Is The Book of Revelation a False Prophecy?

[ComeLordJesus]

Those claiming to be from israel today, are from a nation that was called "Khazaria" and they converted to Judaism around the 9th or 10th century. They have no birth right to Israel, any blood, and the covenant was not to them.

It became the "national religion" of Khazaria. Then at some point the nation fell and the jews were scattered to the neighboring countries, but they did not assimilate and held onto what is essentially their nationalism, through the religion.

Benjamin Freedman gave a speech on this topic in 1961 if you are interested:
[video=youtube;x8OmxI2AYV8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8OmxI2AYV8[/video]

Here are some verses about curses upon the children of Israel:

Deuteronomy 32:26
I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men:

◄ Deuteronomy 28:46 ►

King James Bible
And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.


◄ Deuteronomy 28:16 ►
King James Bible
Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.

King James Bible
The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.

It says the remembrance of them will cease from among men, which isn't true of the white jews of today they have their culture, israel, and the respect of the deceived as "chosen ones". If the jews were black however, the remembrance of them as jews has been forgotten by everyone, including blacks themselves.

The jews were also to be cursed in all they do, yet we know the white jews of today own the banks, entertainment, politics, and seem to be doing fine. These curses were supposed to last "for ever".


So their is the historical evidence the modern people known as jews (the Ashkenaz) converted to the religion, and these curses do not seem to apply to them, while they apply to the "black jews" that we have ceased to remember.

That Kazar stuff is totally unproven.

 

[pckts]

That Kazar stuff is totally unproven.

Maybe to you. The "khazars" have considerable control over what is "proven". Step outside their influence and look into it.

 

[ComeLordJesus]

Some mention Isaiah 53:2 when speaking of Jesus' appearance. The passage serves as a prediction of the suffering servant in reference to Jesus. It states, "For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him." According to this verse, Jesus was not known for His physical looks, which confirms the New Testament accounts that mention nothing about His looks.​

 

[pckts]

Some mention Isaiah 53:2 when speaking of Jesus' appearance. The passage serves as a prediction of the suffering servant in reference to Jesus. It states, "For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him." According to this verse, Jesus was not known for His physical looks, which confirms the New Testament accounts that mention nothing about His looks.​

A humble appearance fits with his humble birth and upbringing. And to know our "vanity" troubles too, not that He was vain in any way.

 

[pottersclay]

And here we go......the book of Revelation of Jesus Christ.....written by a saint of the Lord whos message was to love...love....love writes what he sees from heavens point of view.
Now here's the ironic part....John message of love is through out the gospel....his Epistles...now the Lord calls upon him to write the most controversial book that has had saints and aints at each other's throats for decades. And you thought God didn't have a sense of humor.

Post trib, pre trib, mid trib, rapture, no rapture, 1000 yrs, no 1000 yrs. 7yrs, happened in 70 a.d yet to come. The bowls, the viles, ECT ECT.

The only pre conceived notion one could ever have is the fact that you will never get it right 100 percent just ask another saint.....lol

This thread will go from a spark to a California wild fire in less than a day or so....lol.

Brother John if you can hear me I apologise in advance but let us all agree on this one thing.....
L
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d Jesus Come Quickly.



Potter...

 

[Nehemiah6]

Some mention Isaiah 53:2 when speaking of Jesus' appearance. The passage serves as a prediction of the suffering servant in reference to Jesus. It states, "For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him." According to this verse, Jesus was not known for His physical looks, which confirms the New Testament accounts that mention nothing about His looks.

While all of this was true for the Suffering Servant of the Father, it is no longer applicable. When Scripture says that Christ will come "with power and great glory" it also reveals that His appearance will be glorious, majestic, and fearful to look upon by those who rejected Him. So we should not carry over things which belong to the first coming of Christ into the second coming. He came as the Lamb of God at His first coming, but He comes as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah at His second coming. A fearsome sight to His enemies, but glorious, majestic, and beautiful to the saints and angels. Lions are indeed majestic and beautiful creatures but terrifying to their enemies and their prey.

 

[Nehemiah6]

...now the Lord calls upon him to write the most controversial book that has had saints and saints at each other's throats for decades.

