The Rapture

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But you have not shown me why those errors are NOT errors. So why don't you do that?
What errors?? The difference of opinion about what the meaning of peripheral scriptures say?? It is only opinion about them. Go tell the different denominations that hold conflicting views they are in error.
 

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Revelations gives us signs in the heavens to look for. Have you been watching? There are things that have to line up with scripture such as the Anti Christ showing up and several battles but the stars are God's time piece and they also show that things are coming to an end. All these things have to line up with scripture and if taken out of context the person will be wrong.
I agree signs in the heaven have occurred One is the eclipse that went completely across the continental US. That is a sign from Biblical times of God's condemnation!! That states the condemnation but not when or how!
 
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Ahwatukee

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We already know.

2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

For the cause of Christ
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Good day Roger,

In post #8277, Roadkill made the claim that an angel told him from God the Father, that in May of 2018 ground breaking for the new temple would take place, with the laying of the first brick. Therefore, since he has used this event as proof that this is from God the Father, once May comes and goes without fulfillment, at that time he will be a false prophet, because what God says, He will perform. When a prophet would make a claim, whether that event took place or not was how they could determine whether or not the person was truly a prophet of God. So, I have May marked down on my calendar and when that event doesn't take place during the month of May, it will prove that what he received was not from God, and that will end the argument of everything else that he has been claiming.
 

Roadkill

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I've heard it all before! Every so often one of you says these things that never happens!!
Ecclesiastes 1:18

This at this time is being hid in plain sight. Because of all the people who have predicted wrongly it is well hidden.

But you don't have the Faith to search it out now do you? Jesus questioned if there would be any faith left when he returned. Sad that those of you who profess Jesus never search for more than what is written in Scripture.
 

Roadkill

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Good day Roger,

In post #8277, Roadkill made the claim that an angel told him from God the Father, that in May of 2018 ground breaking for the new temple would take place, with the laying of the first brick. Therefore, since he has used this event as proof that this is from God the Father, once May comes and goes without fulfillment, at that time he will be a false prophet, because what God says, He will perform. When a prophet would make a claim, whether that event took place or not was how they could determine whether or not the person was truly a prophet of God. So, I have May marked down on my calendar and when that event doesn't take place during the month of May, it will prove that what he received was not from God, and that will end the argument of everything else that he has been claiming.
Again you put words in my mouth. I said Groundbreaking. Never said "Laying of the first brick". What this entails I'm not sure but in the building field groundbreaking means preparing the ground for a new foundation. Can't lay a brick until you groundbreak and lay a foundation. Go back and read and get it right friend.
 

Roadkill

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I agree signs in the heaven have occurred One is the eclipse that went completely across the continental US. That is a sign from Biblical times of God's condemnation!! That states the condemnation but not when or how!
The sign occurred on November 22 of 2015 but the timing wasn't right because it was God's 50 year countdown marker to the one mentioned in Revelation 12.

Someone said this would happen in September of this year because of this sign. I tried to get him to retract this but he refused. He has egg on his face now.

Agreed on the sign you have stated of the eclipse and know the timing of this also. But because of naysayers it will have to wait until after May of 2018 to be relayed. The time is close though and I would start preparing for that now.
 

Ahwatukee

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The sign occurred on November 22 of 2015 but the timing wasn't right because it was God's 50 year countdown marker to the one mentioned in Revelation 12.

Someone said this would happen in September of this year because of this sign. I tried to get him to retract this but he refused. He has egg on his face now.

Agreed on the sign you have stated of the eclipse and know the timing of this also. But because of naysayers it will have to wait until after May of 2018 to be relayed. The time is close though and I would start preparing for that now.
The signs mentioned in Rev.12 of the sun, moon and stars, are not representing cosmic events! God gives us the answer to these symbols in Genesis 37:9-10:

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Then he had another dream, and he told it to his brothers. “Listen,” he said, “I had another dream, and this time the sun and moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me.”

When he told his father as well as his brothers, his father rebuked him and said, “What is this dream you had? Will your mother and I and your brothers actually come and bow down to the ground before you?”

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Sun = Jacob

Moon = wife/wives

Eleven stars = Eleven son's of Jacob with Joseph as number twelve

The woman of Revelation 12 symbolically represents the nation Israel. Therefore, this is not a cosmic sign but points the reader to the woman as representing Israel. It has nothing to do with the literal sun, moon and stars.
 

