can only figure you were referring to "light love hope".

 

[joefizz]

Not really?

YES OR NO would be just fine for now!

I'm "weary" of yes and no answers or questions,atheists delight in them and "bait and reel" Christians delight in them too.

 

[tourist]

Thankyou, For Speaking the Truth sir!
And Something our Lord said to peter',Feed My Sheep"

The Honorable bond of Peace is part of the Whole Armor of God.

This Is A Christian Board.
Conversation should Be pointing to Christ and This thread is not an Example of the Body.

It is a snare to capture people who are still burdened and not yet Grown Mature in the Spirit of Knowledge to confidently Speak the Word

And now that Dcon has been Rebuked, the evidence is Quite Clear to all readers of What was, "working" in the background..

I'm not feeling the love either.

Not really the "insecure" will always find a place to roost and an "excuse" to supposedly justify their actions.

 

[Chester]

Nobody who rejects Christ will inherit the kingdom of God.
Let's see you turn that into a lie.​

The same could be said for the use of the word "always." You set the trap and fell into it yourself.

You set the trap: I will bait it.

I have a brother-in-law who was a Christian and now has rejected Christ . . . .