It seems you wish to disagree without coming right out and saying it. But you cannot, can you? Because the original twelve apostles were largely clueless after all their years of walking and talking with the pre-crucified Christ. Just admit it
Why do so many people think Paul was a false apostle?
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jaybird88
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i would rather be taught by Jesus. not saying your wrong but i never been a fan of the idea that we know better than the 12 trained by Jesus.
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jaybird88
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i dont think your getting what im saying. what would you do if some guy came up to you, told you he had personal revelation from Jesus, and its different than what Jesus taught. anyone can claim to have personal revelation.
Do you doubt what is in scriptures written by Paul?
I don't. I believe all scripture is God-breathed, whether the words were written by Moses, David, Solomon, Matthew, Paul, or any of the other writers.
Well, you would be in a predicament.
Unless that revelation were part of scripture. Then you would have to reconcile the revelation with what the Lord Jesus taught and find out why YOU THINK its different than what He taught.
Also, Jaybird, here is what Peter, one of the original 12 who were with Jesus during his entire ministry, had to say about Paul's writings:
2 Pet 3:
15) And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16) As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
It seems Peter believed what Paul wrote.
I wouldn't worry about this,
I just googled "Marcelo is an alien" and got 576,000 results.
Oy, maybe that is why I did not get as many results
The conclusion drawn from the results must be scuttled, then
I got About 1,790,000 results (0.41 seconds)
Actually, maxwel was exactly right. I just googled "marcelo is an alien" (without the quotes) and got:
If you google "marcelo is an alien" with the quotes, you get three results, and two of them are links to posts just made in this thread.
Google is getting amazingly quick at indexing things.
Of course I would ignore it!
But the revelation received by Paul from the risen Jesus is different -- it became Scripture.
I did as you said (no quotation marks), and still got about 1,790,000 results in 0.30 seconds.
With apologies to Marcelo
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jaybird88
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It seems you wish to disagree without coming right out and saying it. But you cannot, can you? Because the original twelve apostles were largely clueless after all their years of walking and talking with the pre-crucified Christ. Just admit it
IMO we are the ones that are clueless and could learn something from them. if the movement of Christianity only gets better as the years go by then we should all be walking on water by now, i dont see that, i see lots of diversity, lots of judgment on each other, and the biggest accusers are always the ones with the biggest plank in their eye.
It seems you still do not want to admit that the original twelve apostles were largely clueless previous to the resurrection of Jesus Christ, when their eyes were finally more fully opened, and they underwent major transformations. Jesus' two brothers, too, both of whom went on to write what is now accepted in the canon of Scripture. Do you honestly think the apostles always got along? There were many factions within Judaism, too, and there still are.
Does the death and reserection not mean anything to you? The Bible is very very clear about how that was the end of the old covenant and the start of the new......
