GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?
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What God's Word says is ..........
In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31) and to him that knows to do good and does not do it to him is it SIN (James 4:17)
SIN is breaking ANY of God's 10 COMMANDMENTS.......
James 2
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, YOU ARE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF GOD'S LAW
James is pretty clear if we brake ANY of God's Law (10 commandments) then we are a TRANSGRESSOR of God's LAW
links to...........
1 John 3
4 Whosoever commits SIN transgresses also the law: for SIN is the transgression of the law.
John is in agreement with James and states that if we TRANSGRESS God's LAW then we commit SIN because SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF GOD'S LAW. So it is very clear that SIN is breaking ANY of God's LAW (10 commandments)
Links to...........
Romans 7
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known SIN, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Well here we have Paul in agreement with James and John also telling us that SIN is breaking God's commandments and uses the 10th commandment as an example of breaking any of God's LAW (10 commandments) = SIN (Exodus 20:17)
Links to............
Romans 3
20, Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: FOR BY THE LAW IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF SIN.
Once again Paul is in agreement with John and James which all agree together that if we break any of God's LAW (10 commandments) we commit SIN because as James, John and Paul all agree together that SIN is breaking ANY of God's 10 commandments. Now read the rest below.
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27). KNOWN SIN will keep ALL who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM.
You my friend are in danger because you do not KNOW the scriptures and reject God's Word given to help you. Yes indeed if you continue in SIN when you have been given a KNOWLEDGE of God's truth you will indeed not enter into the KINGDOM of Heaven.
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There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.
In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31) and to him that knows to do good and does not do it to him is it SIN (James 4:17)
SIN is breaking ANY of God's 10 COMMANDMENTS.......
James 2
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, YOU ARE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF GOD'S LAW
James is pretty clear if we brake ANY of God's Law (10 commandments) then we are a TRANSGRESSOR of God's LAW
links to...........
1 John 3
4 Whosoever commits SIN transgresses also the law: for SIN is the transgression of the law.
John is in agreement with James and states that if we TRANSGRESS God's LAW then we commit SIN because SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF GOD'S LAW. So it is very clear that SIN is breaking ANY of God's LAW (10 commandments)
Links to...........
Romans 7
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known SIN, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Well here we have Paul in agreement with James and John also telling us that SIN is breaking God's commandments and uses the 10th commandment as an example of breaking any of God's LAW (10 commandments) = SIN (Exodus 20:17)
Links to............
Romans 3
20, Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: FOR BY THE LAW IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF SIN.
Once again Paul is in agreement with John and James which all agree together that if we break any of God's LAW (10 commandments) we commit SIN because as James, John and Paul all agree together that SIN is breaking ANY of God's 10 commandments. Now read the rest below.
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27). KNOWN SIN will keep ALL who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM.
You my friend are in danger because you do not KNOW the scriptures and reject God's Word given to help you. Yes indeed if you continue in SIN when you have been given a KNOWLEDGE of God's truth you will indeed not enter into the KINGDOM of Heaven.
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There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.
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Indeed try telling that to God on Judgement day when SIN is breaking any of God's 10 Commandments of which the 4th Commandment is one of the 10.
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There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.
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There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.
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according to James, sin is knowing to do good and not doing so. that takes it way past breaking a command.
that puts everyone ( even you Sabbath fakers ) into a sin box. no one can truthfully say that they do good in every situation of every hour of everyday.
so, keeping the Sabbath does not make one righteous. it makes one think they are, but not true according to the standard James put out.
that puts everyone ( even you Sabbath fakers ) into a sin box. no one can truthfully say that they do good in every situation of every hour of everyday.
so, keeping the Sabbath does not make one righteous. it makes one think they are, but not true according to the standard James put out.
My freind do not deceive yourself the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL or SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS comes from God's LAW (10 Commandments).
Romans 3
20, Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
James makes this very clear what he is talking about when he says; Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin (James 4:17). This is what he says on the same subject....
James 2
8, If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
James and Paul agree that the knowledge of what GOOD is comes from God's LAW (10 Commandments). That is why Jesus says the is none GOOD but God.