Ahwatukee

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Again you put words in my mouth. I said Groundbreaking. Never said "Laying of the first brick". What this entails I'm not sure but in the building field groundbreaking means preparing the ground for a new foundation. Can't lay a brick until you groundbreak and lay a foundation. Go back and read and get it right friend.
My apologies. Whatever takes place involving ground breaking. But regardless, when May of this year comes and goes without any kind of ground breaking or activity relating to the building of the new temple, then you will be guilty of being a false prophet/teacher. Because what God says, he will do. And regarding this ground breaking since you have said to me "now for your verification, here is something to let you know this is from God the Father," then you have painted yourself into a corner by specifying the month of May.

I am against you regarding this because your claim does not match scripture. First of all, the building of the temple is going to be made possible by the revealing of the antichrist, who hasn't been revealed yet. And second, it is not going to take forty years to build the temple, but will be built within a short time at the beginning of the first 3 1/2 years of that seven year period. From that time Israel will begin her sacrifices and offerings where the antichrist will put a stop to them in the middle of the seven, with the last 3 1/2 years being the great tribulation.

Regarding the temple, they already have the blue prints to build it, the temple furniture, the reassembly of the Sanhedrin, the priests clothing and ephod, etc., etc. So they are and have been ready to go. It's just a matter of the revealing of the antichrist to make that seven year covenant. But before that can take place, the church must be gathered, because the revealing of the antichrist is represented by the first seal, which initiates the wrath of God, and which believers are not appointed to suffer.

So, I'll be here to remind you in June after there is no ground breaking in May.
 

Roadkill

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My apologies. Whatever takes place involving ground breaking. But regardless, when May of this year comes and goes without any kind of ground breaking or activity relating to the building of the new temple, then you will be guilty of being a false prophet/teacher. Because what God says, he will do. And regarding this ground breaking since you have said to me "now for your verification, here is something to let you know this is from God the Father," then you have painted yourself into a corner by specifying the month of May.

I am against you regarding this because your claim does not match scripture. First of all, the building of the temple is going to be made possible by the revealing of the antichrist, who hasn't been revealed yet. And second, it is not going to take forty years to build the temple, but will be built within a short time at the beginning of the first 3 1/2 years of that seven year period. From that time Israel will begin her sacrifices and offerings where the antichrist will put a stop to them in the middle of the seven, with the last 3 1/2 years being the great tribulation.

Regarding the temple, they already have the blue prints to build it, the temple furniture, the reassembly of the Sanhedrin, the priests clothing and ephod, etc., etc. So they are and have been ready to go. It's just a matter of the revealing of the antichrist to make that seven year covenant. But before that can take place, the church must be gathered, because the revealing of the antichrist is represented by the first seal, which initiates the wrath of God, and which believers are not appointed to suffer.

So, I'll be here to remind you in June after there is no ground breaking in May.
Fair enough Friend. I've talked to this Angel again and to clarify "Groundbreaking" He told me that what would happen in may is that an agreement will be reached to build the Temple again. That they will actually steak out the foundation measurements on the ground with construction strings. I am assuming that this will require the dirt work to be done first as most construction does this first but I could be wrong on that. This would be a mistake on my part not the Angel's because of what I construed as "groundbreaking".

I'm not a prophet as I said before. This is verbal communication. A Prophet dedicates his life to God solely and through meditation (without the use of any drugs) is able to Speak to God himself. I do NOT have this ability so please do not put me in that category when this occurs. I'm not worthy of that Title.

Yes it will take 40 years to complete due to the strife this will create in the Middle East and the World.

What is important to remember is that this event is going to precede the World in a Violent downward Spiral of war and chaos. This will eventually end up with the Battle of Gog and Magog happening. After this battle the Anti Christ will fill the power vacuum left of these forces being annihilated. The Anti Christ will come to power to be sure but the Temple being built is a big part of this scene.
 

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I'm not Crawfishing my way out of this though. What I've written I stand by it. It will be major news in Jerusalem and probably the world. What happens in May will verify from whom this Angel comes from and of what he told me of the Rapture is from God. It will also verify that what I told you is true. It does Not make me a Prophet and I only recognize Jesus as God's Christ and Salvation for mankind.
 

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I'm not Crawfishing my way out of this though. What I've written I stand by it. It will be major news in Jerusalem and probably the world. What happens in May will verify from whom this Angel comes from and of what he told me of the Rapture is from God. It will also verify that what I told you is true. It does Not make me a Prophet and I only recognize Jesus as God's Christ and Salvation for mankind.

My only question is this....what will you do if this comes to pass and nothing comes from it?
 

