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LightLoveHope

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LightLoveHope said:
Zombi faith - a belief system makes you into a Zombi, and once a Zombi always a Zombi

Whatever you do you are a Zombi for all eternity.

Jesus was lying in this case.
He said this

Everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.
Matt 7:26-27

Zombies never can have a collapse because they are Zombies.
They are safe as Zombies because they are now eternal, and nothing can go wrong.

In the Zombi faith if you come to hate God, you will love Him in eternity, because God
will turn you into a loving person against your will, because that is the fate of Zombies.

Zombies do not need to do anything, whatever they are, they are accepted.

Only insecure, paranoid anxious people with a guilt complex could have invented a
Zombi faith because they do not understand love, purity, cleansing and holiness.

Have they ever met Jesus? No, because they are not listening to Him and openly
admit that by claiming His eternal words do not apply to them. By just admitting this
they are apostate and heretics. Jesus cannot not be their Lord or Savior if they refuse
to follow His words or example.
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So Jesus's words and example are the Spanish Inquisition?

This is the reality of apostacy, and those who agree with you, have no clue what
they are claiming to believe. It is a joke, like Monty Python.

Jesus called the pharisees white washed tombs because they were dead inside, and
declared the way to life was to follow His words and example.

This is why we are called the people of the "way". As soon as you deny this, you
have made a different faith and belief system. It your right to do this, but not to
then claim the words of Jesus are something different from those He spoke, and
the apostles agree with you, when they clearly do not. All I see are Zombi responses
without any real answer to Pauls encouragement

"For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life."
1 Thessalonians 4:7

You can write your own bible, but trying to argue God is not a God of conditions and rules,
is like saying football is just a game of people running about in a field, which would apply
to anyone in a field as a group but totally miss all the detail.
 
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LightLoveHope

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Jesus said this about people who reject His teaching

Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.
Matthew 7:6

When faced with arguments they cannot refute, in frustration they will attack
the speaker themselves. And what are they attacking?

Obeying Jesus.
 
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dcontroversal

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blue_ladybug said:
It means Once Saved, Always Saved.. :rolleyes:
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AMEN...and eternal security is found ALL through the bible..........

Biblical HOPE....A confident expectation of something guaranteed.......not the same hope peddled by past members who had the same hope as one who buys a lottery ticket and then hopes to win........with a 300 million to 1 odds that is...
 
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NoNameMcgee

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LightLoveHope said:
Jesus said this about people who reject His teaching

Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.
Matthew 7:6

When faced with arguments they cannot refute, in frustration they will attack
the speaker themselves. And what are they attacking?

Obeying Jesus.
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you know what Jesus actually said?

without adding our own words to it like you just did...


john 6
35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.

37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
 
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dcontroversal

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LightLoveHope said:
Jesus said this about people who reject His teaching

Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.
Matthew 7:6

When faced with arguments they cannot refute, in frustration they will attack
the speaker themselves. And what are they attacking?

Obeying Jesus.
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This is the bible discussion thread.....not the I am a joker thread...............
 
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LightLoveHope

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NoNameMcgee said:
you know what Jesus actually said?

without adding our own words to it like you just did...


john 6
35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.

37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
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Greeting NNM,

If you do not obey Him, you are not his friend, a follower, a wise man,
knowing God.
According to John if one does not love from the heart ones brother in need,
one cannot claim to know God at all, and are a liar.

The promises are for those who know God in the core of their being, who
dwell on His word and allow the Holy Spirit into the Holy place of the temple
of their bodies that Jesus has cleansed and made pure.

Now I would discuss with legalists about feeling safe by being a good person,
but not to born again, spirit filled believers who are walking in maturity and faith.

A spiritually blind man is blind because of sin in their hearts. And we only know
this personally because we know of the issues we are struggling with.

And the best sign people are in the wrong place when they reject pure love, given
freely and openly, without restraint. This tells you where someones heart is, and
what they are covering up. Forums such as this have a purpose, but this fighting
over such fundamental issues shows a different faith is contending for recognition
which it will get as a separate faith, but not as part of the evangelical fellowship
with repentance, faith and works underpinned by purity which is totally rejected.

And searching for these clear dividing lines helps show real love and understanding,
no matter how much the propogandists hate it.
 
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Ralph-

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NoNameMcgee said:
nope

my assurance comes from what He did

:)
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No, your security comes from what he did.

The assurance that you really do have what he did for you on the cross applied to your account comes from seeing yourself being conformed into the image of Christ.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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Ralph- said:
No, your security comes from what he did.

The assurance that you really do have what he did for you on the cross applied to your account comes from seeing yourself being conformed into the image of Christ.
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you sure love to push youre false understanding on me


no thanks
 
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I think we need P4T to put Ralph straight again.


 
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Ralph- said:
No, your security comes from what he did.

The assurance that you really do have what he did for you on the cross applied to your account comes from seeing yourself being conformed into the image of Christ.
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Ralph, how many sins are attributed to us? How many do we have to pay for? Either Jesus paid for them all, or we are going to hell, because we all still sin. If we are sinning by not working as much as we should, how can we lose our salvation if we have no sins to pay for?
 
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