If you break one of God's 10 Commandments you stang guilty before God or breaking ALL of God's LAW and stand before him guilty of SIN because you have broken God's Commandments.
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).
If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27).
Practicing KNOWN SIN will keep ALL who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM.
No one here or anywhere in this thread has claimed or said that keeping any of God's LAWS makes you righteous.
How can you be made righteous by keeping God's LAW when you have no righteousness?
We are only SAVED by GRACE through FAITH and not of OURSELVES it is a GIFT of GOD and not of WORKS lest anyman should boast (Ephesains 2:8)
However, if your FAITH does not have the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE that works by LOVE then you are still in your SINS and do not KNOW him who calls you in LOVE to LOVE.
If your tree has no FRUIT it will be cast down and thrown into the fire (James 2:18; 20; 26; Matthew 7:12-23; Hebrews 10:26-27)
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In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).
If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
Romans 3
20, Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
James makes this very clear what he is talking about when he says; Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin (James 4:17). This is what he says on the same subject....
James 2
8, If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
James and Paul agree that the knowledge of what GOOD is comes from God's LAW (10 Commandments). That is why Jesus says the is none GOOD but God.
If you break one of God's 10 Commandments you stang guilty before God or breaking ALL of God's LAW and stand before him guilty of SIN because you have broken God's Commandments.
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).
If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27).
Practicing KNOWN SIN will keep ALL who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM.
No one here or anywhere in this thread has claimed or said that keeping any of God's LAWS makes you righteous.
How can you be made righteous by keeping God's LAW when you have no righteousness?
We are only SAVED by GRACE through FAITH and not of OURSELVES it is a GIFT of GOD and not of WORKS lest anyman should boast (Ephesains 2:8)
However, if your FAITH does not have the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE that works by LOVE then you are still in your SINS and do not KNOW him who calls you in LOVE to LOVE.
If your tree has no FRUIT it will be cast down and thrown into the fire (James 2:18; 20; 26; Matthew 7:12-23; Hebrews 10:26-27)
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In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).
If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
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friend,
we are in new covenant, that is why we do not follow OT
the last judgement in matt 25 Jesus AS a judge, Will judge people base of love, not base oN sabbath.
anyway, why you pick to not cook, but not kill sabbath violator? If you follow sabbath law, do both, or you do man tradition.
I believe you not Eat pork, It is not oN 10 commandment , If you say mosaic law not valid anymore, than do kindle fire oN sabbath. Friend, you use a car to go to church oN sabbath don't you. There are spark plugs in the engine. It kindle fire when the engine oN. Or you walk to church so you not violate the sabbath law.
we are in new covenant, that is why we do not follow OT
the last judgement in matt 25 Jesus AS a judge, Will judge people base of love, not base oN sabbath.
anyway, why you pick to not cook, but not kill sabbath violator? If you follow sabbath law, do both, or you do man tradition.
I believe you not Eat pork, It is not oN 10 commandment , If you say mosaic law not valid anymore, than do kindle fire oN sabbath. Friend, you use a car to go to church oN sabbath don't you. There are spark plugs in the engine. It kindle fire when the engine oN. Or you walk to church so you not violate the sabbath law.
Yes indeed that is what everyone has been trying to tell you but you keep wanting to kill the Sabbath violator from the CIVIL law of the Old Covenant.
I see so where is the scripture that says in Matthew 25 that Jesus is going to Judge the the people based on LOVE and not accoriding to God's Sabbath?
Please do not misunderstand this question, I believe everyone will be judged on wheather they LOVE or not. But your understanding on what the bible means to LOVE I think is different to mine. LOVE is the fulfilling of God's LAW in those who BELIEVE God's WORD.
Let's look at what it means to LOVE in God's Word.....
GODS LAW AND LOVE ARE ONE
You cannot separate God’s Law of love from the 10 commandments because they are connected to each other. There is no need for confusion here. God’s Word makes it very clear.
Let's have a look..........
What does Jesus say when he talk about the commandments. Jesus is quoting from Old testament scriptures of Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18.................
