Not By Works

[LoveGodForever]

Do Not Want To Debate It Here. IT IS OFF SUBJECT. So I will only this Much:

FOR WHOM was the Seventh Day Commanded? The answer lies in the SCRIPTURES.

Exodus 31:12-17 (NKJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying,
[SUP]13 [/SUP] "Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: 'Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the LORD who sanctifies you.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] You shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh is the Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed.' "

FURTHER PROOF THAT IT WAS AND IS FOR ISRAEL TO KEEP IT, IS THE TEMPERATURE IS WARM ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN GO FOR 24 HOURS WITH OUT HEAT:

Exodus 35:3 (ESV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] You shall kindle no fire in all your dwelling places on the Sabbath day.”

DO IT HERE where temperatures can reach -15 below Fahrenheit , AND THIS WILL HAPPEN:

WHO ARE GOD'S ISRAEL IN THE NEW COVENANT?

Let's look at the scriptures.......

Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He says not, and to seeds, as of many; but as of one, AND TO YOUR SEED, WHICH IS CHRIST (Galatians 3:16)

Abraham’s seed is Israel.........

THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: FOR YOU ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED FOR YOU ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS and IF YOU BE CHRISTS, THEN ARE YOU ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE (Galatians 3:28).

No explanation needed, believe God's Word, and again..........

FOR THEY ARE NOT ALL ISRAEL WHICH ARE OF ISRAEL,: NEITHER, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ARE THEY ALL CHILDREN: but in Isaac shall thy seed be called <Christ> That is, THEY WHICH ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FLESH, THESE ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: BUT THE CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE <those who believe> ARE COUNTED FOR THE SEED (Romans 9:6).

FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; NEITHER IS THAT CIRCUMCISION, WHICH IS OUTWARDS IN THE FLESH: BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY; and CIRCUMCISION IS OF THE HEART, IN THE SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE LETTER; whose praise is not of men, but of God. (Romans 2:28-29)

God's Israel...............

Galatians 3:28-29,
THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Colossians 3:11,
WHERE THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Romans 10:11-13,
For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. FOR THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW OR GREEK: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL CALL UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED.

Romans 2:28-29,
FOR HE IS NOT A JEW WHICH IS ONE OUTWARDLY; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: BUT HE IS A JEW WHICH IS ONE INWARDLY ; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

The New Covenant is for God's Israel..........

Jeremiah 31:33-4,
BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, says the LORD, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS,AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, says the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Hebrews 8:10-12,
BUT THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL; After those days, says the LORD, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS, AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Hebrews 10:14-17,
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, this is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord, I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR HEARTS, AND INTO THEOR MINDS WILL I WRITE THEM; and their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Galatians 3:29,
AND IF YOU BE CHRISTS THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAMS SEED AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE.

The New Covenant is for God's Israel which represent those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God’s WORD. If you are not part of God's Israel you are not part of the New Covenant (Hebrews 8:10-12).

God's Israel are those that believe the Word of God and follow it and is why Jesus says If you love me keep my commandments (John 14:15)

You teach against God’s LAW and the prophets. This is something Jesus and the apostles never did.

Practicing KNOWN SIN will keep all who reject God’s GIFT out of God’s KINGDOM and the proclamation will be announced DEPART from me you who work SIN I never KNEW you (Matthew 7:23; 1 John 3:3-10; 1 John 2:3-4; Hebrews 10:26-27)

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[Magenta]

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Worshiping on Sunday breaks no commandment of God.

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[LoveGodForever]

Worshiping on Sunday breaks no commandment of God.

Yep we should worship GOD everyday. What has this got to do with anything?

God's 4th Commandment of the 10 says that the SEVENTH DAY is a HOLY DAY that NO WORK is to be done on this day as it is a day of REMEMBERING Jesus the God of creation.

GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT

Origin....

