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"The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire". Gibbon identified five major causes behind
the fall of one of history’s greatest empires. Declining demographics didn’t make the list. Nor did
insufficient technology or climate change.

His first fundamental factor was [the breakdown of the family]. Then he listed increased taxation,
an insatiable craving for pleasure, an unsustainable buildup of armaments, and the decay of religion.


According to Gibbon, the root cause of Roman societal collapse was their loss of civic virtue
and individual morality. Gibbon believed the laws of morality were as unchanging as the laws
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"You're a hypocrite, not tolerating my express agenda to take away your right to tolerate!"
First of all, I would like to apologize to Society for my unkind comments the other day in the chatroom. A gender issue was raised that I was not familiar with and I said that I would have to "figure out what that is first." People are people. We are not defined by our issues, whatever they may be. What that is, or rather, "who" someone is with an identity or behavioral concern related to gender orientation, is they are a human being, who is likely suffering very much from influences beyond their control. It does not help to judge them, since most of the time, our own issues are probably worse, including mean-spirited judgmental condemnation of others. Most people have some sort of identity issue whether they realize it or not. The only healing that can be found in this world is through true identity in Christ--this is the only peace in this world, "not as the world, gives, but, I give to you," Jesus said. When we take part in things that the Bible implies or defines as unhealthy, our soul will suffer, because we are living contrary to our true identity as Christians and sons and daughters of God, if that is who we are. God defines our identity, and we do also by how we honor that truth and reality.

Christmas is a time for peace and forgiveness towards everyone, including our enemies. But, forgiveness does not always mean a restoration to friendship or fellowship. For a good understanding of what forgiveness is, or is not, the book, "Victory Over the Darkness," and the "Freedom in Christ" ministry, give a good understanding of what forgiveness means for Christians since it is a commandment of the LORD. It is not optional. It means beginning by making a decision to forgive someone, not what they may have done, or a perceived offense, or offensive lifestyle, but to forgive them, in obedience to the Commandment of Christ to do so, under the most dire consequences if we do not. It's also offensive to hate our enemies. It may take years, or even a lifetime, but it begins with a decision, and even a phone call or communication of some sort if it is safe and appropriate, to convey forgiveness. That frees us as Christians from being chained to our past and from the inner dungeon of unforgiveness and bitterness or even hatred of our enemies.

Having said all this, would it be possible to maybe to set this discussion thread aside for Christmas, so that everyone's private issues and orientation and sexuality of both sides of the discussion, including boundary issues of both sexes, married or not. does not have to be in everyone's living rooms during Christmas.

And maybe pick it up in the New Year--
 
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Ontario new law allows govt to seize children if parents oppose their ‘gender identity’
https://www.rt.com/news/391164-ontario-gender-identity-children/

Bill 89 or “The Supporting Children, Youth and Families Act of 2017” on June 1.

View the Bill | Bill 89, Supporting Children, Youth and Families Act, 2017 | Bills & Lawmaking | Current Parliament | Legislative Assembly of Ontario


The parents have no right to tell little children what sex they are.?

I guess doing a bit of a Google is beyond expectations?

No, the bill does not give the government the right to take kids away merely for not agreeing with their gender identity. It merely brings existing laws up to date with the human rights code. It applies to kids in foster care and kids in abusive families.
 

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WHAT CAUSES HOMOSEXUALITY?


"I can only speculate as to why this occurs." he says

5. Past life issues, perhaps.

"Some say that the soul has had other lives and other bodies in the past.
Reincarnation is an important tenet of Hinduism, Buddhism, and among
some Hebrew and early Christian groups.

If it is true, then memories of past life experiences might cause homosexual
tendencies, especially in children. Children often have good recall of past lives,
although this problem can affect adults, as well.

For example, let us say that a person had a female body in a past life, and now
has a male body. It is possible that memories or feelings from the past lifetime
as a woman might cause him to be attracted more to men than to women.