Matthew 22
36, Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37, Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38, This is the first and great commandment.
39, And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40, ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.
Let's get clearer..............
Matthew 19
16, And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17, And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: BUT IF YOU WILL ENTER INTO LIFE KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.
18, He saith unto him, WHICH? JESUS SAID, THOU SHALT NOT MURDER, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, HONOR YOU MOTHER AND FATHER AND THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF
20, The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21, Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. <Jesus showed him that he may have fulfilled His duty of love to his neighbor but not to God breaking commandment 1 and 2 loving riches more than God>
Well Jesus makes it very clear that what he is talking about it is the 10 commandments of God's Law.
What about James...............
James 2
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL KEEP THE WHOLE LAW AND YET OFFEND IN ONE POINT, HE SHALL BE GUILTY OF ALL.
11, FOR HE THAT SAID, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY SAID ALSO DO NOT KILL. NOW IF YOU DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY AND YOU KILL, YOU HAVE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF GOD'S LAW.
12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Well James makes it very clear what he is talking about when he talks about the Royal Law of love. He is talking about the 10 commandments. So Jesus and James both agree that they are talking about God's 10 commandments which also include the 4th commandment which is one of the ten.
What about Paul? He wrote a lot of books in God's Word.............
Romans 13
8, Owe no man any thing, but to LOVE ONE ANOTHER: for HE THAT LOVES ANOTHER HAS FULFILLED THE LAW.
9, For this, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT KILL, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and IF THERE SHALL BE ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF.
10, Love works no ill to his neighbour: therefore LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.
Paul makes it very clear what he is talking about as well when he is talking about God's Law. It seems like Jesus, James and Paul all agree together what it is they are referring to when talking about God's Law. They are all referring to God's 10 commandments which includes the 4th commandment which is one of the ten (Exodus 20:1-17)
So now that God's Word shows us what it is referring to. No need to guess, what are talking about, God’s Law of Love is God's 10 commandments. It is only through Faith that works by love that anyone can walk in the Spirit which produces the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE because LOVE is the FUFULLING of God’s Law in those that walk by faith and not by sight.
SO ONCE AGAIN KNOWN SIN (BREAKING ANY OF GOD'S 10 COMMANDMENTS) WILL KEEP ALL WHO PRACTICE IT OUT OF GOD'S KINGDOM. This includes the 4th Commandment which is one of the 10 Commandments.
Everything else you are only repeating my friend has already been ansswered with ths scriptures that you have rejected.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Hebrews 10:26-27; 31)
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In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).
If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
I see so where is the scripture that says in Matthew 25 that Jesus is going to Judge the the people based on LOVE and not accoriding to God's Sabbath?
Please do not misunderstand this question, I believe everyone will be judged on wheather they LOVE or not. But your understanding on what the bible means to LOVE I think is different to mine. LOVE is the fulfilling of God's LAW in those who BELIEVE God's WORD.
Let's look at what it means to LOVE in God's Word.....
GODS LAW AND LOVE ARE ONE
You cannot separate God’s Law of love from the 10 commandments because they are connected to each other. There is no need for confusion here. God’s Word makes it very clear.
Let's have a look..........
What does Jesus say when he talk about the commandments. Jesus is quoting from Old testament scriptures of Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18.................
Matthew 22
36, Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37, Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38, This is the first and great commandment.
39, And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40, ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.
Let's get clearer..............
Matthew 19
16, And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17, And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: BUT IF YOU WILL ENTER INTO LIFE KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.
18, He saith unto him, WHICH? JESUS SAID, THOU SHALT NOT MURDER, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, HONOR YOU MOTHER AND FATHER AND THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF
20, The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21, Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. <Jesus showed him that he may have fulfilled His duty of love to his neighbor but not to God breaking commandment 1 and 2 loving riches more than God>
Well Jesus makes it very clear that what he is talking about it is the 10 commandments of God's Law.
What about James...............
James 2
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL KEEP THE WHOLE LAW AND YET OFFEND IN ONE POINT, HE SHALL BE GUILTY OF ALL.