Genesis 2
1, Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2, And ON THE SEVENTH DAY God ended his work which he had made; and he RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY from all his work which he had made.
3, And GOD BLESSED THE SEVENTH DAY, and made it HOLY <the 7th day>: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

4th Commandment of the 10 that gives a KNOWLEDGE OF SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS (Romans 3:20; Ps 119:172)

Exodus 20
8, Remember the SABBATH DAY , to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day; He knew his professed people would forget it)
9, Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
10, But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God : in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY>
11, For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY : wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and HALLOWED IT

Breaking God's 4th Commandment is SIN just like breaking ANY of the 10 Commandments. SIN will keep ALL who practice it out of God's KINGDOM

 

[Magenta]

Yep we should worship GOD everyday. What has this got to do with anything?

LOL you must be daft, or think we are. You ask for proof, call me a liar if I don't produce any, then ask what it is for when I do. Almost every single post in your Sabbath thread that I have just looked at reiterates the same ridiculous assertion, that worshiping God on Sunday leads people to break the commands of God, when there is no such command against Sunday worship.

 

[benhur]

Hello ben,

Could you please show me the scripture that says Sunday is the "LORDS DAY"?

God's Word says that the Sabbath is the "LORDS DAY" not Sunday.

Matthew 12:8
8, For THE SON OF MAN IS LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH DAY.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

The only scripture that I found in the NT that refers to the Lord's Day is Revelations 1:10, but it is not definitive as to whether it was Saturday or Sunday.

From the beginning though as described in Acts 20:7 the disciples met at the 'beginning of the week' to break bread and Paul preached to them. Why did they meet on Sunday to take the sacrament of the Lord's supper? It is my understanding that the Saturday Sabbath was still recognized and that no work was done on that day and it was given to meditation etc. But then on Sunday (the beginning of the week) the members would gather to worship and break bread, which means they partook of the bread and wine of the Lord's supper.

Is it so out of line that Jesus would have told his apostles to move his worship day to Sunday? We all acknowledge that a lot of things changed between the OT and the NT. One of those things could reasonably been a change in the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. That is my take anyway. I'm sure you have heard it many times, but there it is.

 

[dcontroversal]

Worshiping on Sunday breaks no commandment of God.

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Amen.........when will people get through their head that we are not bound under the law......

 

[LoveGodForever]

The only scripture that I found that refers to the Lord's Day is Revelations 1:10, but it is not definative as to whether it was Saturday or Sunday.

From the beginning though as described in Acts 20:7 the disciples met at the 'beginning of the week' to break bread and Paul preached to them. Why did they meet on Sunday to take the sacrament of the Lord's supper? It is my understanding that the Saturday Sabbath was still recognized and that no work was done on that day and it was given to meditation etc. But then on Sunday (the beginning of the week) the members would gather to worship and break bread, which means they partook of the bread and wine of the Lord's supper.

Is it so out of line that Jesus would have told his apostles to move his worship day to Sunday? We all acknowledge that a lot of things changed between the OT and the NT. One of those things could reasonably been a change in the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. That is my take anyway. I'm sure you have heard it many times, but there it is.

Hi Ben,

Rev 1:10 is referring to John being in the Spirit on the "LORDS DAY"

God's Word tells us what day this is....

Matthew 12:8
8, FOR THE SON OF MAN IS LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH DAY.

There is no scriptures in God's Word that says Sunday is the "LORDS DAY"

This is a teaching and tradition of the Roman Catholic Church.

 

[dcontroversal]

LOL you must be daft, or think we are. You ask for proof, call me a liar if I don't produce any, then ask what it is for when I do. Almost every single post in your Sabbath thread that I have just looked at reiterates the same ridiculous assertion, that worshiping God on Sunday leads people to break the commands of God, when there is no such command against Sunday worship.

Amongst other fallacies pushed by 7th Day workers for . ..

 

[tourist]

Worshiping on Sunday breaks no commandment of God.

Indeed, every day is an acceptable and good day for the worship of the Lord.

