NEW PRETRIB RAPTURE EVIDENCE!!!

[heartofdavid]

God's wrath and the tribulation are 2 very different things and that is where you miss it at.

When the beast technology called crypto currency destroys/replaces the World wide banking system and you must receive a implant to buy or sell and Jesus has not returned yet, and bread costs you a day wages, because of famine and Jesus has still not came back, you will remember this post.

Neither of you embrace the fact that all take the mark.
All on the planet take the mark
( according to the word).
Where would these supposed christians be hiding?

They are the innumerable number left behind,and martyred. It even says they had dirty robes and came out of Great Tribulation.
Millions? Billions?
End of church age happens very quickly.
Early on.
Church disappears off the earth

 

[heartofdavid]

Now I just go accused of changing the Word of God and NOW you are saying they had extra Oil in Flasks......WHere does it say that.

Says it in the parable.
It is the heart of the matter.
Vessels,flasks,skins,canteen,jar.
All those work

 

[heartofdavid]

I do believe there will be a pre tribulation rapture, but I don't agree with the "partial rapture" theory, which is the belief that some believers will be raptured while other believers are left behind. I know the partial theory misinterprets this parable of the virgins in order to support their theory. I just don't see how all 10 of the virgins are true believers. Outwardly they look the same, but 5 are missing the Holy Spirit.

The foolish asked the wise for oil,or an impartation ov what they had abundance of.
The Holy Spirit is transferrable. Salvation is not.
Yet another reason we can see the foolish are in fact saved born again believers.

Folks,if doctrine trips up a simple parable,change churches

 

[Bladerunner]

I dont think it ties in.
The 5 foolish had no such testimony as you ascribe to them.
It appears you are trying to ascribe osas doctrine to a non osas dynamic.
Thankfully that doctrine is not needed or implied to the virgin parable.
Rabbit trail big time

If you will notice the paragraph stops at verse 14. I am sorry you do not see this...this part of the Gospel for the Kingdom of God. Simply read verses 10-14. Yes, they are part of the Parable.

 

[Bladerunner]

Says it in the parable.
It is the heart of the matter.
Vessels,flasks,skins,canteen,jar.
All those work

Oh, you use one of them other versions of the Bible based on the Alexander manuscripts that are falsified. Now I understand where you are coming from...... SO SAD!

 

[heartofdavid]

If you will notice the paragraph stops at verse 14. I am sorry you do not see this...this part of the Gospel for the Kingdom of God. Simply read verses 10-14. Yes, they are part of the Parable.

In your post i was addressing your comparison of " i NEVER knew you" to the " I know you not" of mat 25.

Two very different dynamics.

 

[heartofdavid]

Oh, you use one of them other versions of the Bible based on the Alexander manuscripts that are falsified. Now I understand where you are coming from...... SO SAD!

I dont know what you are talking about.
Be specific

 

[heartofdavid]

Oh, you use one of them other versions of the Bible based on the Alexander manuscripts that are falsified. Now I understand where you are coming from...... SO SAD!

Looked it up in the Recieved text.
It is LITTERALLY " CROCKS"

....WORKS FOR ME.
you got a issue with the greek?

 

[3Scoreand10]

Neither of you embrace the fact that all take the mark.
All on the planet take the mark
( according to the word).
Where would these supposed christians be hiding?

Rev. 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgement was given to them: and I saw the souls of those who were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the Word God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, NEITHER HAD RECEIVED HIS MARK UPON THEIR FOREHEADS, OR IN THEIR HANDS, and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

 

[Bladerunner]

Looked it up in the Recieved text.
It is LITTERALLY " CROCKS"

....WORKS FOR ME.
you got a issue with the greek?

The Alexander manuscripts are the ones that all newer version of the Bible use. The King James uses other info. not those manuscripts.....Sorry, they the Alexander Manuscripts are defunct.

 

[dcontroversal]

and you sir are in the replacement theology Gambit. That does not work for me.....No since in arguing any further.

But to give others who read this post, I will give them a 2nd version....

The Law ----- Crucifixion of Christ ---- Age of Grace or Age of the Church ----- Removal of the Church (Body of Christ) ----Jacob's Troubles or Daniel's 70th week------2nd Advent of Jesus Christ & (Millennium)----- White Throne Judgement --- New Earth and New Jerusalem.

Where are we at.... Somewhere toward the end of the 'Age of the Church'.

HAHHAHAHAH replacement NOT HARDLY PAL.....amazing you guys cannot read....

JESUS said the LAW and the PROPHETS were UNTIL JOHN....take it up with him
PAUL said their is NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK IN CHRIST, but a NEW CREATION......TAKE IT UP WITH HIM AND JESUS who inspired him......

 

[dcontroversal]

Rev. 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgement was given to them: and I saw the souls of those who were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the Word God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, NEITHER HAD RECEIVED HIS MARK UPON THEIR FOREHEADS, OR IN THEIR HANDS, and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

HEY DAYLE.....BLADEBUMMER said I am into REPLACMENT theology.......HAHAHHAAHHAHAHAH WOW....

 

[dcontroversal]

The Alexander manuscripts are the ones that all newer version of the Bible use. The King James uses other info. not those manuscripts.....Sorry, they the Alexander Manuscripts are defunct.

That would be the TEXTUS RECEPTUS..............

 

[Ahwatukee]

Neither of you embrace the fact that all take the mark.
All on the planet take the mark
( according to the word).
Where would these supposed christians be hiding?

