GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

[Grandpa]

Grandpa,
re: "Posthuman was talking about the 10 commandments and the rest of the Mosaic law."

How do you know for absolute certain that the so called "10 commandments" weren't included in the commandments of Genesis 26:5?

Abraham wasn't perfect according to the flesh. But he was counted righteous because of his faith.

I suppose it must be because of all the instruction and explanation in the bible showing that the law (10 commandments) doesn't make a person right before God that it couldn't be the same commandments given in Gen 26 as in Ex 20.

See Romans 9:31-33 for starters

 

[Jackson123]

You are trying to make 'Sabbath-keepers responsible' for what NON sabbath keepers DO !

Are we not EACH to 'work out our OWN salvation'....? if people CHOOSE to work on Sabbath they are responsible for their own action and they will work WHETHER or NOT we use their services....so no, we are not making them work by using them.
You also forget that we can do many good works on the Sabbath NOW....so don't compare 'Sabbath-observance today with that in the OT....you make a big mistake and consequently a big MISjudgement !!!

you do not want us compare sabbath observance today with that in the OT? What is the different?

are you cook in sabbath? A member of sabbath observance was pay me to drive her to go to church oN sabbath is that sin to make work in sabbath?

 

[gb9]

it could mean a symbol for sin. but since Moses was re-reading the law before Israel entered cannan , I tend to think it has straightforward meaning.

you certainly do a lot of assuming, you assume that God gave Abram the 10 Commands ( Scripture does not say so ), you assume that the thief on the Cross already knew Christ and had confessed his sins and asks for forgiveness ( Scripture does not say so), you think gentiles were put under the Law ( Scripture says the opposite).

what you do is a tactic- you want us to mistrust Scripture, doubt what we know, and by into your cult propaganda. does not work on those of us that have read the Bible many times through.

this is a new world order thing- order out of chaos. nice try, but I see right through you. i'll start calling you assumption man. that is what you do best.

 

[Studyman]

No, you are completely wrong.

Once you come to Christ you are no longer under law. If you start working at the law in your own understanding then you have fallen from Grace, if you ever were under grace to begin with.

Matt. 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Heb. 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

My problem I have with your religion is that I must ignore so many scriptures in order to follow it, and then miss-represent many more. Coming to Jesus means more than lip service, and being under the law means being dead, not "loving God with all my heart".

A person is much more likely to not "shoplift" if they are under grace and understand what Christ does for them.

But if they are relying on their own understanding and their own strength then they are falling short in all their efforts.

Again, I don't believe it is impossible for me to stop stealing as my own choice. You can say it is impossible for you to "stop shoplifting" unless Jesus gives you superpowers. But the Bible doesn't support this preaching.

Romans 9:31-32
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

I know you don't believe much of the Bible, so you can't understand the difference between the "Law of Faith" and the "Law of Works".

Rom. 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

To promote your ancient religious traditions you preach that there is no difference between the Pharisees version of the Levitical Priesthood "works of the Law" for remission of sins, and the First and Greatest Commandment on which all the Bible hangs on. (Not destroyed by as you preach)

So therefore, because you choose to reject God's Word, you don't understand that the Pharisees depended on their version of animal sacrifices and Ceremonies used in the "Law of works" for remission of sins, instead of depending on the selfless sacrifice of their Messiah prophesied in the God's Word that they also rejected..

Several have tried to show you through God's Words, but if you don't believe in them, how can that help you. So I'm not going to waste my time showing you what the "works of the Law" is that Paul is talking about again.

What exactly do you think you need to be obedient to in order to be righteous? Regarding Romans 6:14-18...

Rom. 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law,(Dead) but under grace.(Alive)

15 What then? shall we sin,(Transgress God's Commandments) because we are not under the law, (dead) but under grace? (Alive) God forbid.

16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

You and I are both obedient to something. either our own righteousness, or the righteousness of God. Your own righteousness is sin, a filthy rag, your works. But God's Righteousness is perfect, Just, Holy and Good.

God's Righteousness is His Instructions, His Laws that He created for us, His Word. WE can either trust God (Have Faith) enough to follow His instructions, His Sayings, His Word, or we don't trust God and follow our own religious traditions like the Pharisees did.

I believe we should trust in God and His Instruction over the words and traditions of the Pope or Benny Hinn or Jack VanEmpe.

It's certainly not obedience to any law that is going to make you that way. So then what else could it possibly be??

You are following laws every day GP. You have religious works and traditions every day. You have your High Days, your Sabbaths, your religious traditions. You can not deny this. To say you have Faith without works is foolish. The question I ask myself is, "whose works are they. Did Jesus create and instruct them, or did some man.

I am truly a maggot turd no doubt. And certainly do not deserve what Jesus did for me. But to reject Him and His instructions is not the way to "glorify" Him no matter what you preach.