 

[LoveGodForever]

Indeed, every day is an acceptable and good day for the worship of the Lord.

Absolutely, although only the SEVENTH day is a HOLY DAY that God have asked us to remember that NO WORK is to be done on this day. This is the 4th Commandment of the 10 Commandments. If we break one of the 10 we stand guilty before God of breaking all of them.

Only God's Word is true and we should believe and FOLLOW him who calls us in LOVE to LOVE another.

 

[LoveGodForever]

Originally Posted by Magenta

You are gossiping. Does that make you a wolf in sheep's clothing? It is so sad that you do not have a personal relationship with Jesus. If you did, perhaps you would not feel so driven to constantly lie about other people. You not only constantly lie about others, saying things like "nobody reads the Bible," but you misrepresent Scripture, saying things like it is breaking the law of God to worship on Sunday. I am afraid it is you who does not understand the good news

LOL you must be daft, or think we are. You ask for proof, call me a liar if I don't produce any, then ask what it is for when I do. Almost every single post in your Sabbath thread that I have just looked at reiterates the same ridiculous assertion, that worshiping God on Sunday leads people to break the commands of God, when there is no such command against Sunday worship.

You my purple friend are indeed a liar. You accuse me of things that I have not done. When I ask you for proof you cannot show any.

You indeed are lying. Although I am not sure what is worse you lying, or those who like your post and support you lying

Disagree?

As I said earlier...

Where have I ever posted here or anywhere in all of CC that I have said " Nobody reads the bible? Now are you telling the truth here? If your not telling the truth are you the one who is indeed lying?

Where have I ever said that to worship God on Sunday is breaking God's LAW? If I have never said such things then are you indeed the one that is bearing false witness my friend and lying here to everyone?

If you cannot post any of your claims you have made here about me that your making then indeed you are the one who is judging and lying for all the world to see. Maybe this is something you need to pray about.

I will leave this between you and God for your consideration. No need to apologise to me, I have already forgiven you and left it between you and God.

SIN will keep all who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM. Turn to the Lord while he may be found, call upon him while he is near. Let the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteousn man his thoughts and he will abundently parden.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[LoveGodForever]

Speaking of lies (bumped)...

THE FIRST LIE IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN IS THE FALSE GOSPEL

Let's start at John and at the beginning of Genesis 3 (this may be too long a study but let's try and make it shorter there are a lot of conencting scripture which I may add a few here only)

Let's start here with the father of lies......

John 8
44, Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: FOR HE IS A LIAR AND THE FATHER OF IT.

The Devil is the Father of LIES those that do not FOLLOW God follow their Father the devil and the deeds of their father they will do.

links to...........

1 John 2
3, And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4, He that saith, I KNOW HIM, and KEEPS NOT HIS COMMANDMENTS, is a LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM

links to...........

1 John 3
4, Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5, And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6, Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8, He that committeth sin is of the devil; (the father of lies and the deeds of their father they will do; John 8:44)

The father of lies from the begining. Let's go to the beginning will look at separate meanings and types....

Genesis 3
1, Now the SEPENT <Satan Rev 12:9> was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the WOMEN <Church good or bad; Jeremiah 6:2; 2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:23-27; Isaiah 1:21-27; Jeremiah 3:1-3; 6-9; Ezk 16:15-58; 23:2-21; Hos. 2:5; 3:1; Rev. 14:4>, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2, And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the FRUIT of the trees of the garden: <FRUIT of OBEDIENCE (James 2:18; 20; 26; Matthew 7:12-23; Jon 15:1-10)

3, But of the FRUIT of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, LEST YOU DIE <God's LAW; represents God's 10 commandments which gives the KNOWLEDGE of SIN and RIGHTEUSNESS; Good and Evil; Romans 3:20; 7:7; James 2:11; 1 John 3:4; Ps 119:172; but makes nothing perfect>.