11, FOR HE THAT SAID, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY SAID ALSO DO NOT KILL. NOW IF YOU DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY AND YOU KILL, YOU HAVE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF GOD'S LAW.
12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Well James makes it very clear what he is talking about when he talks about the Royal Law of love. He is talking about the 10 commandments. So Jesus and James both agree that they are talking about God's 10 commandments which also include the 4th commandment which is one of the ten.
What about Paul? He wrote a lot of books in God's Word.............
Romans 13
8, Owe no man any thing, but to LOVE ONE ANOTHER: for HE THAT LOVES ANOTHER HAS FULFILLED THE LAW.
9, For this, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT KILL, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and IF THERE SHALL BE ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF.
10, Love works no ill to his neighbour: therefore LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.
Paul makes it very clear what he is talking about as well when he is talking about God's Law. It seems like Jesus, James and Paul all agree together what it is they are referring to when talking about God's Law. They are all referring to God's 10 commandments which includes the 4th commandment which is one of the ten (Exodus 20:1-17)
So now that God's Word shows us what it is referring to. No need to guess, what are talking about, God’s Law of Love is God's 10 commandments. It is only through Faith that works by love that anyone can walk in the Spirit which produces the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE because LOVE is the FUFULLING of God’s Law in those that walk by faith and not by sight.
SO ONCE AGAIN KNOWN SIN (BREAKING ANY OF GOD'S 10 COMMANDMENTS) WILL KEEP ALL WHO PRACTICE IT OUT OF GOD'S KINGDOM. This includes the 4th Commandment which is one of the 10 Commandments.
Everything else you are only repeating my friend has already been ansswered with ths scriptures that you have rejected.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Hebrews 10:26-27; 31)
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In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).
If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
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I want to propose the idea that we end this endless fighting over this subject, we've brought out all the points, straight from the bible, Galatians 3, Genesis 2, Matthew 5, but as it goes now, you've only explained it away as "Were being legalistic" when the one who said these things, were from God, How is it that the Sabbath is only for jews, But we can quote from Pslam,Proverbs,Exodus or any part in the bible before the new testament? when everything from their doesn't apply to us, even when paul said Galatians 3 6Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Once you get rid of the Sabbath, everything else from the bible must fall apart, And that also can't be how God intended it 2 timothy 3: 10But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, 11Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 13But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. 14But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
If you reject one, all are worth nothing Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
This is why I say, Let's end this, We've brought out so much, Yet no one has been willing to listen as far as I know, this chat is meant for talking of Christ and hopefully bring other people to him, How can you do that with so much arguing going on? I'm getting tired of this, and I know LGF must be aswell, Let's not be a bad witness and discourge others because of our behavers, I'm not saying close the this Forum, maybe it will be a blessing to someone, idk maybe I'm wrong, Only God knows, but this has gone on long enough, let's be brothers in Christ, let's study for ourselves, we've brought out truth, maybe we don't have the whole story, so it's time to study, let's make it to the kingdom, Heaven will be a place of peace and order, if we can't get along here, Heaven will be Impossible for us. Remember LGF, you made this for the truth to get out, If that isn't being done, and no ones profiting from it, 1 Samuel 8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.
It's time to move on, and praise God, let's be brothers in Christ and talk on our love for him, and how he's done so much for us, Personally my Mother died not to long ago and through such a thing God brought me closer to him, and I started studying for myself, Let us not forget where God has brought us, and how we all need him.
So I'm going post this song once again, to bring us into harmony with God.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeJuc40VxDw
Godbless you and keep you.
