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Kenneth Hagin is the grandfather of the WOF movement. He and the others who made its heterodox teachings popular taught that if you aren't prosperous then you aren't believing for it and giving them enough money. Yet they were the only ones getting rich. Did you know he died of the same illness that he claims he was healed from.
Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth. My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass: For the LORD our GOD will circumcise our hearts and the hearts of our seed. For righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ (Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law. In other words the Word; the Divine utterances) down from above
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law. In other words the Word; the Divine utterances) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (the Divine utterances; Christ the Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law.) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: (that thou mayest do it) that is, the word of faith, which we preach. And that is the Movement to which we move through; Christ's!
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law. In other words the Word; the Divine utterances) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (the Divine utterances; Christ the Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law.) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: (that thou mayest do it) that is, the word of faith, which we preach. And that is the Movement to which we move through; Christ's!
That which is stated in Romans 10:6-8 was first prophesied in Deut. 30;6,10-14. It was GOD’s intention for us to receive Christ, that He work through us since the time of Moses if not before.
The statutes and commandments contained in the Book of the Law (Christ; the Word) were to be in our hearts. To be who we are! ) that is, the word of faith movement which we preach. That is the GOSPEL!
The statutes and commandments contained in the Book of the Law (Christ; the Word) were to be in our hearts. To be who we are! ) that is, the word of faith movement which we preach. That is the GOSPEL!
Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth. My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass: For the LORD our GOD will circumcise our hearts and the hearts of our seed. For righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ (Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law. In other words the Word; the Divine utterances) down from above Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law. In other words the Word; the Divine utterances) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (the Divine utterances; Christ the Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law.) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: (that thou mayest do it) that is, the word of faith, which we preach. And that is the Movement to which we move through; Christ's!
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law. In other words the Word; the Divine utterances) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (the Divine utterances; Christ the Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law.) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: (that thou mayest do it) that is, the word of faith, which we preach. And that is the Movement to which we move through; Christ's!
That which is stated in Romans 10:6-8 was first prophesied in Deut. 30;6,10-14. It was GOD’s intention for us to receive Christ, that He work through us since the time of Moses if not before.
The statutes and commandments contained in the Book of the Law (Christ; the Word) were to be in our hearts. To be who we are! ) that is, the word of faith movement which we preach. That is the GOSPEL!
The statutes and commandments contained in the Book of the Law (Christ; the Word) were to be in our hearts. To be who we are! ) that is, the word of faith movement which we preach. That is the GOSPEL!
It is not my assertion.
Our FATHER GOD makes the connection through the Spirit.
GOD originally gave this to Moses to share. When Moses shared it he shared it in the present tense. Paul through GOD reminds his readers of this text. These readers would have been the Jews from the dispersion and the Gentile converts in Rome.
Divine utterances was posted in the post you responded to not divine utterances. This is due to respect to the FATHER and HIS Christ.
Divine utterances is how the Spirit's use of the word "Word' should be understood in verse eight.
This also should be capitalized because it is referencing to Christ. It is He; the Word that comes into our hearts and mouths that we do it. This is the Faith in which we stand through.
Here is how the word "word" is defined in Thayers' Lexicon.
Here is the text in verse 10:6-8 with minimal commentary.
But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ (Word) down from above Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Word) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (Christ) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
(Rom 10:6-8 KJV)
As was said this is a quote from Deut. 30.The people reading Romans would have known this and would have looked it up because at the time it was part of the Bible they had. Here is how it is given.
If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul. For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.
(Deu 30:10-14 KJV)
This was and is Holy Scripture. They would have cross reference the Letter and the Holy Writ and would have concluded that:
Our FATHER GOD makes the connection through the Spirit.
GOD originally gave this to Moses to share. When Moses shared it he shared it in the present tense. Paul through GOD reminds his readers of this text. These readers would have been the Jews from the dispersion and the Gentile converts in Rome.
Divine utterances was posted in the post you responded to not divine utterances. This is due to respect to the FATHER and HIS Christ.