"I know this sounds odd, but it is possible and I believe it is fairly common. "


"For quotes from the Bible on the subject of multiple lives or reincarnation
of the soul, please read Soul Science on this website."
by Lawrence Wilson, MD


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you can read more of this Soul Science garbage from above link.
but hurry to buy DR. WALLACH'S PRODUCTS, to get a 30% discount-not

The scientests and scolars like the one you quote as truth in our time,
God says about them and how stupid there knowledge really means.

2 Timothy 3:7
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Romans 1:28
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave
them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

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Proverbs 14:7
Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest
not in him the lips of knowledge.

Proverbs 15:7
The lips of the wise disperse knowledge: but the heart of the foolish doeth not so.

Proverbs 1:29
For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the Lord:
Please keep your pagan reincarnation speculations to yourself. The bible speaks against it
 

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It does not help to judge them, since most of the time, our own issues are probably worse
Don't get me wrong, I agree with your post. But no sin is 'worse than the other one'.
Jesus tell us not to judge but help the sinner, but He doesn't tell us to tell ourselves that we are worst than the other sinner, neither.
I understand you want to be understanding, but don't put yourself in a lower scale.
 

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Please keep your pagan reincarnation speculations to yourself.
The bible speaks against it
I called his [Soul Science garbage] , where did I condone it?
you might need to reread the posts again.

This Guy Wilson was Originally Posted by Inquistor [his link not mine]
as proof that gay people are made by bad eating habits by there parents.

All I did was show what garbage this guy was putting out on first half of post.
second half of post was me condemining his ideas an lack of knowledge.
 

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There was no correction. You highlight your own hypocrisy, and that of those who pretend to stand for tolerance.

Such types are generally tolerant of everything and everybody ... who think just like they think! But if they disagree in the slightest with your views, there will be HELL to pay, ESPECIALLY if you practice any form of Christianity!
 
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What you did not like the first link I posted? ok

search: New Ontario law allows govt to seize children if parents oppose their ‘gender identity’

https://www.bing.com/search?q=New+O...s=n&sk=&cvid=aee40808c3da40a3aeb0cf03257cc1fc

No, I don't like Russian right wing links that lie. Here's a tip: When using Google don't type into the search engine the answer you want to hear, because all you will find or people making the same claims.

Cognitive bias much?

Regardless I read the actual bill, unlike you.
 

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No, I don't like Russian right wing links that lie. Here's a tip: When using Google don't type into the search engine the answer you want to hear, because all you will find or people making the same claims.

Cognitive bias much?

Regardless I read the actual bill, unlike you.

So over 40 news links with that heading is lying?


I read some of the bill, here it say

"The matters to be considered in determining the best interests of a child are changed.
The child’s views and wishes, given due weight in accordance with the child’s age and maturity,"


So the childs view can decide what sex it wants to be, the parent has no say so?


"the new Act includes the child’s race, ancestry, place of origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship,
family diversity, disability, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression."
 
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If you had a choice of 2 votes and you had to choose only one,
which one would you be voting on?

1. Ban gay marriage
2. Ban pornography
I think both hurt the God ordained family structure.
I will post some info on porn first, will get back to gay marriage.
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It is now estimated that one in 10 Americans is physiologically addicted to Internet porn.
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2016 Utah Declares Pornography ‘Public Health Crisis’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-public-health-crisis/?utm_term=.6fbebc464729

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"Decades of peer-reviewed research prove that pornography shapes people’s
views of intimacy, sexual violence and gender equality in a bad way."

The Utah House of Representatives unanimously passed a resolution declaring
pornography a “public health crisis.” This represents the first time in
United States history that a legislative body has passed such a measure.

While the resolution doesn’t restrict pornography in any way, it is meant to raise public
awareness of the devastating health impacts and societal harms of pornography addiction.

The official text of this resolution cites pornography as a root cause for “low self-esteem,”
“problematic sexual activity at younger ages,” “lessening desire in young men to marry,”
“infidelity,” “abuse of women and children,” “prostitution” and “sex trafficking.”
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In a Washington Post editorial, Gail Dines wrote:

Extensive scientific research reveals that exposure to and consumption of porn threaten the
social, emotional and physical health of individuals, families and communities, and highlights
the degree to which porn is a public health crisis rather than a private matter.

