GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?
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I will answer your question if you answer mine;
1. If someone is professing to be a Christian but is living a life of KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN are they in a SAVED state before God or an UNSAVED state before God?
2. Where in God's WOrd does it say God's 4th Commandment has now been ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day?
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
Is it hatred to keep the Law of Sabbath exactly as scripture requires or not?
Is it sin not to wear tzitzit with blue cord?
Is it sin not to keep new moon festival?
So I guess that is a no you do not want to answer my questions? I did not think you would maybe you can pray about it at home.
You say I go to hell if I read command in scripture and not keep it.
So I go to hell because I don't stone Sabbath violator yes or no?
I go to hell for not wearing tzitzit yes or no?
I go to hell for not keeping new moon festival yes or no?
Easy questions.
So I go to hell because I don't stone Sabbath violator yes or no?
I go to hell for not wearing tzitzit yes or no?
I go to hell for not keeping new moon festival yes or no?
Easy questions.
I promised to answer your question if you answered mine as I always answer your questions yet you never answer my questions. If you do not answer my questions neither will I answer yours.
1. Unsave, therefore dear repent and do not follow man made law
2. God not abolish 4 th commandment but fulfill it, real rest is only in Jesus. Physical sabbath doer may not real rest. And no body make Sunday as sabbath, not me, but I like to make everyday alike rest in Jesus
now do not let devil close your eyes dear, answere my question
is this verse call for hate
[h=1]Numbers 15:32-36 New King James Version (NKJV)[/h][h=3]Penalty for Violating the Sabbath[/h]32 Now while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day. 33 And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. 34 They put him under guard, because it had not been explained what should be done to him.
35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So, as the Lord commanded Moses, all the congregation brought him outside the camp and stoned him with stones, and he died.
What do you expect to accomplish by denying it when you were just shown an example of it?
You twisted Dan_473's words. Your doing so was pointed out to you! NOW YOU DENY IT! Perhaps I was too gentle when I accused you of intellectual dishonesty. I will correct that now:
YOU ARE AN UNMITIGATED LIAR!
Now can you recognize it as true?
Originally Posted by LoveGodForever
You seem a bit mixed up in your understanding of God's WORD. Jesus was not born under the law; Under the law means to be guilty of breaking it. The scripture says Jesus was born of a woman who was under the law (a sinner). If you are under the LAW you are guilty before God of breaking it. Jesus was born of sinners but never sinned. That is why he is our perfect sacrifice. Only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow it.
When you combine Gal 4:4 with Romans 3:19-23 it is very clear what the meaning is....
Romans 3
19, Now we know that what things soever the law said, it said to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20, Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21, But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22, Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ to all and on all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23, For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
The scripture says the woman was under the law (sinner) not Jesus. So Jesus was born of sinners but did not sin. This is why he is our perfect sacrifice to those who believe.
Rom 2:12
For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; ALL who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN WILL be LOST and NOT Enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
"In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
Originally Posted by Dan_473
to me it's clear that Jesus was Born under the law"
Your response:
So you believe Jesus was a sinner?
The reason I usually refuse to respond to you directly is that you engage in this type of intellectual DISHONESTY!
There is no point in trying to discuss anything with you because you twist people's words and even Scripture to try to make yourself look clever.
Originally Posted by Dan_473
to me it's clear that Jesus was Born under the law" This is what Dan_473 actually said!
Your response:
So you believe Jesus was a sinner? This is what you twisted his words to say!
Originally Posted by Dan_473
to me it's clear that Jesus was Born under the law" This is what Dan_473 actually said!
Your response:
So you believe Jesus was a sinner? This is what you twisted his words to say!
Careful MarcR your fruits are showing.
As said earlier I twisted nothing at all you take a little section out of my post explaining my statement and twisted it as you do the scriptures.
Here let me add my response as to why I said what I said. I will highlight it in RED so you can see it. This next post was the one after your accusations and the response you ignored....
Guess that did not go the way you expected now did it?
Well you do not need to apologise I have already forgiven you.
ONLY God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW him who calls us in LOVE to LOVE another.
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Originally Posted by LoveGodForever
I promised to answer your question if you answered mine as I always answer your questions yet you never answer my questions. If you do not answer my questions neither will I answer yours.
I am not I promised to answer his question if he would answer mine. I always answer his questions but he never answers mine. Your statement should be aimed at PH.
I am no teacher.
I am an ignorant fool. I only want to know how to keep from hell, so I'm asking someone who claims to know.
Wear tzitzit or go to hell yes or no?
Stone Sabbath violator to death or go to hell, yes or no?
Keep new moon festival or go to hell, yes or no?
Are all these 'teachers' utterly worthless or can they answer a single practical thing?
I am an ignorant fool. I only want to know how to keep from hell, so I'm asking someone who claims to know.
Wear tzitzit or go to hell yes or no?
Stone Sabbath violator to death or go to hell, yes or no?
Keep new moon festival or go to hell, yes or no?
Are all these 'teachers' utterly worthless or can they answer a single practical thing?
That doesn't stop you answering questions. If you had an answer that does not incriminate yourself, you would come straight out with it. The fact you do not reply tells us all you have no adequate answer. So to avoid showing yourself up, you fall back on an internet devise to avoid answering. Your silence is an admission of guilt, otherwise you would defend yourself.
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I will answer your question if you answer mine;
1. If someone is professing to be a Christian but is living a life of KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN are they in a SAVED state before God or an UNSAVED state before God?
2. Where in God's WOrd does it say God's 4th Commandment has now been ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day?
Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
.......................
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
Maybe I will ask you in a different way to help you...
If I promise to answer your question first will you answer my questions right after?
Why can you not be straightforward?
Useless, as telling me 'be filled' and giving no bread.
Why are you so scared to promise me that you will answer my questions? I promised to answer yours if you answer mine.
I even said I will answer your questions first then you can answer mine afterwards.