Divine utterances is how the Spirit's use of the word "Word' should be understood in verse eight.
This also should be capitalized because it is referencing to Christ. It is He; the Word that comes into our hearts and mouths that we do it. This is the Faith in which we stand through.
Here is how the word "word" is defined in Thayers' Lexicon.
- Original: ῥῆμα
- Transliteration: Rhema
- Phonetic: hray'-mah
- Definition:
1. that which is or has been uttered by the living voice, thing spoken, word
a. any sound produced by the voice and having definite meaning
b. speech, discourse
1. what one has said
c. a series of words joined together into a sentence (a declaration of one's mind made in words)
1. an utterance
2. a saying of any sort as a message, a narrative 1c
d. concerning some occurrence
2. subject matter of speech, thing spoken of
a. so far forth as it is a matter of narration
b. so far as it is a matter of command
c. a matter of dispute, case at law
- Transliteration: Rhema
- Phonetic: hray'-mah
- Definition:
1. that which is or has been uttered by the living voice, thing spoken, word
a. any sound produced by the voice and having definite meaning
b. speech, discourse
1. what one has said
c. a series of words joined together into a sentence (a declaration of one's mind made in words)
1. an utterance
2. a saying of any sort as a message, a narrative 1c
d. concerning some occurrence
2. subject matter of speech, thing spoken of
a. so far forth as it is a matter of narration
b. so far as it is a matter of command
c. a matter of dispute, case at law
Here is the text in verse 10:6-8 with minimal commentary.
But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ (Word) down from above
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Word) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (Christ) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;(Rom 10:6-8 KJV)
As was said this is a quote from Deut. 30.The people reading Romans would have known this and would have looked it up because at the time it was part of the Bible they had. Here is how it is given.
If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul. For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.
(Deu 30:10-14 KJV)
This was and is Holy Scripture. They would have cross reference the Letter and the Holy Writ and would have concluded that:
the LORD our GOD will circumcise our hearts and the hearts of our seed. For righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ (Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law. In other words the Word; the Divine utterances) down from above Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law. In other words the Word; the Divine utterances) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (the Divine utterances; Christ the Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law.) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: (that thou mayest do it) that is the word of faith, which we preach. And that my friend is the Faith movement in which we preach. And that is the Gospel!
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law. In other words the Word; the Divine utterances) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (the Divine utterances; Christ the Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law.) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: (that thou mayest do it) that is the word of faith, which we preach. And that my friend is the Faith movement in which we preach. And that is the Gospel!
It is not my assertion.
Our FATHER GOD makes the connection through the Spirit.
GOD originally gave this to Moses to share. When Moses shared it he shared it in the present tense. Paul through GOD reminds his readers of this text. These readers would have been the Jews from the dispersion and the Gentile converts in Rome.
Divine utterances was posted in the post you responded to not divine utterances. This is due to respect to the FATHER and HIS Christ.
Divine utterances is how the Spirit's use of the word "Word' should be understood in verse eight.
This also should be capitalized because it is referencing to Christ. It is He; the Word that comes into our hearts and mouths that we do it. This is the Faith in which we stand through.
Here is how the word "word" is defined in Thayers' Lexicon.
Here is the text in verse 10:6-8 with minimal commentary.
But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ (Word) down from above Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Word) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (Christ) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
(Rom 10:6-8 KJV)
As was said this is a quote from Deut. 30.The people reading Romans would have known this and would have looked it up because at the time it was part of the Bible they had. Here is how it is given.
If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul. For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.
(Deu 30:10-14 KJV)
This was and is Holy Scripture. They would have cross reference the Letter and the Holy Writ and would have concluded that:
Our FATHER GOD makes the connection through the Spirit.
GOD originally gave this to Moses to share. When Moses shared it he shared it in the present tense. Paul through GOD reminds his readers of this text. These readers would have been the Jews from the dispersion and the Gentile converts in Rome.