But just as the tobacco industry argued for decades that there was no proof of a connection
between smoking and lung cancer, so, too, has the porn industry, with the help of a well-oiled
public-relations machine, denied the existence of empirical research on the impact of its products.

One study, published in Sexual Addiction & Compulsivity, found that college men exposed to
mainstream pornography within the past 12 months were more likely to admit that they would
commit rape or sexual assault if they knew they wouldn’t get caught.

Lines 45 through 47 of Utah’s resolution state: “WHEREAS, pornography equates violence
towards women and children with sex and pain with pleasure, which increases the demand
for sex trafficking, prostitution, child sexual abuse images, and child pornography.”

Lines 58 through 61 of Utah’s resolution state: “WHEREAS, pornography use is linked to
lessening desire in young men to marry, dissatisfaction in marriage, and infidelity… this link
demonstrates that pornography has a detrimental effect on the family unit.”

Another study, conducted in 2012, found that college-aged women suffered diminished self-
esteem, relationship quality and sexual satisfaction in direct correlation with their partner’s
porn usage. A 2002 survey of America’s top divorce lawyers also revealed that over half
of all divorce cases in the nation involve a spouse hooked on pornography sites.

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This claim is backed up by the testimony of infamous rapist and serial killer Ted Bundy.
Just before his execution in 1989, Bundy placed much of the blame for his actions on his
pornography addiction:

In the beginning, it [pornography] fuels this kind of thought process. … Like an addiction,
you keep craving something which is harder, harder—something which gives you a greater
sense of excitement—until you reach the point where the pornography only goes so far.
You reach that jumping-off point where you begin to wonder if maybe actually doing it
would give you that which is beyond just reading about it or looking at it.
-

Sadly, this resolution by the Utah House of Representatives probably isn’t going to have any
effect on bringing this figure down. It is a rare example, however, of a state legislature at least
trying to fight against society’s moral decline."


What is your solution to what you see as a problem
"Like the drug industry, the pornography industry won’t be completely eradicated until public
demand for its vile product ceases. Until the day when indecent books no longer find a market
and pornographic films [online] can no longer draw an audience, the devastating health impacts
and societal harms of pornography will continue."


Utah Declares Pornography ‘Public Health Crisis’
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/...tah-declares-pornography-public-health-crisis
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U.S. Courts: Defenders of the Porn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Online_Protection_Act

A U.S. district judge has ruled against the 1998 Child Online Protection Act (copa),
designed to protect children from online pornography.

Judge Lowell Reed Jr. argued: “[P]erhaps we do the minors of this country harm
if First Amendment protections, which they will with age inherit fully, are chipped
away in the name of their protection.” In other words, if the ruling were upheld,
it might become marginally more difficult for adults to access pornographic content
and much more difficult for children (abcnews.com, March 22).

The plaintiffs against "copa" ranged from homosexual newspapers to so-called “sex
educators”who feel they should be able to disseminate explicit pictures for educational
purposes, and from artists who portray nude content to bookstores that may offer adult
-only content—in other words, exactly the sort of people and organizations many would
like not to influence their children with pornographic material.

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U.S. court has struck down other laws that protect children from pornography. In
1997, the Supreme Court declared the Communications Decency Act unconstitutional,
specifically stating that prohibiting “patently offensive display” violated the First
Amendment (cnetnews.com, June 26, 1997).

In 2002, the high court struck down the 1996 Child Pornography Prevention Act,
giving the okay to “virtual” child pornography (never mind that modern technology
allows simulations that would be indistinguishable from the real thing).

April 16, 2007 the U.S. Supreme Court struck down as unconstitutional major sections
of legislation passed by Congress in a 1996 Child Pornography Prevention Act.
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Exactly WHICH of these has more effect on heterosexuals?
First Amendment says people can watch porn, but they become a slave to it.
Sadly America is addicted to porn, this effects all Americans and family's in
its way,gay straight or other. a public health crisis rather than a private matter.

