Is The Book of Revelation a False Prophecy?

[CainHarmbank]

The morality in question has to do with control.

Is it moral to always want to be in control?

If Revelation is a prediction about the future of the world that suggests the person or persons feeding this book to John of Patmos need to be in control of certain matters to make sure their predictions come true, right?

I agree that its probably wise to be neutral and assume you may be incorrect or correct about your preconceived notions. This is actually an amoral approach, isn't it?

Do you think Revelation shares our wisdom in regards to predicting future events?

 

[pckts]

Well, I'll post one that is probably more like what He really looked like.

He was what we know as "black"

So were the Israelites, so were the Apostles, you can find old accounts of their appearance as having black skin.

Lamentations 5:10
King James Bible
Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.

White skin gets whiter in a famine, black gets blacker.


The Bible also describes the Jews and Egyptians as near identical in scripture, and the ancient Egyptians were black.





THE EGYPTIANS - Essential

 

[CainHarmbank]

I know that probably 97% of people read The Apocalypse (Revelation) with a preconceived notion. I know that I sure did.... for about four and a half decades.

Do you still interpret Revelation with a preconceived notion?

 

[Depleted]

Fun game!

Go to a Christian site, join in, and ask a question that's about God, sort of, but never truly a question about wanting to get to know God, then watch Christians argue it to death.

When the flames die down, nudge a little, to get the fire going some more.

Questions: Why do so many fall for this game so easily? And then play along as if it means anything at all to the unbeliever?

 

[CainHarmbank]

The Book of Revelation is the inspired Word of God... And it will all be shown to be correct in the future..

But i agree with the point others have made in this thread.. That the interpretations of men of what the Book of Revelation means are often not to be trusted..

Are there any men or women who can interpret Revelation accurately?

 

[Depleted]

The morality in question has to do with control.

Is it moral to always want to be in control?

If Revelation is a prediction about the future of the world that suggests the person or persons feeding this book to John of Patmos need to be in control of certain matters to make sure their predictions come true, right?

I agree that its probably wise to be neutral and assume you may be incorrect or correct about your preconceived notions. This is actually an amoral approach, isn't it?

Do you think Revelation shares our wisdom in regards to predicting future events?

Truthfully, there is no morality in question. You could care less about morality in this one. If you cared, you'd be asking about God rather than the vague things you've heard about Revelation. And you'd be asking about real morality rather than this.

 

[joefizz]

Fun game!

Go to a Christian site, join in, and ask a question that's about God, sort of, but never truly a question about wanting to get to know God, then watch Christians argue it to death.

When the flames die down, nudge a little, to get the fire going some more.

Questions: Why do so many fall for this game so easily? And then play along as if it means anything at all to the unbeliever?

Gasp!!!!
Christians argue???
Incredible I thought Christians were only allowed to be civil and discuss instead of do a disappearing act,I am so shocked!

 

[Speak2Me]

I guess you don't think Revelation itself is a preconceived notion, a prediction of the future?

I'm talking about the preconceived notions of men.

What are you talking about?

 

[CainHarmbank]

This is like asking whether the Bible is Divine revelation or just a collection of human writings.

The very first verse tells you that the Revelation is the Word of God. It matters not how it is interpreted, or by whom.

Preconceived notions have nothing to do with morals. But it is not good to have preconceived notions about anything.

If God is not an individual human being, what is God?

 

[tourist]

If God is not an individual human being, what is God?

In the book of John it says the God is love.

 

[CainHarmbank]

the thread title is just ridiculous.



this one is more fun.

morality that has not been preconceived is situational ethics.

no, it is not morally good. sin is sin and it doesn't become not-sin just by being committed in a certain way or at a certain time or in a certain place.

sure, you can devise some situation where a choice has to be made between two evils. but that doesn't make a lesser evil "not evil"
sure, you can imagine a circumstance where someone else will do evil if you do good, and do good if you do evil. it may present you with a dilemma but it doesn't make your evil good.

situational ethics is lack of absolute morality. it's nihilism, and it's at best amoral.

Haha. I guess I was going for a click bait title.

Do you think Revelation is a preconceived notion?

Kinda seems like that to me.

So I guess your interpretation is Revelation is at best amoral, and at worst nihilism?

Hmmm... I now have an idea for another click bait title...

 

[CainHarmbank]

And considering there is a curse for anyone who changes the words, throwing it out entirely may be hazardous to one's spiritual health.

Do you believe the words of the bible have magical power?

 

[CainHarmbank]

You can always check out the history of it. Most of it already happened in the first century A.D.

Hmm... You mean the prophecies of Revelation were fulfilled in the first century AD?

The book was written around 70 AD I think.

So I guess your saying all the prophecies got fulfilled the same century it was written?

 

[CainHarmbank]

What do you mean preconceived notion?

An example would be an idea to build a city and or nation before any such city and or nation is built, which seems to be preconceived in the book of Revelation.

I think its a pretty tough moral question.

On one hand it could be an opportunity for great improvement.

On another hand it may start a massive war that destroys much of the world as we know it.

 

[Blain]

What do folks here think?

And, as a side topic to this question...

Is it good morals to have a preconceived notion?

Considering that it was a direct prophecy from the very mouth of God I think you know what everyone's answer will be. As for the preconceived notion moral has nothing to do with it, people have different levels and different kinds of understanding and interpretations, peoples minds work differently and thus may look at the same scripture and get 3 different interpretations.
I mean was it moral or amoral for Thomas edison to have the preconceived notion that he could create a light bulb?And if you are at an art museum and there is a beautiful but confounding painting that seems to change what it appears to be depending on what angle you look at it make an individuals interpretation of it moral or amoral?

 

[CainHarmbank]

In the book of John it says the God is love.

Ya apparently he can shoot you through the heart...

 

[CainHarmbank]

As neither was changing Scripture to depict a scene of thousands of Christians, totally changing their supposed beliefs of loving their enemies (Jesus' explicit command to every Christian) to, instead, come riding in a gleeful, slaughtering army.

You're talking about chapter 19 right?

How about the part about the angels in heaven eating the flesh of men?

Can you help explain that to me in a way that doesn't make me think of cannibalism?

 

[CainHarmbank]

Considering that it was a direct prophecy from the very mouth of God I think you know what everyone's answer will be. As for the preconceived notion moral has nothing to do with it, people have different levels and different kinds of understanding and interpretations, peoples minds work differently and thus may look at the same scripture and get 3 different interpretations.
I mean was it moral or amoral for Thomas edison to have the preconceived notion that he could create a light bulb?And if you are at an art museum and there is a beautiful but confounding painting that seems to change what it appears to be depending on what angle you look at it make an individuals interpretation of it moral or amoral?

I guess any good work starts off amoral because you don't know if you will bring lots of good at the start of the trial.

 

[CainHarmbank]

It did but God has a habit of repeating himself. He destroyed the Temple and Jerusalem using Babylon, then he did it again with the Romans and then repeated the Roman excercise by flattening Jerusalem and ploughing over the site. Just to make sure the message got across he allowed a Pagan City and Temple to be built over it. Then he got Constantine to rebuild Jerusalem. At the second coming he will do it all again.

Are you saying God is plotting to destroy Jerusalem again?

 

[Ahwatukee]

You're talking about chapter 19 right?

How about the part about the angels in heaven eating the flesh of men?

Can you help explain that to me in a way that doesn't make me think of cannibalism?

Hello CainHarmbank,

I couldn't help notice that in your post you mention "angels in heaven eating the flesh of men." What scripture exactly are you referring to? Because there is no scripture in Revelation where angels eat the flesh of men.

Thanks!