Since Revelation plainly says that the person who reads and hears it and keeps its sayings is blessed, God never meant for this book to be controversial. That is all because of man-made doctrines which interfere with a proper understanding of this book.

Without this book Christians would never know what God's ultimate plan for the universe and the earth would be. Left-Liberals are clamoring to save the earth while they destroy human beings, but God is saving humans and will literally destroy this atmospheric heaven and earth, and bring about the eternal New Heavens and New Earth wherein dwelleth righteousness.

 

[ComeLordJesus]

While all of this was true for the Suffering Servant of the Father, it is no longer applicable. When Scripture says that Christ will come "with power and great glory" it also reveals that His appearance will be glorious, majestic, and fearful to look upon by those who rejected Him. So we should not carry over things which belong to the first coming of Christ into the second coming. He came as the Lamb of God at His first coming, but He comes as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah at His second coming. A fearsome sight to His enemies, but glorious, majestic, and beautiful to the saints and angels. Lions are indeed majestic and beautiful creatures but terrifying to their enemies and their prey.

If you had been paying attention you would have seen that I wasn't trying to apply the Suffering Servant passage of Isaiah 53 to Jesus now. I was pointing out what God's word says about Jesus' appearance.

 

[Nehemiah6]

If you had been paying attention you would have seen that I wasn't trying to apply the Suffering Servant passage of Isaiah 53 to Jesus now. I was pointing out what God's word says about Jesus' appearance.

Yes, and I was pointing out that that is no longer His appearance. This is now His appearance:

13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. (Rev 1:13-16).

Thus Christ now resembles The Ancient of Days

I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of Days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened. (Dan 7:9,10).

 

[joefizz]

Yes, and I was pointing out that that is no longer His appearance. This is now His appearance:

13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. (Rev 1:13-16).

Thus Christ now resembles The Ancient of Days

I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of Days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened. (Dan 7:9,10).

Yes indeed.

 

[Depleted]

Hmm... You mean the prophecies of Revelation were fulfilled in the first century AD?

The book was written around 70 AD I think.

So I guess your saying all the prophecies got fulfilled the same century it was written?

And you guess, because you don't really want to put any effort into getting answers to your question. See the game? I sure do.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Now you see THIS is the trouble with the KJV.
I can't stop laughing. How does one get any studying done?

I'm so glad I know that verse from a modern English translation so I don't have to look it up.

 

[valiant]

There is absolutely no Scriptural basis for this fanciful interpretation.

TRUE for YOUR fanciful interpretation,

Rev 6-18 precede Rev 19 and that entire section of Revelation deals with future JUDGMENTS on the unbelieving, the ungodly, and the enemies of Christ

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future in John's day, mainly past in ours.

The time for bringing men to Christ is now, BEFORE the judgments of Revelation begin.

The time for bringing men to Christ is and was during the judgements.

We are already seeing judgments in the natural disasters that have been taking place recently.

The world has seen judgments from the beginning,

 

[jaybird88]

Those claiming to be from israel today, are from a nation that was called "Khazaria" and they converted to Judaism around the 9th or 10th century. They have no birth right to Israel, any blood, and the covenant was not to them.

It became the "national religion" of Khazaria. Then at some point the nation fell and the jews were scattered to the neighboring countries, but they did not assimilate and held onto what is essentially their nationalism, through the religion.

you think the ashkenazi Jews may go back further and root back to the northern kingdom of Israel that rebelled?

 

[pckts]

you think the ashkenazi Jews may go back further and root back to the northern kingdom of Israel that rebelled?

There are other ethnic jews that have to be accounted for other than ashkenazi and the black egyptian appearing jews. So I would say that since this group that rebelled could have been black, any number of other jewish ethnicities that exist, or the white jews that run the world, the odds aren't in their favor for this narrative.

There is also the compelling evidence that these "zionist, khaballist or orthodox" jews, are doing the work of the devil and even worshiping it. Owning the shrewd banks, corrupting society through the "entertainment" industry, and controlling politics in these End Times is incriminating to say the least. If we know them by their fruits, it seems they are evil.





If you look into what they actually believe, you find they are not the OT observers they may have led us to believe. They actually follow what is known as the "oral tradition/law/torah". Basically laws that undermine and overrule the OT written throughout the years by their elder rabbi.