4, And the serpent said unto the woman, YOU SHALL NOT SURELY DIE:< The first LIE from the beginning; John 8:44)

5, For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, KNOWING GOOD AND EVIL. < Prior to DISOBEYING God Mankind DID NOT KNOW what EVIL (SIN) was because they were in HARMONY and OBEDIENT to God's WORD>

6, And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

7, And THE EYES OF THEM WERE OPENED, AND THEY KNEW THAT THEY WERE NAKED; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. <God's LAW is the KNOWLEDGE of SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS; When they SINNED they now had the KNOWLEDGE of both GOOD and EVIL; Romans 3:20; 7:7; James 2:11; 1 John 3:4; Ps 119:172;>

The saw that they were naked and tried to cover themselves with figleaves; SIN took away their RIGHTEOUSNESS and now they are guilty before God in SIN; NAKED before God in SIN trying to cover themselves with figleaves (flithy rags) Isaiah 63:6; Righteousness to cover our nakedness only from God; Luke 15:22; If we SIN we lose it; Romans 3:19 >

8, And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

9, And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
10, And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
11, And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

Key points and putting it all together..........

The Serpent and father of LIES is the Devil he lied to MANKIND from the beginning. God's Commandment to Adam and Eve was NOT to eat of the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL (SIN AND RIGHTESOUNESS) lest you DIE. Adam and Eve did not have the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL (SIN AND RIGHTESOUNESS) because they had NEVER SINNED and where in HARMONY with God in OBEDIENCE to HIS WORD.

THE TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL REPRESENTS GOD's Commandments. The TAKING THE FRUIT symbolizes BREAKING the TREE and DISOBEYING God's Commandment NOT TO EAT the FRUIT lest you DIE is UNBELIEF in God's WORD.

THIS IS A WARNING FOR US TODAY. THE same LIE told to ADAM and EVE is being repeated in the mainstream Churches of today.

SIN is the transgression of GOD'S LAW and if anyone CONTINUES in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN; God's WORD says they will DIE and not ENTER THE KINGDOM of HEAVEN because they have rejected the GIFT of God's dear son (Romans 6:23; Hebrews 10:26-27; 6:4-8; Matthew 7:12-23)

It is only by partaking of the TREE of LIFE (BELIEVING AND FOLLOWING God's Word by LOVE) through FAITH that Gods FRUITS of OBEDIENCE are seen in the life of God's true people (1 John 3:3-10; Revelation 12:17; 14:12; 22:14) and is why Jesus says if you LOVE me keep my commandments ( John 14:15; 15:10)

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin and eating of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil when God has asked us not to eat of it (Genesis 3: 1-11; James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

 

[Magenta]

Amen.........when will people get through their head that we are not bound under the law......

Looking at his thread makes me think he is some kind of a mindless bot, copying and pasting the same things into just about every single post he makes.

 

[LoveGodForever]

Looking at his thread makes me think he is some kind of a mindless bot, copying and pasting the same things into just about every single post he makes.

Only God's Word is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW him who calls us in LOVE to LOVE another.

Rom 3:4
God forbid: yes, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That you might be justified in your sayings, and might overcome when you are judged.

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(copy and paste alert coming)

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

 

[Magenta]

You my purple friend are indeed a liar. You accuse me of things that I have not done. When I ask you for proof you cannot show any.

You indeed are lying. Although I am not sure what is worse you lying, or those who like your post and support you lying

Disagree?

As I said earlier...

Where have I ever posted here or anywhere in all of CC that I have said " Nobody reads the bible? Now are you telling the truth here? If your not telling the truth are you the one who is indeed lying?

Where have I ever said that to worship God on Sunday is breaking God's LAW? If I have never said such things then are you indeed the one that is bearing false witness my friend and lying here to everyone?

If you cannot post any of your claims you have made here about me that your making then indeed you are the one who is judging and lying for all the world to see. Maybe this is something you need to pray about.