26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Once you get rid of the Sabbath, everything else from the bible must fall apart, And that also can't be how God intended it 2 timothy 3: 10But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, 11Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 13But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. 14But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
If you reject one, all are worth nothing Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
This is why I say, Let's end this, We've brought out so much, Yet no one has been willing to listen as far as I know, this chat is meant for talking of Christ and hopefully bring other people to him, How can you do that with so much arguing going on? I'm getting tired of this, and I know LGF must be aswell, Let's not be a bad witness and discourge others because of our behavers, I'm not saying close the this Forum, maybe it will be a blessing to someone, idk maybe I'm wrong, Only God knows, but this has gone on long enough, let's be brothers in Christ, let's study for ourselves, we've brought out truth, maybe we don't have the whole story, so it's time to study, let's make it to the kingdom, Heaven will be a place of peace and order, if we can't get along here, Heaven will be Impossible for us. Remember LGF, you made this for the truth to get out, If that isn't being done, and no ones profiting from it, 1 Samuel 8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.
It's time to move on, and praise God, let's be brothers in Christ and talk on our love for him, and how he's done so much for us, Personally my Mother died not to long ago and through such a thing God brought me closer to him, and I started studying for myself, Let us not forget where God has brought us, and how we all need him.
So I'm going post this song once again, to bring us into harmony with God.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeJuc40VxDw
Godbless you and keep you.
I also say we should stop this endless arguing....it is of no benefit to anyone ! If people want to believe different and they are determined then we should walk AWAY from them...it's what scripture advices !
'Reason' with those who want to hear... but be firm and avoid strife....it can be a fine line but we should be able to DISCERN when enough is ENOUGH !
We who believe and obey God can not stop others to infiltrate our ranks but we can ignore their intent to spoil ! so let us be vigilant and not fall for their ungodly teaching as the fledgling church did at the beginning and were drawn away. Let us stand firm and sure on the Word, Will and Foundation of our God !
'Reason' with those who want to hear... but be firm and avoid strife....it can be a fine line but we should be able to DISCERN when enough is ENOUGH !
We who believe and obey God can not stop others to infiltrate our ranks but we can ignore their intent to spoil ! so let us be vigilant and not fall for their ungodly teaching as the fledgling church did at the beginning and were drawn away. Let us stand firm and sure on the Word, Will and Foundation of our God !
THE SWORD OF PEACE
As much as one would hope there will never be peace except as one BELIEVES and FOLLOWS the Word of Godbut this peace will not be in the Worldbut in him that calls you in LOVE to follow in LOVE...
Matt 10:34-36,
34, Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35, For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36, And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
Matt 10:24-25,
24, The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. 25, It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub,6 how much more shall they call them of his household?
Matt 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endurs to the end shall be saved.
Matt 24:9
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Mark 13:13
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Luke 21:17
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
John 15:18
If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
The big question is why?
John 7:5-7,
5, For neither did his brethren believe in him <Jesus speaking to unbelievers>. 6, Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is always ready. 7, The world cannot hate you; but me it hates, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.
John 17:14
I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
John 3:19-21,
19, And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20, For every one that does evil hates the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21, But he that does truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
God has his people in all the Churches and outside the Church . God is calling his people out from wherever they maybe so that they will all be together with one Shepard and one fold to worship him in Spirit and in truth (John 10:16; John 4:23-24).
The reason there is division and the world will hate God's true followers is because they are the disciples of Jesus and must speak the same Word's God gives them and they must testify to the world that their deeds are evil just as Jesus did (John 7:5-7).
Some will hear the call and others will rise up against it. As a result of sharing the truth God's followers will be hated by all nations just as they hated Jesus but this is the duty of LOVE for those who follow tthe God of LOVE (see Ezek 3:17-21)
As they persecuted the propets before us so they will persecute all who follow the Words of God but he that endures to the end the same shall be saved. God's sheep will hear His voice.
An interesting study.
God bless you
As much as one would hope there will never be peace except as one BELIEVES and FOLLOWS the Word of Godbut this peace will not be in the Worldbut in him that calls you in LOVE to follow in LOVE...
Matt 10:34-36,
34, Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35, For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36, And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
Matt 10:24-25,
24, The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. 25, It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub,6 how much more shall they call them of his household?
Matt 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endurs to the end shall be saved.
Matt 24:9
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Mark 13:13
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Luke 21:17
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
John 15:18
If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
The big question is why?
