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LightLoveHope said:
My friend, you have said I lied. I told you how your words came across and reflected
back a warning. People love to play innocents, I never meant the curse on them no
on them because they really really deserve it.

And making it bigger, fonts just means you are so emotionally carried away you cannot
accept some simply do not agree with you. But that should be ok.

Wisdom. If someone with a good heart points something out that is a problem saying
they are lying and bearing a false witness just testifies about who you are and nothing else.
This is behaviour of thorns and thistles, not grace and love.

I hold no animosity towards you, I have met this approach before, a steam train wanting to
push all before it. I admire the enthusiasm, but not the content.

And your words, God forgive your extreme expressions of sin and accusation.

Grace and peace to you
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yep, Just like peter

1. Blame shift, It is everyone's fault but mine
2. Refuse to admit you have made an error. no matter how much proof everyone gives which show you made an error
3. Get all wordy and make up things that make no sense at all, let alone, points to what is really being discussed (change topics)
 
LightLoveHope said:
Before you approach goes to far. I see no stand against, just abuse.

Jesus and the apostles were clear. We are called to live holy lives, to be gentle,
humble etc.

Believers put their faith in Jesus and some are committed to follow in His ways and
obey His commands. Unless believers truly let the Lord purify them and become with
a pure heart, it is all a waste of time.

Now I am sharing this not because all agree with me, or even it represents a theological
view etc. it just struck me how true this is. Maybe those here are stuck in pornography,
or wealth, or gambling, or luxury and pampering, or gluttony or some other addiction.

I know these realities can be hard to break, they can capture ones soul, and destroy whole
lives. But this is the fight of the gospel and the Holy Spirit for our hearts, to see Him set
us free. And I know people who have succeeded and been freed, including myself.

So this polarising language, making enemies, talking scripture like weapons where interpretations
are subtle and sometimes elusive, it speaks more about the hearts participating and what they
are scared of rather than the truth of love and Jesus.

Grace and peace to you, listen to Gods word, live a holy life.
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again, what does this have to do with a person being saved, being justified, and making it to heaven?

Can you answer? or are you afraid?

No one here is teaching it is ok to sin, and it is OK TO LOVE UNHOLY LIVES. NO ONE
 
LightLoveHope said:
You really think people desiring to follow Jesus are cursed and their sharing is cursed?
.
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did i say that?


No.

6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.




you go ahead and keep making false accusations

i never cursed anyone or anything

i said false preachers are cursed

i never said believers

i said false preachers (who pervert the gospel of Christ)

i never said scripture

i said false gospel



and when i said currently functioning as a wolf
i implied they too can come to the truth by "currently"


if you are asking if i think

"You really think people desiring to follow Jesus are cursed and their sharing is cursed"

1944. epikataratos ►
Strong's Concordance
epikataratos: accursed
Original Word: ἐπικατάρατος, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: epikataratos
Phonetic Spelling: (ep-ee-kat-ar'-at-os)
Short Definition: accursed
Definition: on whom a curse has been invoked, accursed, doomed to destruction.

^^^^^^^

if these are sheep in error
they will hear Gods call
repent from their false gospel

and come to the true gospel of Christ

if these functioning as wolves

stay wolves and deny the true gospel

they are cursed "accursed"

again

incase you missed it


8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed
 
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LightLoveHope said:
My friend, you have said I lied. I told you how your words came across and reflected
back a warning. People love to play innocents, I never meant the curse on them no
on them because they really really deserve it.

And making it bigger, fonts just means you are so emotionally carried away you cannot
accept some simply do not agree with you. But that should be ok.

Wisdom. If someone with a good heart points something out that is a problem saying
they are lying and bearing a false witness just testifies about who you are and nothing else.
This is behaviour of thorns and thistles, not grace and love.

I hold no animosity towards you, I have met this approach before, a steam train wanting to
push all before it. I admire the enthusiasm, but not the content.

And your words, God forgive your extreme expressions of sin and accusation.

Grace and peace to you
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Got to love it, he lies about others, then judges them and calls them out as liars.
 
LightLoveHope said:
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People either let Jesus purify them and create a pure heart

or believe in covering it all up is the way to be.
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This is what everyone with which you are arguing with believes, It is GOD WHO PURIFIES US, we can not purify ourselves. And God promised, he has purified wll who are his.

No one is here trying to cover it up The only one claiming people are doing that is YOU.

Thats what got you in trouble the first time, You want to continue this stuff?
 
dcontroversal said:
Joe is like the enforcer forking for the Chicago Mob......hahahahhaah HEY VITO.....you owe us 100 grand.......HAHAH
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hahahaha

they are like "nope maybe next month"

joes gentle spirit is like "ok my good man... ill be back"
:p
 
NoNameMcgee said:
hahahaha

they are like "nope maybe next month"

joes gentle spirit is like "ok my good man... ill be back"
:p
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Whoa whoa"gentle man" spirit did you witness me vs Peter "last time" I was gentle at first then let the holy spirit "fill up in me" and the full force of that led partly to his expulsion(I barely remember what I said) though I remember brother D was in his cross hairs and my intention was "setting him straight" with hardly any "gentleness" eventually.
 
joefizz said:
Whoa whoa"gentle man" spirit did you witness me vs Peter "last time" I was gentle at first then let the holy spirit "fill up in me" and the full force of that led partly to his expulsion(I barely remember what I said) though I remember brother D was in his cross hairs and my intention was "setting him straight" with hardly any "gentleness" eventually.
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hahaha
i missed it

ill go back and see

i hope you dont think im implying youre a pushover brother

ive seen you stand against opposition
:D

but if im going to be honest

i do think you are rather gentle in most cases
 
NoNameMcgee said:
hahahaha

they are like "nope maybe next month"

joes gentle spirit is like "ok my good man... ill be back"
:p
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On the other hand I guess you mean how I "wouldn't mind" Peter,Phart or Fran returning,because I did like "talking to them" and a good "sparring partner" I always appreciate.
 
Ahh forget what I just said I'm just a "Peculiar" Christian that stands for God and Truth,figuring me out would just confuse things further,hahaha hahaha hahaha!
 
NoNameMcgee said:
hahaha
i missed it

ill go back and see

i hope you dont think im implying youre a pushover brother

ive seen you stand against opposition
:D

but if im going to be honest

i do think you are rather gentle in most cases
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I guess I am always The bad Cop. someone has to be the good Cop!
 
NoNameMcgee said:
hahaha
i missed it

ill go back and see

i hope you dont think im implying youre a pushover brother

ive seen you stand against opposition
:D

but if im going to be honest

i do think you are rather gentle in most cases
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I know you're not saying I'm a pushover just clarifying a bit.
 
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Ah, at last, there is some peace and quiet around here for the last 10 mins or so. nothing but good solid convo... really refreshing :D
 
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