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Now NNM,
That is a very long post that is a little off topic don't you think? How does that post above address one thing that I have posted here?
Here are the posts and scriptures with questions in them that I posted earlier for ease of access that you or anyone else here have not addressed.
1. WHO ARE THE CHILDERN OF GOD?
POST # 56217 (linked)
2. SAVED BY GRACE FOR OBEDIENCE TO THE FAITH
POST # 56231 (linked)
3. REPENTANCE CHANGE OF MIND; SIN STARTS IN THE MIND
POST # 56248 (linked)
4. HOW DO YOU KNOW IF YOU KNOW GOD; WHO ARE GOD'S PEOPLE?
POSTS # 56252 (linked)
5. WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BELIEVE? (change topic to hebrews 10)
POST # 56256; POST # 56277 (unanswered)
6. PRACTICING KNOWN SIN WILL KEEP YOU OUT OF GOD'S KINGDOM (Heb 10:26-27) response to your interpretation
POST # 56279
I am not sure how posting something that is not relevant to a discussion and topic is addressing the posts and scriptures in them in your view. Maybe this question may help?
If someone is professing to be a Christian but they are choosing to live a life of KNOWN UNREPETANT SIN; ARE THEY IN A SAVED STATE BEFORE GOD OR AN UNSAVED STATE BEFORE GOD?
SIN is the transgression of God's LAW. Those who practice KNOWN unrepentant SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
The gift is always there unless you reject it. You can know that you have rejected it if you hate your neighbor and will not forgive him his trespass against you.
Then you can always say that that good Christain was never really saved in the first place. That would be right. He was not saved.
So how many other things that are perfect examples of the challenges in our life that openly tells Jesus that we reject the gift, or shines a light on the fact that we were never saved in the first place???
Let me give you another example: Matthew 7:26-27
Jesus says that everyone who heareth my words and doeth them not is like a man that builds his house on sand. And when the rain falls, the house is washed away and great is the fall thereof.
What is the moral of this story? It is, the man heard and believed and thought he was saved, but did not do what Jesus told him to do. So he rejected the gift because he built his house on the sand. Or he was not really saved in the first place and so the fall thereof of his house was great.
OSAS is an illusion that will catch many good Christians, and their reward in heaven will be less than they expected.
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Then you can always say that that good Christain was never really saved in the first place. That would be right. He was not saved.
So how many other things that are perfect examples of the challenges in our life that openly tells Jesus that we reject the gift, or shines a light on the fact that we were never saved in the first place???
Let me give you another example: Matthew 7:26-27
Jesus says that everyone who heareth my words and doeth them not is like a man that builds his house on sand. And when the rain falls, the house is washed away and great is the fall thereof.
What is the moral of this story? It is, the man heard and believed and thought he was saved, but did not do what Jesus told him to do. So he rejected the gift because he built his house on the sand. Or he was not really saved in the first place and so the fall thereof of his house was great.
OSAS is an illusion that will catch many good Christians, and their reward in heaven will be less than they expected.
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Very good question??? What do we receive as an award when we make it to heaven?
One scripture (Romans 8:17) says that we are joint-heirs with Christ and will share all that he hath been given of the Father, which turns out to be all that the Father has. So maybe your share of what God would have given you will be diminished?
One scripture (Romans 8:17) says that we are joint-heirs with Christ and will share all that he hath been given of the Father, which turns out to be all that the Father has. So maybe your share of what God would have given you will be diminished?
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Then there was never a gift. It was always a reward. and I needed to earn it by failing to forgive my neighbor,.
If all the person did was have a neighbor who did such an extreme thing to him that he could not find himself able to forgive that one person.,IK would not even say he is at that time unsaved.
Well the law says if we are not perfect. that if wee fail in even one area. we are guilty of the whole law. and the penalty for that guilt is the curse of the law. which is spiritual death,
when you have fulfilled that aspect in your life. then come talk to me about areas where we may be weak and this proves awe are not saved, especially since God said one sin is all it takes to make us totally worthy of death. and you want to talk about specific sins?