John 7:5-7,
5, For neither did his brethren believe in him <Jesus speaking to unbelievers>. 6, Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is always ready. 7, The world cannot hate you; but me it hates, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.
John 17:14
I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
John 3:19-21,
19, And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20, For every one that does evil hates the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21, But he that does truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
God has his people in all the Churches and outside the Church . God is calling his people out from wherever they maybe so that they will all be together with one Shepard and one fold to worship him in Spirit and in truth (John 10:16; John 4:23-24).
The reason there is division and the world will hate God's true followers is because they are the disciples of Jesus and must speak the same Word's God gives them and they must testify to the world that their deeds are evil just as Jesus did (John 7:5-7).
Some will hear the call and others will rise up against it. As a result of sharing the truth God's followers will be hated by all nations just as they hated Jesus but this is the duty of LOVE for those who follow tthe God of LOVE (see Ezek 3:17-21)
As they persecuted the propets before us so they will persecute all who follow the Words of God but he that endures to the end the same shall be saved. God's sheep will hear His voice.
An interesting study.
God bless you
He who sees, sees all. He opens the blind eyes to see and the deaf to hear. It is given to the blind to have eyes to see and the deaf to have ears to hear. The lame now walk while those saying they see do not see. Those hearing hear not and those walking walk not.
These are they that say they are whole and not like other men, but those that are sick seek him to heal their sickness. Many do not know this meaning.
He is calling all who have ears to hear and eyes to see. If you do not know that you are sick why would you need a physician?
Yet all are sick but many do not know it because they cannot see their way when the road is narrow when their lamp has gone out.
How sad, how sad, for those who choose not to hear or see the one who LOVES them and bids them come for all things are ready how sad for him and them when he bids you come but you cannot hear him, how sad how sad.
My dear friend, do you know the scriptures?
These are they that say they are whole and not like other men, but those that are sick seek him to heal their sickness. Many do not know this meaning.
He is calling all who have ears to hear and eyes to see. If you do not know that you are sick why would you need a physician?
Yet all are sick but many do not know it because they cannot see their way when the road is narrow when their lamp has gone out.
How sad, how sad, for those who choose not to hear or see the one who LOVES them and bids them come for all things are ready how sad for him and them when he bids you come but you cannot hear him, how sad how sad.
My dear friend, do you know the scriptures?
Jesus is the "Prince of Peace." The 'sword' is wielded not by those who follow Jesus, but by those who follow another. How the cults cherry-pick the verses that suit them and ignore the context. Jesus requires that we give Him our whole. He goes on to say: Whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. (Mat 10:37-38 ESV)
You know who will be standing in Judgement over all of us, and HE will be separating the sheep, those who follow HIM; from the goats who follow the traditions of the Pharisees in their Saturday Sabbath. If I were in sda, I would be quaking in fear, except I would be out of there quicker than a bullet leaves the gun.
You know who will be standing in Judgement over all of us, and HE will be separating the sheep, those who follow HIM; from the goats who follow the traditions of the Pharisees in their Saturday Sabbath. If I were in sda, I would be quaking in fear, except I would be out of there quicker than a bullet leaves the gun.
It is quite pointless to discuss anything with people who do not know or follow the TRUE CHRIST ...the ONE who can heal them of their Disabilities that keep them in ignorance of Truth !
What does a deaf, blind and lame person know worth knowing except that he/she is in need of help ?
Their priority should be focused on being HEALED so they then can become useful in life.
Why are people still so sick they can not function as they should ?
They are following false christs who can not help them...who have no intention of helping anyone !
Mat 24v4,5,11
There is only ONE TRUE CHRIST and HE IS LORD OF THE SABBATH ! Until people turn to HIM and are healed they will die in their sins.
What does a deaf, blind and lame person know worth knowing except that he/she is in need of help ?
Their priority should be focused on being HEALED so they then can become useful in life.
Why are people still so sick they can not function as they should ?
They are following false christs who can not help them...who have no intention of helping anyone !
Mat 24v4,5,11
There is only ONE TRUE CHRIST and HE IS LORD OF THE SABBATH ! Until people turn to HIM and are healed they will die in their sins.