I heard "Greens" recently said that Porn is So Popular: It Hurts the Environment.
Pornography is one of the most destructive industries in the world, not because
of its impact on the environment, but because of its impact on the family.
 
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I think both hurt the God ordained family structure.
I will post some info on porn first, will get back to gay marriage.
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It is now estimated that one in 10 Americans is physiologically addicted to Internet porn.
-
2016 Utah Declares Pornography ‘Public Health Crisis’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-public-health-crisis/?utm_term=.6fbebc464729

--

"Decades of peer-reviewed research prove that pornography shapes people’s
views of intimacy, sexual violence and gender equality in a bad way."

The Utah House of Representatives unanimously passed a resolution declaring
pornography a “public health crisis.” This represents the first time in
United States history that a legislative body has passed such a measure.

While the resolution doesn’t restrict pornography in any way, it is meant to raise public
awareness of the devastating health impacts and societal harms of pornography addiction.

The official text of this resolution cites pornography as a root cause for “low self-esteem,”
“problematic sexual activity at younger ages,” “lessening desire in young men to marry,”
“infidelity,” “abuse of women and children,” “prostitution” and “sex trafficking.”
-

In a Washington Post editorial, Gail Dines wrote:

Extensive scientific research reveals that exposure to and consumption of porn threaten the
social, emotional and physical health of individuals, families and communities, and highlights
the degree to which porn is a public health crisis rather than a private matter.

But just as the tobacco industry argued for decades that there was no proof of a connection
between smoking and lung cancer, so, too, has the porn industry, with the help of a well-oiled
public-relations machine, denied the existence of empirical research on the impact of its products.

One study, published in Sexual Addiction & Compulsivity, found that college men exposed to
mainstream pornography within the past 12 months were more likely to admit that they would
commit rape or sexual assault if they knew they wouldn’t get caught.

Lines 45 through 47 of Utah’s resolution state: “WHEREAS, pornography equates violence
towards women and children with sex and pain with pleasure, which increases the demand
for sex trafficking, prostitution, child sexual abuse images, and child pornography.”

Lines 58 through 61 of Utah’s resolution state: “WHEREAS, pornography use is linked to
lessening desire in young men to marry, dissatisfaction in marriage, and infidelity… this link
demonstrates that pornography has a detrimental effect on the family unit.”

Another study, conducted in 2012, found that college-aged women suffered diminished self-
esteem, relationship quality and sexual satisfaction in direct correlation with their partner’s
porn usage. A 2002 survey of America’s top divorce lawyers also revealed that over half
of all divorce cases in the nation involve a spouse hooked on pornography sites.

-
This claim is backed up by the testimony of infamous rapist and serial killer Ted Bundy.
Just before his execution in 1989, Bundy placed much of the blame for his actions on his
pornography addiction:

In the beginning, it [pornography] fuels this kind of thought process. … Like an addiction,
you keep craving something which is harder, harder—something which gives you a greater
sense of excitement—until you reach the point where the pornography only goes so far.
You reach that jumping-off point where you begin to wonder if maybe actually doing it
would give you that which is beyond just reading about it or looking at it.
-

Sadly, this resolution by the Utah House of Representatives probably isn’t going to have any
effect on bringing this figure down. It is a rare example, however, of a state legislature at least
trying to fight against society’s moral decline."




"Like the drug industry, the pornography industry won’t be completely eradicated until public
demand for its vile product ceases. Until the day when indecent books no longer find a market
and pornographic films [online] can no longer draw an audience, the devastating health impacts
and societal harms of pornography will continue."


Utah Declares Pornography ‘Public Health Crisis’
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/...tah-declares-pornography-public-health-crisis
-
-
U.S. Courts: Defenders of the Porn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Online_Protection_Act

A U.S. district judge has ruled against the 1998 Child Online Protection Act (copa),
designed to protect children from online pornography.

Judge Lowell Reed Jr. argued: “[P]erhaps we do the minors of this country harm
if First Amendment protections, which they will with age inherit fully, are chipped
away in the name of their protection.” In other words, if the ruling were upheld,
it might become marginally more difficult for adults to access pornographic content
and much more difficult for children (abcnews.com, March 22).