Divine utterances was posted in the post you responded to not divine utterances. This is due to respect to the FATHER and HIS Christ.
Divine utterances is how the Spirit's use of the word "Word' should be understood in verse eight.
This also should be capitalized because it is referencing to Christ. It is He; the Word that comes into our hearts and mouths that we do it. This is the Faith in which we stand through.
Here is how the word "word" is defined in Thayers' Lexicon.
- Original: ῥῆμα
- Transliteration: Rhema
- Phonetic: hray'-mah
- Definition:
1. that which is or has been uttered by the living voice, thing spoken, word
a. any sound produced by the voice and having definite meaning
b. speech, discourse
1. what one has said
c. a series of words joined together into a sentence (a declaration of one's mind made in words)
1. an utterance
2. a saying of any sort as a message, a narrative 1c
d. concerning some occurrence
2. subject matter of speech, thing spoken of
a. so far forth as it is a matter of narration
b. so far as it is a matter of command
c. a matter of dispute, case at law
- Transliteration: Rhema
- Phonetic: hray'-mah
- Definition:
1. that which is or has been uttered by the living voice, thing spoken, word
a. any sound produced by the voice and having definite meaning
b. speech, discourse
1. what one has said
c. a series of words joined together into a sentence (a declaration of one's mind made in words)
1. an utterance
2. a saying of any sort as a message, a narrative 1c
d. concerning some occurrence
2. subject matter of speech, thing spoken of
a. so far forth as it is a matter of narration
b. so far as it is a matter of command
c. a matter of dispute, case at law
Here is the text in verse 10:6-8 with minimal commentary.
But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ (Word) down from above
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Word) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (Christ) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;(Rom 10:6-8 KJV)
As was said this is a quote from Deut. 30.The people reading Romans would have known this and would have looked it up because at the time it was part of the Bible they had. Here is how it is given.
If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul. For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.
(Deu 30:10-14 KJV)
This was and is Holy Scripture. They would have cross reference the Letter and the Holy Writ and would have concluded that:
the LORD our GOD will circumcise our hearts and the hearts of our seed. For righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ (Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law. In other words the Word; the Divine utterances) down from above Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law. In other words the Word; the Divine utterances) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (the Divine utterances; Christ the Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law.) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: (that thou mayest do it) that is the word of faith, which we preach. And that my friend is the Faith movement in which we preach. And that is the Gospel!
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law. In other words the Word; the Divine utterances) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (the Divine utterances; Christ the Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law.) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: (that thou mayest do it) that is the word of faith, which we preach. And that my friend is the Faith movement in which we preach. And that is the Gospel!
Still discussing this?
Hmm...........oh, are the Guests from that Nashville based website still here? (just wondering )
BTW: (not that folks care about Scripture........but)
1 Corinthians 10:24) Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth.
My thoughts are:
A carnal Christian seeks their own well being
A spiritual Christian seeks the well being of others
A carnal Christian seeks the things of the earth
A spiritual Christian seeks the things of heaven
A carnal Christian prays for their desires
A spiritual Christian prays for their needs
A carnal Christian is saved
A spiritual Christian is saved, and sanctified by the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit, who will, btw, make CLEAR the mistaken theology of "I desire"
Hmm...........oh, are the Guests from that Nashville based website still here? (just wondering
)BTW: (not that folks care about Scripture........but)
1 Corinthians 10:24) Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth.
My thoughts are:
A carnal Christian seeks their own well being
A spiritual Christian seeks the well being of others
A carnal Christian seeks the things of the earth
A spiritual Christian seeks the things of heaven
A carnal Christian prays for their desires
A spiritual Christian prays for their needs
A carnal Christian is saved
A spiritual Christian is saved, and sanctified by the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit, who will, btw, make CLEAR the mistaken theology of "I desire"
“There is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,” Romans 8:1
Your entire post is one of judging and condemnation. Oh and pompous arrogance. Why?