GOD IS LOVE AND HE WHO DOES NOT LOVE DOES NOT KNOW GOD...
Hebrew 10:27-28
26, For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Hebrews 6:4-8
4, For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. 7, For the earth which drinks in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and brings forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: 8, But that which bears thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
1 John 3:3-10
3, And every man that hath this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.4, Whosoever commits sin transgress also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5, And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6, Whosoever abides in him sins not: whosoever sins hath not seen him, neither known him. 7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8, He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9, Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.
Receiving not the love of the truth....
Those that perish will not enter the Kingdom because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye love me, keep my commandments.
God is love and will always love us but only those that keep his commandments through faith in his Word that works by love abide in his love...
John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 15:10,
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
Only a remnant will know the love of God and be saved.....
Matthew 22:14
For many are called, but few are chosen.
Matthew 7:13-23
13, Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14, Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leads unto life, and few there be that find it. 15, Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16, Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17, Even so every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit. 18, A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19, Every tree that brings not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20, Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21, Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22, Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23, And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity <sin>.
Romans 11:3-5
3, Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. 4, But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5, Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Revelations 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Revelations 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
This includes the 7th Day Sabbath which is one of the 10 (Exodus 20:8-11; Mark 2:27-28; James 2:8-12; Hebrews 4:1-12)
God's love for those that follow him....
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Time to seek him. Time to get ready. God's Sheep hear his voice........
Act 17:30
At times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commands all men every where to repent.
Isaiah 55:6-9
6, Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: 7, Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. 8, For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. 9, For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
With an everlasting love have I loved you and with loving kindness have I drawn you. We only have today. Tomorrow is only a gift because God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance and be saved.
Jeremiah 29:13
And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.
Love is the fulfilling of God's Law and the only way it can be obeying and it the reason why
Jesus says; I know you that you do not have the love of God in you. Truly, truly, I say unto you except a man be born again he cannot enter into the Kingdom of Heaven...
The Jewish Lawyers knew that love was connected to the 10 commandments (Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18)...
Luke 11:25-28
25, And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26, He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27, And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself. 28, And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
Jesus connects the two great commandments to the Law and the prophets...
Matthew 22:36-40
36, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37, Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38, This is the first and great commandment. 39, And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 40, On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Paul connects love to the great commandments in God's Law....
Romans 13:8-10
8, Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loves another hath fulfilled the law.
9, For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 10, Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Matthew 19:16-19
16, And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17, And he said unto him, Why call thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18, He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19, Honor thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
James connects love to obeying God's Law.....
James 2:8-12
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well: 9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Love and obedience to God's Law is a sign that someone is born again and knows God......
1 John 4:7
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loves is born of God, and knows God.
1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
If we sin and say we know God we are not born again and do not know God....
1 John 3:6-10
Whosoever abides in him sins not: whosoever sins hath not seen him, neither known him. 7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8, He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9, Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.
1 John 2:2-4
3, And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4, He that saith, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
This includes God's 4th commandment the 7th Day Sabbath which is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11)
In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent. For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. Faith without works is dead.
Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornication's, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. These are the things which defile a man. Truly, truly I say unto you unless a man is born again he can in no way enter into the Kingdom of Heaven....
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In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).
If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
Hebrew 10:27-28
26, For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Hebrews 6:4-8
4, For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. 7, For the earth which drinks in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and brings forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: 8, But that which bears thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
1 John 3:3-10
3, And every man that hath this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.4, Whosoever commits sin transgress also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5, And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6, Whosoever abides in him sins not: whosoever sins hath not seen him, neither known him. 7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8, He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9, Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.
Receiving not the love of the truth....
Those that perish will not enter the Kingdom because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye love me, keep my commandments.
God is love and will always love us but only those that keep his commandments through faith in his Word that works by love abide in his love...
John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 15:10,
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
Only a remnant will know the love of God and be saved.....
Matthew 22:14
For many are called, but few are chosen.
Matthew 7:13-23
13, Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14, Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leads unto life, and few there be that find it. 15, Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16, Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17, Even so every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit. 18, A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19, Every tree that brings not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20, Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21, Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22, Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23, And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity <sin>.