22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

So according to your doctrines and religious traditions, YES, I am wrong. But according to the "Saying's" of Jesus, both as my Messiah and as the creator God of the Bible, I am not wrong. And like Peter said.

Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

 

[Studyman]

it could mean a symbol for sin. but since Moses was re-reading the law before Israel entered cannan , I tend to think it has straightforward meaning.

you certainly do a lot of assuming, you assume that God gave Abram the 10 Commands ( Scripture does not say so ), you assume that the thief on the Cross already knew Christ and had confessed his sins and asks for forgiveness ( Scripture does not say so), you think gentiles were put under the Law ( Scripture says the opposite).

what you do is a tactic- you want us to mistrust Scripture, doubt what we know, and by into your cult propaganda. does not work on those of us that have read the Bible many times through.

this is a new world order thing- order out of chaos. nice try, but I see right through you. i'll start calling you assumption man. that is what you do best.

Actually, I trust the scriptures that you reject.

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

You assume God gave Abraham's Children different Laws than He gave to Abraham. Other than the LP, there is no scriptural support to justify your preaching. To do this you must erase more of God's Word which you gladly do.


Mal. 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

So I don't assume, I trust the God of the Bible over your words.

you assume that the thief on the Cross already knew Christ and had confessed his sins and asks for forgiveness

Luke 13:3
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

I don't assume Jesus is a respecter of persons, you do because you don't trust in God's Words and have created your own religion as did the Pharisees.

you think gentiles were put under the Law

Under the law means "dead", so I don't think Jesus instructed the Gentiles to be dead, but to be alive.

Rom. 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

12 For as many as have sinned without law (Gentiles) shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law(Jews) shall be judged by the law;
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

chaos is your preaching that Jesus created instructions for men, and then rejected man for following His instructions.

 

[gb9]

Actually, I trust the scriptures that you reject.

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

You assume God gave Abraham's Children different Laws than He gave to Abraham. Other than the LP, there is no scriptural support to justify your preaching. To do this you must erase more of God's Word which you gladly do.


Mal. 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

So I don't assume, I trust the God of the Bible over your words.



Luke 13:3
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

I don't assume Jesus is a respecter of persons, you do because you don't trust in God's Words and have created your own religion as did the Pharisees.



Under the law means "dead", so I don't think Jesus instructed the Gentiles to be dead, but to be alive.

Rom. 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

12 For as many as have sinned without law (Gentiles) shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law(Jews) shall be judged by the law;
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

chaos is your preaching that Jesus created instructions for men, and then rejected man for following His instructions.

so, you quote Romans 2. well if you keep reading the letter, in chapter 3, Paul goes on to say that no one will be justified in God's sight by the works of the Law. and that God has revealed His righteousness apart from the Law, and the righteousness comes through faith in Christ to all those who believe.

so, while you just pluck out verses and write your opinion and commentary, I try to respectfully and straightly handle the Word. because I fear God, and I dare not add or take away from the Word.

that is why I refuse to isolate verses and build theology around them. I recognize that Romans is a letter, and should be read as such, not chopped into pieces and my own commentary written around them.

 

[valiant]

Jackson I see you are still living under the civil laws of Israel in the Old Covenant. We have a NEW Covenant now my friend and your not living in Israel are you?

LOL the pot calling the kettle black

 

[Studyman]

so, you quote Romans 2. well if you keep reading the letter, in chapter 3, Paul goes on to say that no one will be justified in God's sight by the works of the Law. and that God has revealed His righteousness apart from the Law, and the righteousness comes through faith in Christ to all those who believe.

so, while you just pluck out verses and write your opinion and commentary, I try to respectfully and straightly handle the Word. because I fear God, and I dare not add or take away from the Word.

that is why I refuse to isolate verses and build theology around them. I recognize that Romans is a letter, and should be read as such, not chopped into pieces and my own commentary written around them.

Rom. 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

Paul says there is a "Law of Works" and a "Law of Faith".


Can you explain the difference since you don't build your religion around isolated scriptures?

 

[gb9]

you repeat to me what I said about not building theology around isolated Scripture, then you want me to do commentary on isolated Scripture.

how about you explain it? then we'll go from there.

 

[beta]

you do not want us compare sabbath observance today with that in the OT? What is the different?

are you cook in sabbath? A member of sabbath observance was pay me to drive her to go to church oN sabbath is that sin to make work in sabbath?

If you think it's sin why did you drive her ? no I don't cook on the Sabbath...I have a light meal.

 

[blue_ladybug]

It is NOT a sin to cook on the sabbath..or do laundry, or drive somewhere...

 

[Jackson123]

If you think it's sin why did you drive her ? no I don't cook on the Sabbath...I have a light meal.

I am not SDA so I am not think It sin, she pay me and I need money anyway. But AS sabbath observance, do you think It is sin?