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My only question is this....what will you do if this comes to pass and nothing comes from it?
I will recognize that only predictions from God are 100 o/o accurate and this Angel was not from God.
I will apologize to ALL my Brethren who have to convince me otherwise( this includes you Ahwatukee).
I will withdraw anything I have written and recant it.
I will delete my account and fade into the void. LOL
Agreed?
 

MichaelOwen

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I will recognize that only predictions from God are 100 o/o accurate and this Angel was not from God.
I will apologize to ALL my Brethren who have to convince me otherwise( this includes you Ahwatukee).
I will withdraw anything I have written and recant it.
I will delete my account and fade into the void. LOL
Agreed?
I can understand that. It's just, when you've heard and followed so many of these sayings and premonitions and such, and there have been so many, it's just hard to take serious. In a way, I hope you're right and it does come to pass, that would be such an amazing moment and you would be well vindicated, but at the same time, it would be a huge wake up call from our Lord
 

Ahwatukee

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I will recognize that only predictions from God are 100 o/o accurate and this Angel was not from God.
I will apologize to ALL my Brethren who have to convince me otherwise( this includes you Ahwatukee).
I will withdraw anything I have written and recant it.
I will delete my account and fade into the void. LOL
Agreed?
Good day Roadkill,

Actually, when this doesn't pan out, why don't you just confess it and ask God for forgiveness and trust in His written word. You don't have to leave the site, just step up and make it right. And I would suggest that if you see any more angels to ask them in the name of the Lord if they were sent from Him.
 

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Good day Roadkill,

Actually, when this doesn't pan out, why don't you just confess it and ask God for forgiveness and trust in His written word. You don't have to leave the site, just step up and make it right. And I would suggest that if you see any more angels to ask them in the name of the Lord if they were sent from Him.
I'm an honorable person and will do so to set it right if not correct.

I've been trying to tell you I did ask him if he was an angel of the Lord. He said yes. I then challenged him to confess the gospel of Jesus Christ and he do so. I believe we are instructed to challenge all Spiritual beings this way by 1st John chapter 4 verses 1-3. That is the Bible's instructions for challenging Angels and All spiritual beings. If he had not done so I would have had nothing to do with him.

I have never in my life messed with the occult so this is my first experience with a spiritual being. But since I have met him I have constantly done Demonic Warfare with his advice on how to help put them under darkness. This is my speciality, not prophecy. I'm not seeing these events so far. I'm asking questions about them and with a lot of research he is answering my questions and verifying what I have found. What he told me about the Rapture blew me away because I am Southern Baptist and I was always taught we would all go at once, the dead first then the living in Christ.

I know you guys have no way of knowing if I am lying or not and that is why I asked if I could tell you guys about the Temple.
 
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Good day Roadkill,

Actually, when this doesn't pan out, why don't you just confess it and ask God for forgiveness and trust in His written word. You don't have to leave the site, just step up and make it right. And I would suggest that if you see any more angels to ask them in the name of the Lord if they were sent from Him.
Nice post old man.
Just joking friend
 
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I'm an honorable person and will do so to set it right if not correct.

I've been trying to tell you I did ask him if he was an angel of the Lord. He said yes. I then challenged him to confess the gospel of Jesus Christ and he do so. I believe we are instructed to challenge all Spiritual beings this way by 1st John chapter 4 verses 1-3. That is the Bible's instructions for challenging Angels and All spiritual beings. If he had not done so I would have had nothing to do with him.

I have never in my life messed with the occult so this is my first experience with a spiritual being. But since I have met him I have constantly done Demonic Warfare with his advice on how to help put them under darkness. This is my speciality, not prophecy. I'm not seeing these events so far. I'm asking questions about them and with a lot of research he is answering my questions and verifying what I have found. What he told me about the Rapture blew me away because I am Southern Baptist and I was always taught we would all go at once, the dead first then the living in Christ.

I know you guys have no way of knowing if I am lying or not and that is why I asked if I could tell you guys about the Temple.
Like they say on the drilling rig..."time will tell"
 
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I'm not Crawfishing my way out of this though. What I've written I stand by it. It will be major news in Jerusalem and probably the world. What happens in May will verify from whom this Angel comes from and of what he told me of the Rapture is from God. It will also verify that what I told you is true. It does Not make me a Prophet and I only recognize Jesus as God's Christ and Salvation for mankind.
A few posts back someone said you referred to yourself as a guy.

Are you a guy?
 

Roadkill

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A few posts back someone said you referred to yourself as a guy.

Are you a guy?
Yes I am Male. Due to poor eyesight I made a mistake on my profile and can't change that when I try. Contacted christianchat but they have not fixed it yet.