Not By Works

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Budman said:
I find it so odd that when anyone forcefully challenges Ralph, he starts whining and complaining about "the messenger" (him) being "attacked", but when Ralph actually attacks someone by calling them names like "rabid dog", he is only "correcting" them.
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He thinks he has an audience following his every post. Reminds me of someone else.
 
Budman said:
I find it so odd that when anyone forcefully challenges Ralph, he starts whining and complaining about "the messenger" (him) being "attacked", but when Ralph actually attacks someone by calling them names like "rabid dog", he is only "correcting" them.
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Well each to their own,my concern is only in what "kind of attacks" a doctrine attack or false witness,or accusation isn't too bad but I get steamed when someone tries "personal attacks" like targeting,especially if someone tries going outside of Christian chat to bother someone trying to shame someone here with unrelated info.
 
joefizz said:
Let me put things another way "after being saved God/Jesus will get work out of you" just like how God had Jonah work though Jonah stalled working.
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You can put it another way if you want, but it still means works are required to be saved when Jesus comes back.

You have to have works or you're not going to be saved when Jesus comes back because you show that you don't know him and don't belong to him. Why is this basic, old school 'once saved always saved' doctrine now being abandoned in the church? Do they even know they are rejecting it when they say you do not have to have works when Jesus returns to enter into the kingdom? What's your take on this?
 
stonesoffire said:
He thinks he has an audience following his every post. Reminds me of someone else.
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You've been doing a good job of following my every post.

Do you still think I'm Fran? You are sorely mistaken if you think I'm her. I don't even particularly like U-2. I probably didn't even spell it right.
 
Locutus said:
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Ralph- said:
You've been doing a good job of following my every post.

Do you still think I'm Fran? You are sorely mistaken if you think I'm her. I don't even particularly like U-2. I probably didn't even spell it right.
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I think you are many different profiles that say all the same things on each forum. And you make a lot of people angry.
 
Ralph- said:
You can put it another way if you want, but it still means works are required to be saved when Jesus comes back.

You have to have works or you're not going to be saved when Jesus comes back because you show that you don't know him and don't belong to him. Why is this basic, old school 'once saved always saved' doctrine now being abandoned in the church? Do they even know they are rejecting it when they say you do not have to have works when Jesus returns to enter into the kingdom? What's your take on this?
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no you are saved before works through accepting Jesus as saviour otherwise you aren't saved at all.
 
joefizz said:
Well each to their own,my concern is only in what "kind of attacks" a doctrine attack or false witness,or accusation isn't too bad but I get steamed when someone tries "personal attacks" like targeting,especially if someone tries going outside of Christian chat to bother someone trying to shame someone here with unrelated info.
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I'm with you. I let people think what they want about me. They're entitled to their opinion, just as I am to mine. What I think is out of line is continually being harassed by the person who has a contrary opinion about me. They just wait for the opportunity to jump and attack, over and over and over. They're holding a grudge and they aren't satisfied until they attack.
 
joefizz said:
no you are saved before works through accepting Jesus as saviour otherwise you aren't saved at all.
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I agree. So what does it mean if you have no works when Jesus comes back?

It's a simple answer, but one that people are going to great lengths to avoid in this thread.
 
stonesoffire said:
I think you are many different profiles that say all the same things on each forum. And you make a lot of people angry.
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It's just me.

I don't post anymore on forums I have been on in the past.

I was SpongeBlog a long time ago on the now defunk Salem Christian forum. Now that was a good forum. Hated to see it move to Facebook.
 
Ralph- said:
I agree. So what does it mean if you have no works when Jesus comes back?

It's a simple answer, but one that people are going to great lengths to avoid in this thread.
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no as far as I've seen in this thread we all believe that we will work up until Jesus's return,unless some self righteous so called perfect people are back lol.
 
stonesoffire said:
He thinks he has an audience following his every post. Reminds me of someone else.
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Heh, oh yes, the good old, "For those of you who are following along... " spiel.

Well, Stones, you certainly are to be commended for your patience in this regard :)

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