Because you are judging others and condemning them because they do not have your “faith.” And I use the term loosely. You are implying that anyone who does not have “faith” is not saved, and you have not posted a single verse to support your assertions. Pompous and arrogant, because somehow you, with a “healthy” body naturally, have more faith than others. You have found belief in your own faith. Not once do you mention Jesus Christ, and his sacrifice on the cross for our sins.
The WoF gospel is simply “all about me.” It is not “all about God.” It is all about ME drumming up MY faith, so I can be healed, do well, etc etc. Complete denial of the amazing work, God does in and through suffering.
We do not drum up or find our own faith. God gives us faith - it is a gift!
“For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 it is not from works, so that no one can boast.” Eph. 2:8-9[FONT="]
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God gives us exactly the amount of faith we need. We do not need to pretend we have more, drum it up, like some pagan ritual, deny what we are suffering!
“For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned.” Romans 12:3
WoF is the “out of context” gospel. It takes 1/4 of a verse, and makes a doctrine that overrides everything else in the Bible. (Isa. 53:4d by name!)
I happen to be very sick. I have been for 20 years. At the beginning of that time, all my WoF friends were judging and condemning me because I had not been healed of a serious genetic auto-immune disease. They all prayed for me, but their faith wasn’t enough. The woman who died of cancer because she refused treatment had “faith.” She had been a real lover of Jesus before she fell into the WoF trap. Then, she converted to the “all about me” gospel, and died.
I was not healed, because it was not God’s will! But oh, did God transform my character. My measure of faith was to suffer and grow. To become more like Christ, and less like the old person I had been. My spiritual growth had virtually died, when I was judged and condemned by the WoF people for not being healed, I turned my back on God. I stopped reading my Bible, going to church and praying. That is the rotten fruit of the WoF movement.
After 2 years of this, God told me to read 5 Psalms a day. It took a while before I obeyed, and then I spent 2 years reading nothing but 5 Psalms a day. God ministered to me in unbelieveable ways! He showed me all the hurting, damaged people, who kept their faith in God, no matter what went on. He showed me people who were able to praise God in spite of what they were going through. That is the Bible! Not out of context eisegetical verse reading!
And then God called me to seminary, and renewed my spirit, even as he led me to doctors who gave me better medicine so I could heal. And God has tested me. I had another bad med failure 3 years ago. Just coming out of that, now. But this time, instead of turning my face to the wall, I clung to Jesus. I clung to my Lord and Saviour. Because the Christian walk is about Jesus not about me.
Since you obviously did not read the OP to the link I posted with all the Scriptures AGAINST WoF, I will post it for you below. My hope is that when the day comes, when you are sick unto death, and “your” faith is not keeping you alive forever, you will remember the verses I have posted.
But mostly, that you will cling to Jesus and glorify him, in spite of the wind, the floods, the fire and sickness and death. When Jesus returns, that will alll be gone. There is NO promise in the Bible to have a perfect life now. I pray you will find God, instead of this false, “all about me” gospel.
It is not my assertion.
Our FATHER GOD makes the connection through the Spirit.
GOD originally gave this to Moses to share. When Moses shared it he shared it in the present tense. Paul through GOD reminds his readers of this text. These readers would have been the Jews from the dispersion and the Gentile converts in Rome.
Divine utterances was posted in the post you responded to not divine utterances. This is due to respect to the FATHER and HIS Christ.
Divine utterances is how the Spirit's use of the word "Word' should be understood in verse eight.
This also should be capitalized because it is referencing to Christ. It is He; the Word that comes into our hearts and mouths that we do it. This is the Faith in which we stand through.
Here is how the word "word" is defined in Thayers' Lexicon.
Here is the text in verse 10:6-8 with minimal commentary.
But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ (Word) down from above Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Word) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (Christ) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
(Rom 10:6-8 KJV)
As was said this is a quote from Deut. 30.The people reading Romans would have known this and would have looked it up because at the time it was part of the Bible they had. Here is how it is given.
If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul. For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.
