good question and one I don't believe can be answered until it happens, similar to red algae bloom being a sign of a third of the oceans will turn red.
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You May Not Want to be Taken/Raptured
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good question and one I don't believe can be answered until it happens, similar to red algae bloom being a sign of a third of the oceans will turn red.
One third of of the trees and grass will eventually be burned due to global warming caused primarily by industry before the opening of the bottomless pit. Look at fire season in California; it is now all year long, whereas it used to be about 4 months long, 30 years ago. Australia I hear also has increased fire season.
One third of the earth's oceans turning into algae swamps due to fertilizer runoff and other pollutants are the full eventual result prior to the opening of the bottomless pit.
Likewise, one third of earth fresh water systems will eventually be polluted due to fracking operations and other pollutants before the opening of the bottomless pit.
Likewise, one third of the sun, moon, and stars being blotted out from the sky, and one third of the day not lit due to atmospheric pollutants from industry will eventually result prior to the opening of the bottomless pit.
By the way, there are already many industrial cities throughout the world, where you often can not see the heavens due to atmospheric pollution. Mexico city, Beiging, New Delhi.
As I previously stated; we are now all illumined as to the causes, and the warnings/soundings have been issued.
And as we can see from the news media, mankind's govenments mostly disregard these warning signs today, but not tommorrow when the signs in the heavens appear (Luke 21:25-26). Heading out now, back later.
Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
Ezek 5:12, "A third of thee shall die with the pestilence, and with famine shall they be consumed in the midst of thee: and a third part shall fall by the sword round about thee; and I will scatter a third part onto all the winds, and I will draw out a sword after them."
Spoken about the dest of Jeru Ezek 5:5, in 70 ad.
Well I'm going to have to disagree about global warming is a sign that revelations was talking about, it is easy to look at these things and assume it is.,
similar to a false prophet etc. the false prophet will get some to believe, on the outside they can be easily viewed as the real deal but on the inside Ravenous wolves.
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Oh yeah, remove the pretrib rapture verses and pooof! postrib rapture "lives".
There is not a single postrib rapture verse in the bible . NONE
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There is no gathering at the second coming.
To say wicked are gathered (half of some group,one taken,one left) would mean that they are taken alive to some location,and lets just guess where,since there is nowhere to take these alive people to.
It is the rapture "BEFORE THE FLOOD" !!!!!
You completely misplace the timing. It says BEFORE THE FLOOD.
Under your own template,you are saying he comes BEFORE THE TRIBULATION (FLOOD).
So,you have a pretrib gathering of a group BEFORE THE GT.
That verse you use in mat 24 is in fact Mat 25;
[FONT="]5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.[/FONT]
[FONT="]6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.[/FONT]
[FONT="]7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.[/FONT]
[FONT="]8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.[/FONT]
[FONT="]9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.[/FONT]
[FONT="]10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.[/FONT]
[FONT="]11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.[/FONT]
[FONT="]12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.[/FONT]
[FONT="]13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
There you go,half of a group taken. Half the body of Christ. they that were ready went
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Nope,it says "before the flood"
The ONLY gathering before the tribulation is the rapture.
In order for the "one taken" to be at armageddon you would need a gathering AFTER THE FLOOD.
There is no gathering after the tribulation. Mat 24 is a preflood dynamic.
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How about the Keys of the Kingdom?
the pretrib rapture folly has nuthin' to do with the kingdom
You are correct that Ezek 5:12 was speaking of what would befall Jerusalem. It is about the Chaldeans under Nebuchadnezzar in the sixth century BC.
If you were equating Ezek 5:12 with the 70 AD destruction of Jerusalem, you would then fall about 2/3 of the populace off, as over 90% were killed.
Willie-T "Most of you seem to have all the answers I don't have. So, which of you can tell me how all those "thirds" is going to work/? Is every third person going to drop dead? Or will it be a certain third of the earth? How about the rivers going bad? Will the bad stuff skip every two rivers, or will it be that every single river in a particular section goes bad? None of the others affected?
And, more importantly, how selective are these stars going to be when they hit the earth? Are we to just hope the have good aim?
Inquisitive minds want to know."
The answer I gave shows what is happening today throughout the world. The fires in California, and Australia, and other parts of the world are increasing. They still do not account for one third of all trees and grass, but when they do, it will be time for the opening of the bottomless pit.
Likewise, the other environmental issues in Revelation 8 are also increasing, and when they reach one third of all, it will then be time for the opening of the bottomless pit.
As for the stars you are referring to which hit the earth, these are located in Daniel 8:10, which the little horn casts to the ground and stomps upon. The little horn (aka the Antichrist) casts truth to the ground, and thus casts true illumination (Gods angels) to the ground. These stars in Daniel 8:10, are also the stars in Revelation 12:4, which the dragon casts the earth.
The stars in Revelation 8:12, however, are part of the heavenly bodies, the sun, and moon, they are associated with.
Daniel 8:10 [FONT="]And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
[/FONT]Revelation 12:4 [FONT="]And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
[/FONT]Revelation 8:12 [FONT="]And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.[/FONT]
Global warming is just one effect from all the damage the works of man are producing. Isaiah 24 pretty much describes the end results from all the works of man through industry, which continues to devour the earth.
Isaiah 24:6 [FONT="]Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.[/FONT]
Matthew 24 refers to the fall of Jerusalem, which ovcurrred in 70 a.d. Jesus told his apostles that all would happen during their own generation, their age, which it did. If it was referring to the end of the world, why on earth would they flee to the maintains or to their rooftops? Use your head.