I will leave this between you and God for your consideration. No need to apologise to me, I have already forgiven you and left it between you and God.

SIN will keep all who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM. Turn to the Lord while he may be found, call upon him while he is near. Let the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteousn man his thoughts and he will abundently parden.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).

Liars like you rarely repent, since you refuse to even acknowledge your lies.

PS lack of evidence is not proof of anything, though it does make you a liar again.

Like when you accused me of saying things I did not. Will you deny THAT again? You did in the very same thread you accused me. I ask if it is a sin to work on Sabbath, do you think Jesus sinned, since HE worked on the Sabbath? And you make up all kinds of things and try to stick them on me, simply because I ask you a question that you cannot answer without showing the falseness of your position.

Same for you saying you do not judge people. What a joke. That is pretty much all you do.

 

[LoveGodForever]

PS lack of evidence is not proof of anything, though it does make you a liar again.

So you admit you have no evidence for your accusations towards me? Then you need to seek God's forgiveness in prayer. I have already forgiven you.

 

[Magenta]

So you admit you have no evidence for your accusations towards me? Then you need to seek God's forgiveness in prayer. I have already forgiven you.

I gave you evidence and you asked what it was for. Your pretenses wear thin.

 

[Magenta]

Hello Friend, lots of accusations but nothing from God's Word I see. Sunday worship is a teaching and tradition of man that breaks the commandments of God. There is no scripture in all of God’s Word that says that Jesus is a Sabbath only that he is the Lord of the Sabbath and he made it for all of mankind and commands us to keep it as a holy day as a memorial of creation (Mark 2:27-28; Gen 2:1-3; Ex 20:8-11). The same as there is no command that says God's 4th commandment is now abolished and we are commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day.

Jesus says that if we knowingly follow the teachings and traditions of men that break God's commandments we are not following God. Who should we believe and follow the teachings and traditions of man or the Word of God? Jesus says if you love me keep my commandments. If we brake God's Law we do not show our love to God or man. If we brake one we are guilty before God of breaking them all and do not know him (James 2:8-12; 1 John 3:3-9)

UNBELIEF is from those that follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God because they choose not to believe God's Word and hold on to man made traditions. If you do not believe God's Word that is shared here. Please by all means make your case and let's talk scripture?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word..​

You are a liar, and a false teacher. There is NO commandment against Sunday worship.
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[VCO]

Worshiping on Sunday breaks no commandment of God.

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Here is the new covenant Commandment to Worship, and notice no specific day that we are to worship, in fact we can worship every day of the week.


Hebrews 10:23-25 (ESV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for he who promised is faithful.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works,
[SUP]25 [/SUP] not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.

Romans 14:5 (NIV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.

Hebrews 7:11-16 (NRSV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Now if perfection had been attainable through the levitical priesthood—for the people received the law under this priesthood—what further need would there have been to speak of another priest arising according to the order of Melchizedek, rather than one according to the order of Aaron? {Melchizedek was both King and High Priest, just as Jesus is both KING and HIGH PRIEST.}

[SUP]12 [/SUP] For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily a change in the law as well.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Now the one of whom these things are spoken belonged to another tribe, from which no one has ever served at the altar.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] For it is evident that our Lord was descended from Judah, and in connection with that tribe Moses said nothing about priests.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] It is even more obvious when another priest arises, resembling Melchizedek,
[SUP]16 [/SUP] one who has become a priest, not through a legal requirement concerning physical descent, but through the power of an indestructible life.



One Commandment was for ISRAEL, the Sign of the First Covenant, and We in the Second Covenant have a different Commandment.

Those who want to worship on Saturday, are free to do so. But they are wrong to tell us we HAVE TO WORSHIP ON SATURDAY. We can worship on Any and Even Every Day of the Week.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

What a train wreck...who has time for it? If someone doesn't yet understand the new and life giving way by the Spirit and not by the letter, no amount of arguing will get them to see it. God can though.