The plaintiffs against "copa" ranged from homosexual newspapers to so-called “sex
educators”who feel they should be able to disseminate explicit pictures for educational
purposes, and from artists who portray nude content to bookstores that may offer adult
-only content—in other words, exactly the sort of people and organizations many would
like not to influence their children with pornographic material.

--
U.S. court has struck down other laws that protect children from pornography. In
1997, the Supreme Court declared the Communications Decency Act unconstitutional,
specifically stating that prohibiting “patently offensive display” violated the First
Amendment (cnetnews.com, June 26, 1997).

In 2002, the high court struck down the 1996 Child Pornography Prevention Act,
giving the okay to “virtual” child pornography (never mind that modern technology
allows simulations that would be indistinguishable from the real thing).

April 16, 2007 the U.S. Supreme Court struck down as unconstitutional major sections
of legislation passed by Congress in a 1996 Child Pornography Prevention Act.
--



First Amendment says people can watch porn, but they become a slave to it.
Sadly America is addicted to porn, this effects all Americans and family's in
its way,gay straight or other. a public health crisis rather than a private matter.

I heard "Greens" recently said that Porn is So Popular: It Hurts the Environment.
Pornography is one of the most destructive industries in the world, not because
of its impact on the environment, but because of its impact on the family.
Pornhub, an internet pornographic site, says Utah has the highest rate of visiters to it's site.

What's up with mormons?
 

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Pornhub, an internet pornographic site, says Utah has the highest rate of visiters to it's site.

What's up with mormons?
No idea, Sorry I do not go to pornhub site, I do not live in Utah, :)
I am not a mormon, or have done or want to do research on mormons.
 

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No idea, Sorry I do not go to pornhub site, I do not live in Utah, :)
I am not a mormon, or have done or want to do research on mormons.
I have. My exwife is taking my kids to Utah. I'd like to march in the style of Sherman on the place.
 

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What are their actions? Are they going about it in a loving way?
What is your solution to what you see as a problem
1 Corinthians 6:18 says we are to flee fornication. Do we?

Our people, who say they are Christian, hardly even talk about pornography any-
more because they lost that war years ago, and they know it. It has taken over!

It’s in our entertainment—even our mainstream television, movies, music videos,
magazines and just about everything else. And we let it go on—we must have
“freedom of speech.” What an appalling deceit that is! It has nothing to do with
freedom! It’s all about slavery! Sex addiction is slavery! You can see in the worst
cases what it’s doing to us! Yet we still refuse to obey God.

This is a gigantic sin we are committing, yet we have the gall to say
we’re a Christian nation, and to talk about how religious and good we are.

God would call America a “hypocritical nation” We lost our trust in God as a nation.

Our society has renounced God’s standards and laws. It mocks His morality and
flouts His definitions of right and wrong. God condemns fornication—we embrace it.
He condemns adultery—we accept it. He commands that sex be confined to within
marriage—society sneers.

Jesus Christ said merely looking on a woman lustfully is committing adultery in the
heart (Matthew 5:28). But we live in a pornographic playground and celebrate it.

Until suddenly, we decide we don’t like some of the effects.

And that is exactly what we’re seeing: the effects—the inevitable effects—of
the choices we have made. All the “toxic masculinity” ugliness we see is a result
of pushing God aside and doing what seems right in our own eyes.

“Toxic masculinity” is now so big, it even has its own Wikipedia page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic...ail&utm_term=0_a399ec29cc-e6e98475e2-23833117
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Many genuinely now believe traditional masculinity is destroying our nations.
But this World [our nation]Needs More Godly Masculinity, Not Less
https://www.thetrumpet.com/blogs/11...ail&utm_term=0_a399ec29cc-183bc8c0d8-23792989

Today there are [various programs], including university courses, designed
to help men conquer “toxic masculinity.” Teachers, professors and
Rethink Masculinity | Collective Action for Safe Spaces

[intellectuals] are attacking anything that promotes traditional masculinity,
Professor warns of toxic masculinity themes in Disney's 'Beauty and the Beast'

including classic literature and Disney movies. Across the planet, famous
males are setting the example in purging themselves of characteristics
associated with conventional masculinity.