This Oral Torah says unthinkable things about Christ and Mary, attributing his father to a roman soldier, and much worse blasphemy.


You also have the scripture speaking of the imposter jews:
Revelation 2:9

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[TR]
[TD="class: passage-col col-xs-12 first last"]
[SUP]9 [/SUP]I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.




[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Revelation 3:9

[SUP]9 [/SUP]Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.





So when you consider the ethnicity of the true Israelites, the curses they were placed upon them, the evil works of the modern jew, the evil doctrine of the modern jew, the prophecy of the jewish imposter who worships the devil, and the story of the nation of Khazaria and those sources that back the claim, it leads me to the conclusion they are devil worshiping (the ones at the bottom are oblivious to overt devil worship like in the catholic power structure) imposter jews.

The Pharisees of Christ time killed the prophets and were identified as children of satan by Christ. This evil certainly continued after Christ's mission, and eventually this evil made it's way to Khazaria where they gladly accepted a nation to indoctrinate with their evil doctrine and intentions. From there it mutated into what it is today.

The "Khazaria" thing only dismisses their "blood right" and explains their origin, it's not necessary to know that they are evil imposter jews. It does however explain how the curses of the children of Israel have seemingly escaped them, and the identity of the true jews, who now mostly have converted to Christianity or have fallen into ignorance.

The "ashkanazi" jew are responsible for the globalist new world order agenda, the liberal agendas, and their messiah is undoubtedly our anti-christ. The evidence is there they are khazars too though, it's worth exploring.

 

[Willie-T]

Now you see THIS is the trouble with the KJV.
I can't stop laughing. How does one get any studying done?

I'm so glad I know that verse from a modern English translation so I don't have to look it up.

It is even more of a hoot when you know what "paps" are.

 

[ComeLordJesus]

You also have the scripture speaking of the imposter jews:
Revelation 2:9

[TABLE="class: passage-cols"]
[TR]
[TD="class: passage-col col-xs-12 first last"] [SUP]9 [/SUP]I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.



[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Revelation 3:9

[SUP]9 [/SUP]Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

I think this really applies to the Samaritans who at first lived primarily in central Palestine (between Judea and Galilee) that claimed to be descendants of the Ten Tribes of the Israelites who resided in the country before the Assyrians took them captive in the eighth and seventh centuries B.C. They later came back to Palestine, according to them, and settled in the area around Samaria nd Shechem. The Bible, however, records that they were basically made up of five Babylonian tribes who worshipped five national deities and they mixed their pagan idolatrous doctrines with the teachings of the Old Testament. 2Kings 17:24-41

Scripture states without a doubt that the Samaritans after the sixth century B.C. were Gentiles and not Israelites from the Northern Tribes. It states: "Israel was carried away 2Kings 17:6,23, and other nations were placed "in the cities of Samaria instead of the children of Israel" 2Kings 17:24

It was not unusual for eastern monarchs at this time to take every person from their homelands and replace them with their own people. This is one of the principal reasons the Jewish people normally referred to these Samaritans of later time as being Cuthians because they primarily originated from the old priestly city of Cutha a short distance north and east of Babylon and reportedly built by Cush the grandson of Noah just after the Flood.

When Paul went to the island of Cyprus, Luke specifically stated that he went to "the synagogue of the Jews" Acts 13:5 where apparently Jews had control and where there was a specific Jewish worship. When Paul fled to Iconium from the major city of Antioch of Pisidia, he went to "the synagogue of the Jews" Acts 14:1. Later when he left Thessalonica he went to Berea where it is said again where there was "the synagogue of the Jews" Acts 17:10. It is significant that Luke made a point of saying "synagaoue of the Jew."

When Paul went to Athens and went to the synagogue there Luke simply refers to it as "the synagogue" that was adjacent to the Market Place. Luke states that Paul immediately began to argue with the Jews and other worshippers so the synagogue and the Market Place must have had idolatrous things associated with them. Acts 17:17

John would have known about this and I believe that is what he is referring to in Revelation.