The moral of the story is this, Whoever hears his words and does them (starring with faith in the gospel. and continuing with faith in other areas of our life) we are building our foundation on Christ.
whoever hears,. and does not do the things jesus said (starting by unbelief) builds his foundation on self (sand) and his foundation will crumble and he will die. unless he moves his house to the sand before he dies.
lol, The very example you gave proves osas. Whoever built th3eir house on the rock (chriust) the house no matter what, never came down, it stood forever (osas)
whoever build their house on the sand (self) were fools. there house was destroyed when the first part of tribulation, or anxiety, or temptation or whatever it was that would take our focus off Christ.
You should think more before you give examples and make general observations, when your examples are apposed to your observation.
If all the person did was have a neighbor who did such an extreme thing to him that he could not find himself able to forgive that one person.,IK would not even say he is at that time unsaved.
Well the law says if we are not perfect. that if wee fail in even one area. we are guilty of the whole law. and the penalty for that guilt is the curse of the law. which is spiritual death,
when you have fulfilled that aspect in your life. then come talk to me about areas where we may be weak and this proves awe are not saved, especially since God said one sin is all it takes to make us totally worthy of death. and you want to talk about specific sins?
The moral of the story is this, Whoever hears his words and does them (starring with faith in the gospel. and continuing with faith in other areas of our life) we are building our foundation on Christ.
whoever hears,. and does not do the things jesus said (starting by unbelief) builds his foundation on self (sand) and his foundation will crumble and he will die. unless he moves his house to the sand before he dies.
lol, The very example you gave proves osas. Whoever built th3eir house on the rock (chriust) the house no matter what, never came down, it stood forever (osas)
whoever build their house on the sand (self) were fools. there house was destroyed when the first part of tribulation, or anxiety, or temptation or whatever it was that would take our focus off Christ.
You should think more before you give examples and make general observations, when your examples are apposed to your observation.
The Lord will be the judge of these types of things, not me or you. That is why my example used 2 years and not 2 hours. It is difficult to know how the Lord will judge. But the heart will betray many.
In any event, lighlovehope's example of Jesus is the bridge, I thought was very good.
In any event, lighlovehope's example of Jesus is the bridge, I thought was very good.
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And to me that's where the issue is.
To me you have judged by the very fact when you quoted Matthew.
I may have misunderstood what you were trying to convey.
But here is what I hear your saying.
"If you do not forgive before you die then you will not be forgiven"
That's why I asked you "In that case is that the unforgivable sin to you?
To me you have judged by the very fact when you quoted Matthew.
I may have misunderstood what you were trying to convey.
But here is what I hear your saying.
"If you do not forgive before you die then you will not be forgiven"
That's why I asked you "In that case is that the unforgivable sin to you?
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turns out all these things are already ours. oh, and they were not a reward. they were part of the gracious gift of God through his son.
Eph 1:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ (every means every) , [SUP] 4 [/SUP]just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, [SUP]5 [/SUP]having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, [SUP]6 [/SUP]to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved. (we did not make our self acceptable)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace (not earned) [SUP]8 [/SUP]which He made to abound toward us in all wisdom and prudence, [SUP]9 [/SUP]having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself, [SUP]10 [/SUP]that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both[SUP][a][/SUP] which are in heaven and which are on earth—in Him. [SUP]11 [/SUP]In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will, [SUP]12 [/SUP]that we who first trusted in Christ (Not by works, but by faith) should be to the praise of His glory.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]In Him you also trusted (Again by faith not works), after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, [SUP]14 [/SUP]who[SUP][b][/SUP] is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
Yep, it is all a gift.
Eph 1:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ (every means every) , [SUP] 4 [/SUP]just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, [SUP]5 [/SUP]having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, [SUP]6 [/SUP]to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved. (we did not make our self acceptable)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace (not earned) [SUP]8 [/SUP]which He made to abound toward us in all wisdom and prudence, [SUP]9 [/SUP]having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself, [SUP]10 [/SUP]that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both[SUP][a][/SUP] which are in heaven and which are on earth—in Him. [SUP]11 [/SUP]In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will, [SUP]12 [/SUP]that we who first trusted in Christ (Not by works, but by faith) should be to the praise of His glory.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]In Him you also trusted (Again by faith not works), after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, [SUP]14 [/SUP]who[SUP][b][/SUP] is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
Yep, it is all a gift.