They are the innumerable number left behind,and martyred. It even says they had dirty robes and came out of Great Tribulation.
Millions? Billions?
End of church age happens very quickly.
Early on.
Church disappears off the earth

Those would be the saints who come out of the great tribulation, who will have been killed because of their testimony of Jesus, the word of and who will not have worshiped the beast, his image nor received his mark.

I continue to make known to you that, not all of the great tribulation saints (Gentiles) will be killed, which is obvious by the scriptures that refer to the judgment of the sheep and the goats, as well as the scripture in Isaiah which states that when Christ returns to the earth, He will settle disputes for many nations and they will beat their swords into plow shares and their spears into pruning hooks and will not train for war anymore. These will be those Gentiles who make it through the time of God's wrath alive. Otherwise, according to you, if everyone is killed, then there would be no Gentiles to go into the millennial period to repopulated it.

Further more, Not everyone receives the mark and that because scripture states that anyone who does is condemned! Again, there would be no one to go into the millennial period. Therefore, there will be Israel and a number of great tribulation saints who make it through the time of God's wrath and who will have not worshiped the beast, his image, nor received his mark, and who will go into the millennial period and repopulate the earth.

 

[dcontroversal]

Neither of you embrace the fact that all take the mark.
All on the planet take the mark
( according to the word).
Where would these supposed christians be hiding?

They are the innumerable number left behind,and martyred. It even says they had dirty robes and came out of Great Tribulation.
Millions? Billions?
End of church age happens very quickly.
Early on.
Church disappears off the earth

It does not say that ALL take the mark.......

a. MANY are killed for refusal to take the mark

 

[3Scoreand10]

Those would be the saints who come out of the great tribulation, who will have been killed because of their testimony of Jesus, the word of and who will not have worshiped the beast, his image nor received his mark. I continue to make known to you that, not all of the great tribulation saints, which is obvious by the scriptures there refer to the judgment of the sheep and the goats, as well as the scripture in Isaiah which states that when Christ returns to the earth, He will settle disputes for many nations and they will beat their swords into plow shares and their spears into pruning hooks and will not train for war anymore. These will be those Gentiles who make it through the time of God's wrath alive. Otherwise, according to you if everyone is killed, then there would be no Gentiles to go into the millennial period.

Further more, Not everyone receives the mark and that because scripture states that anyone who does are doomed! Again, there would be no one to go into the millennial period. Therefore, there will be Israel and a number of great tribulation saints who make it through the time of God's wrath and who will have not worshiped the beast, his image, nor received his mark, and who will go into the millennial period and repopulate the earth.

You got it correct about Israel going into the millennial in the flesh, but the Saints that are alive at coming will be changed.

 

[Ahwatukee]

You got it correct about Israel going into the millennial in the flesh, but the Saints that are alive at coming will be changed.

There will also be the great tribulation saints who make it through alive and will enter into the millennial period. Otherwise, there could be no sheep and goat judgment, which are Gentiles. And how would you explain the following:

"He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore."

There will be both Jew and Gentiles in their mortal bodies who will repopulate the earth during the millennial period. Those of the church and the great tribulation saints, will be ruling with Christ in our immortal and glorified bodies during the millennial period.

 

[3Scoreand10]

There will also be the great tribulation saints who make it through alive and will enter into the millennial period. Otherwise, there could be no sheep and goat judgment, which are Gentiles. And how would you explain the following:

"He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore."

There will be both Jew and Gentiles in their mortal bodies who will repopulate the earth during the millennial period. Those of the church and the great tribulation saints, will be ruling with Christ in our immortal and glorified bodies during the millennial period.

No Saints will enter the millennial in the flesh.
You may choose to not believe that, but that is how it is.
But you choose to not believe many truths about the end times.

 

[Ahwatukee]

No Saints will enter the millennial in the flesh.
You may choose to not believe that, but that is how it is.
But you choose to not believe many truths about the end times.

Both Israel and the great tribulation saints who make it through alive, will repopulate the earth.

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The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.
“The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’

“ ‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.

“The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’

“ ‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.

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The weeds are the wicked who will be killed by that double-edged sword at the end of the age.

The wheat will be those who make it through alive to the end of the age and who will enter into the millennial period in their mortal bodies and will repopulate the earth, along with Israel.

When the angels go throughout the earth at the end of the age as described in Matt.24:30-31, they will be gathering the people who made it through alive, and these will repopulate the earth. At the end of the age, those great tribulation saints who will have died during the great tribulation, will be resurrected in there immortal and glorified bodies and will rule with Christ during that thousand years. The one's who didn't die will enter into the millennial period and will repopulate it.

Some of the great tribulation saints will die during the great tribulation and some won't, but they are all saints.

 

[Ahwatukee]

No Saints will enter the millennial in the flesh.
You may choose to not believe that, but that is how it is.
But you choose to not believe many truths about the end times.

Here's the biggest problem with your theory:

Great tribulation saints = All killed during the great tribulation

The wicked = All killed at the return of Christ for worshiping the beast and receiving his mark.

So according to what you are claiming, there would be no wicked going into the millennial kingdom because they will all be killed and therefore will not enter into the millennial kingdom.

Then you say that, there will be no saints/righteous to enter into the millennial period in their mortal bodies.

So if the wicked are all killed when Christ returns and all of the saints are changed into their immortal and glorified bodies, then there would be no one at all to enter the millennial kingdom in their mortal bodies, because they will ether be dead or in their immortal and glorified bodies.