 

[pckts]

I think this really applies to the Samaritans who at first lived primarily in central Palestine (between Judea and Galilee) that claimed to be descendants of the Ten Tribes of the Israelites who resided in the country before the Assyrians took them captive in the eighth and seventh centuries B.C. They later came back to Palestine, according to them, and settled in the area around Samaria nd Shechem. The Bible, however, records that they were basically made up of five Babylonian tribes who worshipped five national deities and they mixed their pagan idolatrous doctrines with the teachings of the Old Testament. 2Kings 17:24-41

Scripture states without a doubt that the Samaritans after the sixth century B.C. were Gentiles and not Israelites from the Northern Tribes. It states: "Israel was carried away 2Kings 17:6,23, and other nations were placed "in the cities of Samaria instead of the children of Israel" 2Kings 17:24

It was not unusual for eastern monarchs at this time to take every person from their homelands and replace them with their own people. This is one of the principal reasons the Jewish people normally referred to these Samaritans of later time as being Cuthians because they primarily originated from the old priestly city of Cutha a short distance north and east of Babylon and reportedly built by Cush the grandson of Noah just after the Flood.

When Paul went to the island of Cyprus, Luke specifically stated that he went to "the synagogue of the Jews" Acts 13:5 where apparently Jews had control and where there was a specific Jewish worship. When Paul fled to Iconium from the major city of Antioch of Pisidia, he went to "the synagogue of the Jews" Acts 14:1. Later when he left Thessalonica he went to Berea where it is said again where there was "the synagogue of the Jews" Acts 17:10. It is significant that Luke made a point of saying "synagaoue of the Jew."

When Paul went to Athens and went to the synagogue there Luke simply refers to it as "the synagogue" that was adjacent to the Market Place. Luke states that Paul immediately began to argue with the Jews and other worshippers so the synagogue and the Market Place must have had idolatrous things associated with them. Acts 17:17

John would have known about this and I believe that is what he is referring to in Revelation.

The verse applies to all false jews, not just the ones you speak of. He will make them all worship at his feet.

Why are you so skeptical the Zionist jews destroying your society and enslaving your brethren are not "chosen" or "blood" to Israel? You don't want to believe you have been deceived and require a perspective change?

 

[Nehemiah6]

I'm so glad I know that verse from a modern English translation so I don't have to look it up.

You can laugh all you want, but that is a minor inconvenience compared to the serious issues that exist with modern English translations. BTW for over 300 years English-speaking Christians had no issues with the KJB. Think about that for a moment.

 

[Speak2Me]

Those claiming to be from israel today, are from a nation that was called "Khazaria" and they converted to Judaism around the 9th or 10th century. They have no birth right to Israel, any blood, and the covenant was not to them.

It became the "national religion" of Khazaria. Then at some point the nation fell and the jews were scattered to the neighboring countries, but they did not assimilate and held onto what is essentially their nationalism, through the religion.

Benjamin Freedman gave a speech on this topic in 1961 if you are interested:
[video=youtube;x8OmxI2AYV8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8OmxI2AYV8[/video]

Here are some verses about curses upon the children of Israel:

Deuteronomy 32:26
I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men:

◄ Deuteronomy 28:46 ►

King James Bible
And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.


◄ Deuteronomy 28:16 ►
King James Bible
Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.

King James Bible
The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.

It says the remembrance of them will cease from among men, which isn't true of the white jews of today they have their culture, israel, and the respect of the deceived as "chosen ones". If the jews were black however, the remembrance of them as jews has been forgotten by everyone, including blacks themselves.

The jews were also to be cursed in all they do, yet we know the white jews of today own the banks, entertainment, politics, and seem to be doing fine. These curses were supposed to last "for ever".


So their is the historical evidence the modern people known as jews (the Ashkenaz) converted to the religion, and these curses do not seem to apply to them, while they apply to the "black jews" that we have ceased to remember.

Thank you for posting this.
All the nations do not know that WWI was actually started by Kharazian(Ashkenazi) Jews, who weren't Jews at all. Zionists are not blood Jews.

Neither do they know that the reason why Russia was the prime target of WWI, because The Czar basically throwed out the Rothchild bankers who were trying to establish a banking system there to keep Russia under control.

It took about 100 years for the Rothschilds to get even, but they did, destroying the entire Romanov Dynasty.

Some think the reason that 144,000 Jews are chosen out by God is because that's about all the true blood Jews left.

Unprovable, but blood Jews are a minority in Israel today.