There’s no doubt about it, traditional masculinity—already in retreat from
decades of being undermined and assailed—is quickly being eradicated!

Todays Traditional masculinity, for all its merits, is not biblical masculinity.


So what exactly is biblical masculinity? Ultimately, being masculine means using
the power of God to conquer selfish human nature, to submit to God’s will, and
to fulfill the responsibilities that come with being a man.

Being male, and particularly a husband and father, comes with various
responsibilities. But fundamentally, a man’s job is to love and serve.
God first, then family, and then fellow man.

Do you look at this issue the way God does? He wants to free
this world from its enslavement to such depravity.

Soon Jesus Christ will return in power and put a stop to these sins forever.
He will rule, and He will show us how to have the happiness and joy we should be
enjoying today—by keeping His law of love. You can do that individually today,
if you are willing.
 

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I made a simple polite request that you pick this up after Christmas is over--
So that everyone's private lifestyles are not in faces and living rooms over the holidays.
what part of "can you pick this up after the New Year," do you not understand?

Since you don't want to talk about Christmas, or be friendly--

God's warning for all of us, regardless of the type of rebellion:
The Angels of the Son of Man, warned they were going to destroy the cities that had rejected God's ways:
Abraham pleaded for mercy:

And the Lord said, "Then for the sake of the ten [reverent/peaceful], I will not destroy it."
(Genesis 18:32)
"Quick, get out of the city! The Lord is going to destroy it." (Prophet Lot to his family)
"But the young men thought he was only joking."

The next morning, "He [Abraham] looked out across the plain to [the cities there] and saw columns of smoke and fumes, as from a furnace, rising from the cities..." (Genesis 19:27)

"you've been warned," (message to Herald December, 2017)
"an earthquake will occur in Canada to confirm my witness." (Herald in this forum--December, 2017)
An earthquake occurred near Whitehorse, Canada on the Eagle Plains, four days ago on December 22nd, the day Canada withheld it's vote on Jerusalem.
--Herald
 
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Why are people so worked up over being happy, lighthearted, and carefree?
 

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The wishful thinkers are old generation traditionalists. But they are
becoming a minority, just as such things that are normalised of an age in life, are.

Life/God had to push them out, because if God didn't overrule the generation
of 'this is the way it is' and then in 50 years want it to still be the way it 'was',
we would still have slavery, and many other cruel things which have been
wiped out by progress and change, good triumphing.
When I grew-up, then gays where called queers.
now my view is called queer and A hate crime,
and people call this progress and freedom.

Jeremiah 10:23 O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself:
it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

The Bible says there is no limit to the extent of evil in a man’s mind (Jer. 17:9).
The bible also says that evil, it shall wax worse and worse.


You might like to think that slavery is a thing of the past, but in fact in the 21st
century the opposite is true. There are over 40 million people across the world
caught up in the modern-day slave trade, according to a new report.

And it occurs right under our noses, in every corner of the globe.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/10/the-shocking-numbers-behind-the-modern-slave-trade/

Care to quess how many [sex slaves] there is currently, in the good ol U.S. of A?
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Our civil rights leaders built upon the Abolition of Slavery Act to liberate the
free world from the festering moral scab of trading in human beings


Far from upholding the Constitution today, many leaders in the black community see
America’s foundational law as fundamentally racist. And instead of urging Americans
to unite as one so that we might “flourish together,” many black leaders are actively
inciting hatred and division.
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What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
God destroyed them in the wilderness, afterward God did not "change" His ways.

Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone
and fire from the Lord out of heaven;

2 Peter 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them
with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

These people have issues with Love.
Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near mewith their mouth,
and
with theirlips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear
toward
me is taught by the precept of men:

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Did we do away with slavery? Now America is so "inslaved to all kinds of sin".
Like the Sin of Idolatry- It’s more common than you may think.
 
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