Why you not cook in sabbath, is there any verse say not cook in sabbath?

 

[Studyman]

Abraham wasn't perfect according to the flesh. But he was counted righteous because of his faith.

I suppose it must be because of all the instruction and explanation in the bible showing that the law (10 commandments) doesn't make a person right before God that it couldn't be the same commandments given in Gen 26 as in Ex 20.

See Romans 9:31-33 for starters

Yet, the Law made Jesus "right" before God.

 

[LoveGodForever]

I am not SDA so I am not think It sin, she pay me and I need money anyway. But AS sabbath observance, do you think It is sin?

Why you not cook in sabbath, is there any verse say not cook in sabbath?

Hello Jackson, how can you know what SIN is if you do not BELIEVE or KNOW the Word of God? SIN is the transgression or breaking of any of God's 10 Commandments. These give us the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS is (1 John 3:4; PS 119:172; Romans 3:20; 7:7; James 2:11).

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten commandments ( Exodus 20:8-11 ). If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing SIN (James 2:8-12; Romans 3:19). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgivenes s we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
You do indeed reject the scriptures and do not know them or him who is calling you. Well did Jesus and Paul say to those that would not believe the Word of God as it was back then there is nothing new under the sun. As it was back then so shall it is today.

Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers, Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive: For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Not cooking on the Sabbath

Exodus 16
22, And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
23, And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
24, And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein.
25, And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.
26, Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
27, And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.

Exodus 35
3, Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.


There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed come judgement day. The Word of God that is rejected by all, will be the judge of those who it has come to.

Sin will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom. Be it known this is the Word of God and the Kingdom of heaven has drawn near to you. If you reject God's Word you reject Jesus and no one else can help you unless you repent and BELIEVE him who loves you and is calling you.

.................

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

 

[Jackson123]

Hello Jackson, how can you know what SIN is if you do not BELIEVE or KNOW the Word of God? SIN is the transgression or breaking of any of God's 10 Commandments. These give us the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN and RIGHTEOUSNESS is (1 John 3:4; PS 119:172; Romans 3:20; 7:7; James 2:11).

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten commandments ( Exodus 20:8-11 ). If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing SIN (James 2:8-12; Romans 3:19). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgivenes s we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
You do indeed reject the scriptures and do not know them or him who is calling you. Well did Jesus and Paul say to those that would not believe the Word of God as it was back then there is nothing new under the sun. As it was back then so shall it is today.

Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers, Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive: For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Not cooking on the Sabbath

Exodus 16
22, And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
23, And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
24, And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein.
25, And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.
26, Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
27, And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.

Exodus 35
3, Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.


There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed come judgement day. The Word of God that is rejected by all, will be the judge of those who it has come to.

Sin will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom. Be it known this is the Word of God and the Kingdom of heaven has drawn near to you. If you reject God's Word you reject Jesus and no one else can help you unless you repent and BELIEVE him who loves you and is calling you.

.................

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

let me quote one of the verse why you not cook oN sabbath

Exodus 35

3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.

so you believe this verse still valid for new covenant thoug not oN 4 th commandment?

It mean you believe all regulation about sabbath from OT still valid, am I correct?

 

[LoveGodForever]

let me quote one of the verse why you not cook oN sabbath

Exodus 35 3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day. so you believe this verse still valid for new covenant thoug not oN 4 th commandment?It mean you believe all regulation about sabbath from OT still valid, am I correct?

My dear friend,

You ask many questions that have politely been answered with scripture. When you are provided with scripture you ignore it or reject it.

You have not read the OP here or responded to the OP.

As I have politley answered all your questions I only ask you two questions now and look forward to your answer.

1. Is someone who professes to be a Christian who is living a LIFE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN in a saved state before God or un UNSAVED state before God?

2. Where is God's Word does it say God's 4th Commandment has now been ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day?

I look forward to your reply.

 

[Jackson123]

My dear friend,

You ask many questions that have politely been answered with scripture. When you are provided with scripture you ignore it or reject it.

You have not read the OP here or responded to the OP.

As I have politley answered all your questions I only ask you two questions now and look forward to your answer.

1. Is someone who professes to be a Christian who is living a LIFE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN in a saved state before God or un UNSAVED state before God?

2. Where is God's Word does it say God's 4th Commandment has now been ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day?

I look forward to your reply.

1. Not

2. A Lot example

[h=1]Romans 14:5King James Version (KJV)[/h]5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

now answere my question friend

you believe all verse that regulate sabbath, like not cook in sabbath is valid, am I correct?

 

[LoveGodForever]

Comments for you below my friend

1. Is someone who professes to be a Christian who is living a LIFE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN in a saved state before God or un UNSAVED state before God?