Acts 8:22-23 Repent of this wickedness and pray to the Lord. Perhaps he will forgive you for having such a thought in your heart. For I see that you are full of BITTERNESS and captive to sin.”
Romans 3:14 “Their mouths are full of cursing and BITTERNESS.”
Ephesians 4:31 Get rid of all BITTERNESS, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice.
Romans 3:14 “Their mouths are full of cursing and BITTERNESS.”
Ephesians 4:31 Get rid of all BITTERNESS, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice.
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please read the end of romans 8 pleae
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27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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1.
john 6
27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
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2.
Ezekiel 36:26
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
1 Samuel 16:7
7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
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3.
1 peter 1
3.Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
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4.
1 john 3
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
john 6
27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
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2.
Ezekiel 36:26
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
1 Samuel 16:7
7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
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3.
1 peter 1
3.Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
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4.
1 john 3
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
Romans 10:14-15 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? A
AND HOW CAN THEY BELIEVE in the one of whom they have NOT HEARD? And HOW CAN THEY HEAR WITHOUT SOMEONE PREACHING TO THEM? And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”
AND HOW CAN THEY BELIEVE in the one of whom they have NOT HEARD? And HOW CAN THEY HEAR WITHOUT SOMEONE PREACHING TO THEM? And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”
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[SUP]13 [/SUP]In Him you also trusted (Again by faith not works), AFTER you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, [SUP]14 [/SUP]who[SUP][b][/SUP] is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
PRACTICING KNOWN SIN WILL KEEP YOU OUT OF GOD'S KINGDOM
Eze 3:17-21
17, Son of man, I have made you a watchman to the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me. 18, When I say to the wicked, You shall surely die; and you give him not warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand. 19, Yet if you warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered your soul. 20, Again, When a righteous man does turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because you have not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at your hand. 21, Nevertheless if you warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he does not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also you have delivered your soul.
Eze 18:4, Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sins, it shall die.,
Eze 18:13, Has given forth on usury, and has taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he has done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be on him.
Isaiah 59:2
But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
Micah 3:4
Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves in an evil way in their deeds.
Jer 31:29-30,
In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge, But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eats the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.
Ezekiel 39:23-24
And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword. According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them
Isaiah 1:15
And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
Deuteronomy 31:17-18
Then my anger shall be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them, and I will hide my face from them, and they shall be devoured, and many evils and troubles shall befall them; so that they will say in that day, Are not these evils come upon us, because our God is not among us? And I will surely hide my face in that day for all the evils which they shall have wrought, in that they are turned unto other gods.
Proverbs 1:28 and Proverbs 1:29
Then they will call me, but I won’t answer; they will seek me earnestly, but they won’t find me. For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord
Isaiah 57:17
Because of the iniquity of his unjust gain I was angry, I struck him; I hid my face and was angry, but he went on backsliding in the way of his own heart.
Proverbs 15:29
The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous.
Deuteronomy 32:19-20
And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters. And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very perverse generation, children in whom is no faith.
John 9:31
We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does his will, God listens to him.
Proverbs 28:9
He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.
Job 27:8-9
For what hope hath the hypocrite when he hath heaped up riches, if God take away his soul? Will God hear his cry, when trouble cometh upon him?
Zechariah 7:13
Therefore it has come to pass that as He cried and they would not hear, so they cried and I would not hear,” saith the Lord of hosts.
Ezekiel 8:17-18
Have you seen this, son of man?” he asked. “Is it nothing to the people of Judah that they commit these detestable sins, leading the whole nation into violence, thumbing their noses at me, and provoking my anger? Therefore, I will respond in fury. I will neither pity nor spare them. And though they cry for mercy, I will not listen.
Jeremiah 14:10-12
Thus saith the Lord unto this people, Thus have they loved to wander, they have not refrained their feet, therefore the Lord doth not accept them; he will now remember their iniquity, and visit their sins. Then said the Lord unto me, Pray not for this people for their good. When they fast, I will not hear their cry; and when they offer burnt offering and an oblation, I will not accept them: but I will consume them by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence.