Romans 11:3-5
3, Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. 4, But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5, Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Revelations 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Revelations 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
This includes the 7th Day Sabbath which is one of the 10 (Exodus 20:8-11; Mark 2:27-28; James 2:8-12; Hebrews 4:1-12)
God's love for those that follow him....
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Time to seek him. Time to get ready. God's Sheep hear his voice........
Act 17:30
At times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commands all men every where to repent.
Isaiah 55:6-9
6, Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: 7, Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. 8, For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. 9, For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
With an everlasting love have I loved you and with loving kindness have I drawn you. We only have today. Tomorrow is only a gift because God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance and be saved.
Jeremiah 29:13
And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.
Love is the fulfilling of God's Law and the only way it can be obeying and it the reason why
Jesus says; I know you that you do not have the love of God in you. Truly, truly, I say unto you except a man be born again he cannot enter into the Kingdom of Heaven...
The Jewish Lawyers knew that love was connected to the 10 commandments (Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18)...
Luke 11:25-28
25, And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26, He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27, And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself. 28, And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
Jesus connects the two great commandments to the Law and the prophets...
Matthew 22:36-40
36, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37, Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38, This is the first and great commandment. 39, And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 40, On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Paul connects love to the great commandments in God's Law....
Romans 13:8-10
8, Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loves another hath fulfilled the law.
9, For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 10, Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Matthew 19:16-19
16, And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17, And he said unto him, Why call thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18, He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19, Honor thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
James connects love to obeying God's Law.....
James 2:8-12
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well: 9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Love and obedience to God's Law is a sign that someone is born again and knows God......
1 John 4:7
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loves is born of God, and knows God.
1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
If we sin and say we know God we are not born again and do not know God....
1 John 3:6-10
Whosoever abides in him sins not: whosoever sins hath not seen him, neither known him. 7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8, He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9, Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.
1 John 2:2-4
3, And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4, He that saith, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
This includes God's 4th commandment the 7th Day Sabbath which is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11)
In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent. For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. Faith without works is dead.
Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornication's, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. These are the things which defile a man. Truly, truly I say unto you unless a man is born again he can in no way enter into the Kingdom of Heaven....
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In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30-31).
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).
If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
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Matthew 11:28-29
[FONT="]28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.[/FONT]
[FONT="]29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Peter 3:17-18[/FONT]
[FONT="]17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.[/FONT]
[FONT="]18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Galatians 3:10-12
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[FONT="]10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.[/FONT]
[FONT="]11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.[/FONT]
[FONT="]12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Hebrews 7:18-19
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[FONT="]18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.[/FONT]
[FONT="]19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Acts 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
2 Corinthians 3:14-15
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[FONT="]14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.[/FONT]
[FONT="]15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
This argument has been going on for thousands of years. Paul explains, over and over, that the law has no power to help or change us. Peter tells us to not be led away with the error of the wicked, but to grow in the grace and the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.
The blind don't know they're blind. They will even argue with the original Apostles.
Romans 10:2-4
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[FONT="]2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.[/FONT]
[FONT="]3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.[/FONT]
[FONT="]4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
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[FONT="]28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.[/FONT]
[FONT="]29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Peter 3:17-18[/FONT]
[FONT="]17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.[/FONT]
[FONT="]18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Galatians 3:10-12
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[FONT="]10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.[/FONT]
[FONT="]11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.[/FONT]
[FONT="]12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Hebrews 7:18-19
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[FONT="]18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.[/FONT]
[FONT="]19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Acts 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
2 Corinthians 3:14-15
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[FONT="]14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.[/FONT]
[FONT="]15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
This argument has been going on for thousands of years. Paul explains, over and over, that the law has no power to help or change us. Peter tells us to not be led away with the error of the wicked, but to grow in the grace and the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.
The blind don't know they're blind. They will even argue with the original Apostles.
Romans 10:2-4
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[FONT="]2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.[/FONT]
[FONT="]3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.[/FONT]
[FONT="]4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
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