1. Not

Ok friend you have answered correctly in the first question as the scripture says no one is in a saved state before God who knowingly practicies SIN....

God's Word defines SIN as breaking of any of Gods 10 Commandments (Romans 7:7; James 2:11; 1 John 3:4; Romans 3:20)

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement as it is written;

Hebrews 10
26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

You have answered your own question and the Word of God is your witness that you know that to continue in SIN will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom and you have a knowledge of the truth but have rejected it.

God's Word witnesses against you because you say you believe that if someone is practicing KNOWN SIN (breaking God's 10 Commandments) they are not in a saved state before GOD. Are you in a saved state before God my brother when you are breaking the 4th Commandment of the 10 commandments?

2. A Lot example
Romans 14:5King James Version (KJV)
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
now answere my question friend
you believe all verse that regulate sabbath, like not cook in sabbath is valid, am I correct?

Not correct. This answer is a contradiction of your first answer. SIN is breaking any of God's 10 Commandments....

James 2
8, If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Please my friend tell me where in Romans 14 does it say that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day?

Your own words now stand as a witness against you my friend. Only those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God are his people. We should BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. All those practicing KNOWN SIN sill not enter into the KINGDOM of heaven. God calls us to REPENT and BELIEVE and FOLLOW the Gospel. God's Sheep hear his voice (the Word).

.................

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

 

[FlyingDove]

Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
(NOTE: Believers are already seated in heavenly places, thru faith in Christ)

Jesus is our Sabbath, key to understanding this is the Hebrew word sabat, which means "to rest or stop or cease from work."

Hebrews 10:1 tells us that the law "could never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect.

These sacrifices were offered in anticipation of the ultimate redemptive sin atoning sacrifice. Found in the death, burial & resurrection of Jesus the Christ

Who "after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right of God" (Hebrews 10:12).

After performing the ultimate sacrifice. He sat down and rested, ceased from His labor of atonement, because there was nothing more to be done, EVER!

Hebrews 4, has the definitive passage's regarding Jesus as our Sabbath rest. The writer to the Hebrews exhorts his readers to "enter in" to the Sabbath rest provided by Christ

Because of what Christ did (HIS WORKS), we no longer have to "labor" in law keeping in order to be justified in the sight of God.

"God made Him who had NO sin to be sin for us. So, that in Him we can become the righteousness of God" (2 Corinthians 5:21). We can now cease from our labors and rest in Him, not just one day a week, but everyday!

As God incarnate, Jesus, can be our Sabbath rest because He is "Lord of the Sabbath" (Matthew 12:8).

"The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath" (Mark 2:27) Jesus said; sheep who would hear His voice (John 10:3,27) and enter into the Sabbath rest He provided by paying for their sins.

Vine's Expository Dictionary of NT Words: Rest

(Strong's #4520 — Noun Masculine — sabbatismos — sab-bat-is-mos' )

"a Sabbath-keeping," is used in Hebrews 4:9 here the sabbath-keeping is the perpetual sabbath "rest" to be enjoyed uninterruptedly by believers in their fellowship with the Father and the Son, in contrast to the weekly Sabbath under the Law. Because this sabbath "rest" is the "rest" of God Himself,

Hebrews 4:10 , its full fruition is yet future, though believers now enter into it. In whatever way they enter into Divine "rest," that which they enjoy is involved in an indissoluble relation with God

 

[Jackson123]

Comments for you below my friend




Ok friend you have answered correctly in the first question as the scripture says no one is in a saved state before God who knowingly practicies SIN....

God's Word defines SIN as breaking of any of Gods 10 Commandments (Romans 7:7; James 2:11; 1 John 3:4; Romans 3:20)

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement as it is written;

Hebrews 10
26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

You have answered your own question and the Word of God is your witness that you know that to continue in SIN will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom and you have a knowledge of the truth but have rejected it.

God's Word witnesses against you because you say you believe that if someone is practicing KNOWN SIN (breaking God's 10 Commandments) they are not in a saved state before GOD. Are you in a saved state before God my brother when you are breaking the 4th Commandment of the 10 commandments?



Not correct. This answer is a contradiction of your first answer. SIN is breaking any of God's 10 Commandments....

James 2
8, If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Please my friend tell me where in Romans 14 does it say that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day?

Your own words now stand as a witness against you my friend. Only those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God are his people. We should BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. All those practicing KNOWN SIN sill not enter into the KINGDOM of heaven. God calls us to REPENT and BELIEVE and FOLLOW the Gospel. God's Sheep hear his voice (the Word).

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There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.

Paul say in Romans 14 that is OK to esteemeth every day alike mean sabbath is like monday or sunday

now answere my question you not cook oN sabbath because there is a verse that regulate not to cook oN sabbath. Is that mean you believe all verse that regulate sabbath still valid? I ask this question 3 X my friend, why don't your answere?