Isaiah 58:9
At that time, when you call, the Lord will answer; when you cry out, He will say, ‘Here I am.’ If you get rid of the yoke among you, the finger-pointing and malicious speaking,
Proverbs 21:13
Whoso stoppeth his ears at the cry of the poor, he also shall cry himself, but shall not be heard.
Psalm 66:18
If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me
Psalm 34:15-16
The eyes of the Lord are upon the righteous, and his ears are open unto their cry. The face of the Lord is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth.
Hebrews 10:26-27
26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,
27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
1 John 2:3-4
3, And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4, He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 3:3-10
3, And every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure. 4, Whoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5, And you know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6, Whoever stays in him sins not: whoever sins has not seen him, neither known him.7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8, He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9, Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.
Yep don't look good for some come Judgement day.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
Eze 3:17-21
17, Son of man, I have made you a watchman to the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me. 18, When I say to the wicked, You shall surely die; and you give him not warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand. 19, Yet if you warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered your soul. 20, Again, When a righteous man does turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because you have not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at your hand. 21, Nevertheless if you warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he does not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also you have delivered your soul.
Eze 18:4, Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sins, it shall die.,
Eze 18:13, Has given forth on usury, and has taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he has done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be on him.
Isaiah 59:2
But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
Micah 3:4
Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves in an evil way in their deeds.
Jer 31:29-30,
In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge, But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eats the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.
Ezekiel 39:23-24
And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword. According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them
Isaiah 1:15
And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
Deuteronomy 31:17-18
Then my anger shall be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them, and I will hide my face from them, and they shall be devoured, and many evils and troubles shall befall them; so that they will say in that day, Are not these evils come upon us, because our God is not among us? And I will surely hide my face in that day for all the evils which they shall have wrought, in that they are turned unto other gods.
Proverbs 1:28 and Proverbs 1:29
Then they will call me, but I won’t answer; they will seek me earnestly, but they won’t find me. For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord
Isaiah 57:17
Because of the iniquity of his unjust gain I was angry, I struck him; I hid my face and was angry, but he went on backsliding in the way of his own heart.
Proverbs 15:29
The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous.
Deuteronomy 32:19-20
And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters. And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very perverse generation, children in whom is no faith.
John 9:31
We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does his will, God listens to him.
Proverbs 28:9
He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.
Job 27:8-9
For what hope hath the hypocrite when he hath heaped up riches, if God take away his soul? Will God hear his cry, when trouble cometh upon him?
Zechariah 7:13
Therefore it has come to pass that as He cried and they would not hear, so they cried and I would not hear,” saith the Lord of hosts.
Ezekiel 8:17-18
Have you seen this, son of man?” he asked. “Is it nothing to the people of Judah that they commit these detestable sins, leading the whole nation into violence, thumbing their noses at me, and provoking my anger? Therefore, I will respond in fury. I will neither pity nor spare them. And though they cry for mercy, I will not listen.
Jeremiah 14:10-12
Thus saith the Lord unto this people, Thus have they loved to wander, they have not refrained their feet, therefore the Lord doth not accept them; he will now remember their iniquity, and visit their sins. Then said the Lord unto me, Pray not for this people for their good. When they fast, I will not hear their cry; and when they offer burnt offering and an oblation, I will not accept them: but I will consume them by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence.
Isaiah 58:9
At that time, when you call, the Lord will answer; when you cry out, He will say, ‘Here I am.’ If you get rid of the yoke among you, the finger-pointing and malicious speaking,
Proverbs 21:13
Whoso stoppeth his ears at the cry of the poor, he also shall cry himself, but shall not be heard.
Psalm 66:18
If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me
Psalm 34:15-16
The eyes of the Lord are upon the righteous, and his ears are open unto their cry. The face of the Lord is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth.
Hebrews 10:26-27
26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,
27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
1 John 2:3-4
3, And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4, He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 3:3-10
3, And every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure. 4, Whoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5, And you know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6, Whoever stays in him sins not: whoever sins has not seen him, neither known him.7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8, He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9, Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.
Yep don't look good for some come Judgement day.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).