(Deu 30:10-14 KJV)
This was and is Holy Scripture. They would have cross reference the Letter and the Holy Writ and would have concluded that:
Our FATHER GOD makes the connection through the Spirit.
GOD originally gave this to Moses to share. When Moses shared it he shared it in the present tense. Paul through GOD reminds his readers of this text. These readers would have been the Jews from the dispersion and the Gentile converts in Rome.
Divine utterances was posted in the post you responded to not divine utterances. This is due to respect to the FATHER and HIS Christ.
Divine utterances is how the Spirit's use of the word "Word' should be understood in verse eight.
This also should be capitalized because it is referencing to Christ. It is He; the Word that comes into our hearts and mouths that we do it. This is the Faith in which we stand through.
Here is how the word "word" is defined in Thayers' Lexicon.
- Original: ῥῆμα
- Transliteration: Rhema
- Phonetic: hray'-mah
- Definition:
1. that which is or has been uttered by the living voice, thing spoken, word
a. any sound produced by the voice and having definite meaning
b. speech, discourse
1. what one has said
c. a series of words joined together into a sentence (a declaration of one's mind made in words)
1. an utterance
2. a saying of any sort as a message, a narrative 1c
d. concerning some occurrence
2. subject matter of speech, thing spoken of
a. so far forth as it is a matter of narration
b. so far as it is a matter of command
c. a matter of dispute, case at law
- Transliteration: Rhema
- Phonetic: hray'-mah
- Definition:
1. that which is or has been uttered by the living voice, thing spoken, word
a. any sound produced by the voice and having definite meaning
b. speech, discourse
1. what one has said
c. a series of words joined together into a sentence (a declaration of one's mind made in words)
1. an utterance
2. a saying of any sort as a message, a narrative 1c
d. concerning some occurrence
2. subject matter of speech, thing spoken of
a. so far forth as it is a matter of narration
b. so far as it is a matter of command
c. a matter of dispute, case at law
Here is the text in verse 10:6-8 with minimal commentary.
But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ (Word) down from above
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Word) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (Christ) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;(Rom 10:6-8 KJV)
As was said this is a quote from Deut. 30.The people reading Romans would have known this and would have looked it up because at the time it was part of the Bible they had. Here is how it is given.
If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul. For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.
(Deu 30:10-14 KJV)
This was and is Holy Scripture. They would have cross reference the Letter and the Holy Writ and would have concluded that:
the LORD our GOD will circumcise our hearts and the hearts of our seed. For righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ (Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law. In other words the Word; the Divine utterances) down from above Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law. In other words the Word; the Divine utterances) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (the Divine utterances; Christ the Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law.) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: (that thou mayest do it) that is the word of faith, which we preach. And that my friend is the Faith movement in which we preach. And that is the Gospel!
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law. In other words the Word; the Divine utterances) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (the Divine utterances; Christ the Anointed; GOD's commands and statutes written in the Book of the Law.) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: (that thou mayest do it) that is the word of faith, which we preach. And that my friend is the Faith movement in which we preach. And that is the Gospel!The Word from His mouth is the saber sword.
Have you seen this lightbearer?
I think I saw the saber sword in the book of Revelations. Can't remember where I saw knife, but it's not defined this for each time it's written.
I love word studies!
My point...I can see your point with capitalizing. It makes a distinction.
I ask you sir, what does Hagin's death have to do with the price of beans? To put it another way, what does his death have to do with what is written?
What is sad is how you gloat over HOW he died, as though it was a good thing and how foolish it was for him to believe for his own healing, as though we shouldn't be so stupid to believe the same way.
Many people got healed and delivered through his ministry.
By the way, how many healings and deliverances takes place in your church?
I thought as much.
What is sad is how you gloat over HOW he died, as though it was a good thing and how foolish it was for him to believe for his own healing, as though we shouldn't be so stupid to believe the same way.
Many people got healed and delivered through his ministry.
By the way, how many healings and deliverances takes place in your church?
I thought as much.